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You're saying Prado should have risked a career ending injury for 5th? When he could have stepped back to re-group and go for the championship the next season?
Telling the truth about his issues with the bike seems to be the honorable way to answer the questions.
He obviously knew it would cause some strife with his employer and lying about it would have been the easy way out. Could have easily said he had Epstein Bar Virus or lingering issues from his shoulder injury.
You think he just step backed to regroup when he tried to not qualify for a race? Come on man. I don’t know why you and the other guy boot lick for Prado so bad.
He said he won 11 of 17 races, so I have to agree.
Maybe Stew's bike wasn't as bad as Prado's?
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I'm just pointing out possible motivations for the trainwreck we witnessed. Seems like those motivations are reasonable otherwise your could critique my points rather than insulting me.
Could be, but he never quit trying which is where the comparison ends.
MC tried his best, got thrown off a bunch (resulting in a dislocated hip), and retired honorably. I don't think he said much until later, but I could be off base.
Jorge didn't even try.....huge difference.
at this point the only drama that’s continuing is in this thread
But somehow Prado still had a better MX series overall?
Stewart was 12th in 2012 to Prado's 6th this year.
Seems likely that using effort to compensate for a poor bike increases the risk of crashes. Maybe Prado values his health more than his employer's reputation?
Who among you is faster than Prado? Who among you has won at least one regional title? I learned my lesson when I was young on the side of the track when I made fun of someone and criticized them. I got a slap on the head and a message to be faster and then open your mouth
It won't be too long and this thread will have continued longer than Prado rode a Kawasaki.
Why would race results determine your value as a person? Those seem like 2 different things.
One of the takeaways from there WTS is every dominant racer had a stable upbringing up to their early years as pro.
Also 97 with honda and had choice words for Suzuki at the time even though that was a last minute deal.
I dont like what he said for the simple fact he knows there's more to the story then most of us are getting.
TK even said on gypsy and swap he has to watch what he says to Prado about ways to fix the bike to be more to his liking because the parts that would do it that on the GP kx450 of febrev can't be used here. Said it not once but twice. So that says kawi has the capability to make it more in the way he wants it but can't.
Some bikes just don't work for some guys. Honda with chase and roczen. You can change a metric shit ton of things about these bike at that level but the chassis has a DNA that you can't change without a new frame. You can build 3 more or less identical frames but have slight difference in just a spar or in just the head tubes on all three and all 3 will be very different. Tried to explain that to matthes when he was ranting about how ktm wouldn't help chase because you could change everything at Honda to make it feel how ever you want and thats just not how chassis work.
One thing for sure ...
He will have to come out and make a statement, mediocre subpar rides won't do.
If he does a repeat, it's back to Europe.
Be interesting to see how Tomac, Anderson and sexton do.
Do they kill it or struggle?
Jan 10th, A1.
Can't get here soon enough.
I've heard Ping throw that idea around, but it seems like he's trying to rationalize his own feelings. If he looked outside of MX he would see plentiful counter-examples in other sports.
Why would he be mislead? There is a correlation between stability and wealth, and motocross is more expensive than other sports. You need money to support the talent to the next level.
Money is the crucial variable, stability not so much.
You think him riding around with 1 hand or qualifying out of the top 40 was him riding on the edge of injury? Carson brown would have waxed him on an 85. If that was as fast as he could have gone without injury, it probably would have been wise to keep both hands on the bars and stand up... Come on man, the bike does not make that kind of a difference. I can setup any bike for myself with no experience or team to be able to ride at 95%... He didn't try. He gave up. He's spoiled. He is arrogant. He passes blame to everyone else but him. Not a fan of that type of human. If you want to be a fan, you are welcome too. Just trying to point out that most people here that are no longer fans of his are not complaining about his riding, they have an issue with his character.
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Dude, stop trying to find other excuses for his actions. The reasons are right in front of you. Maybe he is just a crybaby/ quitter/ 14 yr old. He can still be an excellent MX rider. Those things are mutually exclusive of each other.
You just don't get why people are no longer fans hey? I wouldn't care if he got 2nd in the championship. That was pathetic.
I'm not a George fan, I thought he was over hyped and wouldn't be a top 5 guy.
It's hilarious to me that people listen to a rider interview and then decide, nope, he's full of shit, I know the real story. Then get worked up when information and reasoning contradict the story they fabricated in their own mind.
Maybe Prado will send you a nice apology letter for the emotional distress he caused to you this year.
Go cry in a pillow club somewhere. We're talking about racing here. If people started ranking people on the star line, why would there be racing at all? I'd give the trophy to the most normal person right away.
I was just thinking that the title of this thread should be “vital Prado drama continues”… but I’m sure a few more pages will change sone minds.
So you can only criticize people's actions on the track for people that are not as fast as you? Is that what you're saying?
Stewart only raced 6 MX races in 2012, and he won 2 of them. But it was on a Suzuki not the Yamaha he hated. It seems like we've reached the point in the conversation where people have forgotten what it is they're even arguing about (I'm talking about you).
Matthes said that yamaha is the bike of the year
Sorry your dad beat you, don’t take it out on everyone.
Are you serious? don't gaslight me. I saw what he did, and I have heard a bunch of statements from a number of people that explain the situation pretty well. Well, good enough for me (and others with a mild level of intelligence) to connect the dots. This is a case of he said, she said, she said, she said, she said, etc. At some point you have to look at the probability of 1 person being right or a hundred people being wrong. I am sorry you still can't figure it out. Just because you want to ignore all of the information out there and put your tinfoil hat on doesn't mean that others are the ones being ignorant and jumping to conclusions. All you are doing is proving that you are incredibly stupid.
By the way, you didn't answer my question. Was he trying as hard or going as fast as he could without risking injury with one hand on the bars or not?
Good one dipshit. I bet you wouldn't talk to me like that in person. You are a 14 y/o girl, just like Jorge. He isn't causing me any emotional distress, you are by not understanding what is going on and talking to me and others like we are the ones who don't get what your noble mind is laying down. You keep bringing up his results. "I actually thought he wasn't going to be a top 5 guy". Who cares? He acted like a child, just like you are. I can't be a fan of that.
I don't have any dislike for Jorge. I'm just not a fan of his character. You are falling into that category as well. Believe me, I won't let it bother me. Just on here saying what comes to my mind and my observations. Just like everyone else.
Cheers.
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