Prado drama continuing?

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Kawi has no leverage. Prado could always stay, collect a ton of money, and ride around in 20th. They don’t want that. 

You couldn't be more wrong.  Kawasaki has the leverage, it is a matter of how far they want to dig in their heels.  This is a damned if you do , damned if you don't situation.  Each party needs to be very careful for future implications.

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couldnt his contract be sold to another team ? or brand ? 

im just guessing  that could be a last minute option at least get some return for their investment in JP 

 

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couldnt his contract be sold to another team ? or brand ? im just guessing  that could be a last minute option at least get some return...

couldnt his contract be sold to another team ? or brand ? 

im just guessing  that could be a last minute option at least get some return for their investment in JP 

 

That's basically what the buyout is, rumors are the Prado wanted KTM/Red Bull to pay the fee and they said no

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Here's the deal. This has nothing to do with what's best for Monster or Kawi. If that was the test, they would've released him already. This...

Here's the deal. This has nothing to do with what's best for Monster or Kawi. If that was the test, they would've released him already. This has much more to do with someone at Monster put their name and reputation on the line to advocate for Jorge as the next big thing, and now they are embarrassed because their big bet was a dud. 

Like I said earlier, if this is being viewed strictly as a business decision, it's crystal clear they need to cut ties with him and focus on things they can do to show everyone it had nothing to do with the bike. Focus on business for 2026. 

But it isn't. It's about someone's career. Someone had to sell this decision and now their career has this blemish on it. You would be surprised how often, even in big companies, big money decisions are made based on gut feel or emotions (positive and negative) rather than data and logic. 

Rosso391 wrote:
I get what you are saying. But hear me out. The "data" was absolutely there. He's a 2x & back to back MXGP champ. Gets signed...

I get what you are saying. But hear me out. The "data" was absolutely there. He's a 2x & back to back MXGP champ. Gets signed for a large contract. Doesn't like the bike, team and tracks and clearly faster competition. He gets embarrassed by the Americans and then he blames the bike more. Then he obviously doesn't even try to qualify at Budds Creek. Prado is a head case and still thinks he has any leverage after riding and acting like he did all year. Now Kawi and Monster are going to make it a living hell for him. Prado is trying to aim Vengeance for not making the Kawi a KTM. But Kawi is making it a Reckoning on Prado for his actions.

The only thing you said that's truly verifiable data is this part : "He's a 2x & back to back MXGP champ. Gets signed for a large contract. Doesn't like the bike" 

The rest is conjecture and irrelevant. 

My point is, even if Prado flat out just pulled over on the first lap, Monster and Kawi are better off from an image and overall value to the brand standpoint not to get bogged down in a "reckoning". That's it. Doesn't matter who did what, that's in the past. 

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TriRacer27 wrote:
Here's the deal. This has nothing to do with what's best for Monster or Kawi. If that was the test, they would've released him already. This...

Here's the deal. This has nothing to do with what's best for Monster or Kawi. If that was the test, they would've released him already. This has much more to do with someone at Monster put their name and reputation on the line to advocate for Jorge as the next big thing, and now they are embarrassed because their big bet was a dud. 

Like I said earlier, if this is being viewed strictly as a business decision, it's crystal clear they need to cut ties with him and focus on things they can do to show everyone it had nothing to do with the bike. Focus on business for 2026. 

But it isn't. It's about someone's career. Someone had to sell this decision and now their career has this blemish on it. You would be surprised how often, even in big companies, big money decisions are made based on gut feel or emotions (positive and negative) rather than data and logic. 

Rosso391 wrote:
I get what you are saying. But hear me out. The "data" was absolutely there. He's a 2x & back to back MXGP champ. Gets signed...

I get what you are saying. But hear me out. The "data" was absolutely there. He's a 2x & back to back MXGP champ. Gets signed for a large contract. Doesn't like the bike, team and tracks and clearly faster competition. He gets embarrassed by the Americans and then he blames the bike more. Then he obviously doesn't even try to qualify at Budds Creek. Prado is a head case and still thinks he has any leverage after riding and acting like he did all year. Now Kawi and Monster are going to make it a living hell for him. Prado is trying to aim Vengeance for not making the Kawi a KTM. But Kawi is making it a Reckoning on Prado for his actions.

TriRacer27 wrote:
The only thing you said that's truly verifiable data is this part : "He's a 2x & back to back MXGP champ. Gets signed for a...

The only thing you said that's truly verifiable data is this part : "He's a 2x & back to back MXGP champ. Gets signed for a large contract. Doesn't like the bike" 

The rest is conjecture and irrelevant. 

My point is, even if Prado flat out just pulled over on the first lap, Monster and Kawi are better off from an image and overall value to the brand standpoint not to get bogged down in a "reckoning". That's it. Doesn't matter who did what, that's in the past. 

If it was me and I could afford it, I’d make him pay for what he did to my company if I was them.  I’m pretty confident that Chase (like Febvre) will have no problem putting that bike on the box.  He’s not in Europe anymore.  Quitters don’t win here in the US.  

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i never understood why he didn't just fake an injury instead of rolling around in 43rd place. He could have "pulled a hammy" and bailed on a few rounds and would have at least some level of plausible deniability. one of the strangest chapters...

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Rosso391 wrote:
I get what you are saying. But hear me out. The "data" was absolutely there. He's a 2x & back to back MXGP champ. Gets signed...

I get what you are saying. But hear me out. The "data" was absolutely there. He's a 2x & back to back MXGP champ. Gets signed for a large contract. Doesn't like the bike, team and tracks and clearly faster competition. He gets embarrassed by the Americans and then he blames the bike more. Then he obviously doesn't even try to qualify at Budds Creek. Prado is a head case and still thinks he has any leverage after riding and acting like he did all year. Now Kawi and Monster are going to make it a living hell for him. Prado is trying to aim Vengeance for not making the Kawi a KTM. But Kawi is making it a Reckoning on Prado for his actions.

TriRacer27 wrote:
The only thing you said that's truly verifiable data is this part : "He's a 2x & back to back MXGP champ. Gets signed for a...

The only thing you said that's truly verifiable data is this part : "He's a 2x & back to back MXGP champ. Gets signed for a large contract. Doesn't like the bike" 

The rest is conjecture and irrelevant. 

My point is, even if Prado flat out just pulled over on the first lap, Monster and Kawi are better off from an image and overall value to the brand standpoint not to get bogged down in a "reckoning". That's it. Doesn't matter who did what, that's in the past. 

If it was me and I could afford it, I’d make him pay for what he did to my company if I was them.  I’m pretty...

If it was me and I could afford it, I’d make him pay for what he did to my company if I was them.  I’m pretty confident that Chase (like Febvre) will have no problem putting that bike on the box.  He’s not in Europe anymore.  Quitters don’t win here in the US.  

Anderson already put the bike on the box, I think he got two second places last year and a bunch of 3rds in 24 and 25. So while I'm not disagreeing with you, it has already been proven that the current platform is capable of podiums. Anderson too for that matter. They might wasn't to swallow some pride and reconsider hiring Jason back IMO.

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i never understood why he didn't just fake an injury instead of rolling around in 43rd place. He could have "pulled a hammy" and bailed on...

i never understood why he didn't just fake an injury instead of rolling around in 43rd place. He could have "pulled a hammy" and bailed on a few rounds and would have at least some level of plausible deniability. one of the strangest chapters...

maybe he had an injury clause in the contract?

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i never understood why he didn't just fake an injury instead of rolling around in 43rd place. He could have "pulled a hammy" and bailed on...

i never understood why he didn't just fake an injury instead of rolling around in 43rd place. He could have "pulled a hammy" and bailed on a few rounds and would have at least some level of plausible deniability. one of the strangest chapters...

3strokemx wrote:

maybe he had an injury clause in the contract?

That new podcast with Dean Wilson, Tommy Searle, and Billy Bolt is pretty interesting. That's one of the topics they discuss.

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TriRacer27 wrote:
The only thing you said that's truly verifiable data is this part : "He's a 2x & back to back MXGP champ. Gets signed for a...

The only thing you said that's truly verifiable data is this part : "He's a 2x & back to back MXGP champ. Gets signed for a large contract. Doesn't like the bike" 

The rest is conjecture and irrelevant. 

My point is, even if Prado flat out just pulled over on the first lap, Monster and Kawi are better off from an image and overall value to the brand standpoint not to get bogged down in a "reckoning". That's it. Doesn't matter who did what, that's in the past. 

If it was me and I could afford it, I’d make him pay for what he did to my company if I was them.  I’m pretty...

If it was me and I could afford it, I’d make him pay for what he did to my company if I was them.  I’m pretty confident that Chase (like Febvre) will have no problem putting that bike on the box.  He’s not in Europe anymore.  Quitters don’t win here in the US.  

mxaniac wrote:
Anderson already put the bike on the box, I think he got two second places last year and a bunch of 3rds in 24 and 25...

Anderson already put the bike on the box, I think he got two second places last year and a bunch of 3rds in 24 and 25. So while I'm not disagreeing with you, it has already been proven that the current platform is capable of podiums. Anderson too for that matter. They might wasn't to swallow some pride and reconsider hiring Jason back IMO.

He’s already signed on yellow 

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If it was me and I could afford it, I’d make him pay for what he did to my company if I was them.  I’m pretty...

If it was me and I could afford it, I’d make him pay for what he did to my company if I was them.  I’m pretty confident that Chase (like Febvre) will have no problem putting that bike on the box.  He’s not in Europe anymore.  Quitters don’t win here in the US.  

mxaniac wrote:
Anderson already put the bike on the box, I think he got two second places last year and a bunch of 3rds in 24 and 25...

Anderson already put the bike on the box, I think he got two second places last year and a bunch of 3rds in 24 and 25. So while I'm not disagreeing with you, it has already been proven that the current platform is capable of podiums. Anderson too for that matter. They might wasn't to swallow some pride and reconsider hiring Jason back IMO.

Zycki11 wrote:

He’s already signed on yellow 

I knew that was rumored, is it official now?

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I don't really watch or keep up with mxgp, but was this guy really a champion? I seen this guy at high point this year and at best he might have looked like a mid pack B rider. Just hard to believe he was a world champ ever.

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Kawi has no leverage. Prado could always stay, collect a ton of money, and ride around in 20th. They don’t want that. 

JBlain619 wrote:
You couldn't be more wrong.  Kawasaki has the leverage, it is a matter of how far they want to dig in their heels.  This is a...

You couldn't be more wrong.  Kawasaki has the leverage, it is a matter of how far they want to dig in their heels.  This is a damned if you do , damned if you don't situation.  Each party needs to be very careful for future implications.

This.  The downside risk of Kawi going hard at Prado is that riders in the future will be much more wary of signing with them for fear of a spiteful reprisal if things don’t work out.

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Serious issues for sure! It was a total lack of effort on Prado's part, then throwing the whole team under the bus.  He flat out quit, and...

Serious issues for sure! 

It was a total lack of effort on Prado's part, then throwing the whole team under the bus.  He flat out quit, and took no personal resposibility at all. Something I've never seen before in pro mx. 

He pretty much stole the money he got from Kawi and Monster. No wonder KTM is reluctant to pay him a salary, and make it bonus based.

Suggesting he 'stole' the money is probably the most ridiculous thing I've read in this thread. Imagine if every employee who arrived at work on Monday...
Suggesting he 'stole' the money is probably the most ridiculous thing I've read in this thread. Imagine if every employee who arrived at work on Monday morning with an aching body and dehydrated head because of their riding antics over the weekend were accused of 'stealing' their salary for the day. We've all done it- whether it be a hangover, a beat up body from Moto, or other personal issues, we've all underperformed at work for some reason & still claimed our pay. Let's keep things in perspective and not say he stole anything.
Indy mxer wrote:

I wouldn't call what Prado did "under performing". That's sugarcoating it. He flat out quit. Therefore he wasn't earning his money, 

INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN ENGLISH
‘To quit’ - stop or discontinue (an action or activity).

He didn’t actually quit though did he. 
He rode the bike every race. 

He certainly underperformed. 

Sharpen up your understanding of the English language and post sensibly. Please. Thankyou.
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TriRacer27 wrote:
Here's the deal. This has nothing to do with what's best for Monster or Kawi. If that was the test, they would've released him already. This...

Here's the deal. This has nothing to do with what's best for Monster or Kawi. If that was the test, they would've released him already. This has much more to do with someone at Monster put their name and reputation on the line to advocate for Jorge as the next big thing, and now they are embarrassed because their big bet was a dud. 

Like I said earlier, if this is being viewed strictly as a business decision, it's crystal clear they need to cut ties with him and focus on things they can do to show everyone it had nothing to do with the bike. Focus on business for 2026. 

But it isn't. It's about someone's career. Someone had to sell this decision and now their career has this blemish on it. You would be surprised how often, even in big companies, big money decisions are made based on gut feel or emotions (positive and negative) rather than data and logic. 

Rosso391 wrote:
I get what you are saying. But hear me out. The "data" was absolutely there. He's a 2x & back to back MXGP champ. Gets signed...

I get what you are saying. But hear me out. The "data" was absolutely there. He's a 2x & back to back MXGP champ. Gets signed for a large contract. Doesn't like the bike, team and tracks and clearly faster competition. He gets embarrassed by the Americans and then he blames the bike more. Then he obviously doesn't even try to qualify at Budds Creek. Prado is a head case and still thinks he has any leverage after riding and acting like he did all year. Now Kawi and Monster are going to make it a living hell for him. Prado is trying to aim Vengeance for not making the Kawi a KTM. But Kawi is making it a Reckoning on Prado for his actions.

TriRacer27 wrote:
The only thing you said that's truly verifiable data is this part : "He's a 2x & back to back MXGP champ. Gets signed for a...

The only thing you said that's truly verifiable data is this part : "He's a 2x & back to back MXGP champ. Gets signed for a large contract. Doesn't like the bike" 

The rest is conjecture and irrelevant. 

My point is, even if Prado flat out just pulled over on the first lap, Monster and Kawi are better off from an image and overall value to the brand standpoint not to get bogged down in a "reckoning". That's it. Doesn't matter who did what, that's in the past. 

If they litigate, they can drag it out for years. Add in a non-disclosure agreement, and mitigate the image issue. Stay out of court!

 

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Suggesting he 'stole' the money is probably the most ridiculous thing I've read in this thread. Imagine if every employee who arrived at work on Monday...
Suggesting he 'stole' the money is probably the most ridiculous thing I've read in this thread. Imagine if every employee who arrived at work on Monday morning with an aching body and dehydrated head because of their riding antics over the weekend were accused of 'stealing' their salary for the day. We've all done it- whether it be a hangover, a beat up body from Moto, or other personal issues, we've all underperformed at work for some reason & still claimed our pay. Let's keep things in perspective and not say he stole anything.
Indy mxer wrote:

I wouldn't call what Prado did "under performing". That's sugarcoating it. He flat out quit. Therefore he wasn't earning his money, 

INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN ENGLISH‘To quit’ - stop or discontinue (an action or activity).He didn’t actually quit though did he. He rode the bike every race. He certainly underperformed. Sharpen...
INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN ENGLISH
‘To quit’ - stop or discontinue (an action or activity).

He didn’t actually quit though did he. 
He rode the bike every race. 

He certainly underperformed. 

Sharpen up your understanding of the English language and post sensibly. Please. Thankyou.

If intentionally trying to not qualify and riding around in 18th with one hand of his handlebars isn't the definition of quitting to you then I don't know. Just because his bike was still moving forward lol

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mxaniac wrote:
Anderson already put the bike on the box, I think he got two second places last year and a bunch of 3rds in 24 and 25...

Anderson already put the bike on the box, I think he got two second places last year and a bunch of 3rds in 24 and 25. So while I'm not disagreeing with you, it has already been proven that the current platform is capable of podiums. Anderson too for that matter. They might wasn't to swallow some pride and reconsider hiring Jason back IMO.

Zycki11 wrote:

He’s already signed on yellow 

mxaniac wrote:

I knew that was rumored, is it official now?

Unofficially "official" until November. It is my understanding that contracts end in October which then frees up the NDA and announcements to follow. This could have changed due to SMX recently, but overall thats how it generally goes.  Tomac, Sexton, Anderson will all be within a weeks time on announcements. 

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To be honest, riding a lap around a national track with one hand actually sound pretty impressive to me.

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Would he be riding a Ktm atm? Or would he be just at a standstill waiting to sort this out? 

I feel he is the type of guy who knows he has a lot to prove and wants to show everyone the bike was the issue not him. I can’t imagine he would be to happy just hanging around waiting to get back into riding knowing all of his competitors have raced SMX and are either riding MXON, training for off season races or riding their new bikes for 2026. 

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To be honest, riding a lap around a national track with one hand actually sound pretty impressive to me.

And finishing in 6th overall in the championship on top of that!

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Indy mxer wrote:

I wouldn't call what Prado did "under performing". That's sugarcoating it. He flat out quit. Therefore he wasn't earning his money, 

INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN ENGLISH‘To quit’ - stop or discontinue (an action or activity).He didn’t actually quit though did he. He rode the bike every race. He certainly underperformed. Sharpen...
INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN ENGLISH
‘To quit’ - stop or discontinue (an action or activity).

He didn’t actually quit though did he. 
He rode the bike every race. 

He certainly underperformed. 

Sharpen up your understanding of the English language and post sensibly. Please. Thankyou.
Mavetism wrote:
If intentionally trying to not qualify and riding around in 18th with one hand of his handlebars isn't the definition of quitting to you then I...

If intentionally trying to not qualify and riding around in 18th with one hand of his handlebars isn't the definition of quitting to you then I don't know. Just because his bike was still moving forward lol

This is only an argument about using correct wording. 
I suppose you could say “he quit riding to the best of his ability”

Which is different to just saying “he quit “

Anyway.. “stole”… I guess you think he committed a crime by theft aswell do you? 
Stealing is a crime- why don’t Kawi have him arrested??🤷‍♀️

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Suggesting he 'stole' the money is probably the most ridiculous thing I've read in this thread. Imagine if every employee who arrived at work on Monday...
Suggesting he 'stole' the money is probably the most ridiculous thing I've read in this thread. Imagine if every employee who arrived at work on Monday morning with an aching body and dehydrated head because of their riding antics over the weekend were accused of 'stealing' their salary for the day. We've all done it- whether it be a hangover, a beat up body from Moto, or other personal issues, we've all underperformed at work for some reason & still claimed our pay. Let's keep things in perspective and not say he stole anything.
Indy mxer wrote:

I wouldn't call what Prado did "under performing". That's sugarcoating it. He flat out quit. Therefore he wasn't earning his money, 

INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN ENGLISH‘To quit’ - stop or discontinue (an action or activity).He didn’t actually quit though did he. He rode the bike every race. He certainly underperformed. Sharpen...
INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN ENGLISH
‘To quit’ - stop or discontinue (an action or activity).

He didn’t actually quit though did he. 
He rode the bike every race. 

He certainly underperformed. 

Sharpen up your understanding of the English language and post sensibly. Please. Thankyou.

Lmfao! 

Do know anything about pro motocross? Since you like to use the dictionary, you may want to look up the words, ride and race.

He didn't get paid big money from Kawi and Monstar to "ride the bike". He got paid to race the bike, and actually try to compete for wins. Not just ride around and get beat by privateers, one of which was on a stock KX 450. 

Were you watching when he tried to not ride at all at Budds Creek? In American motocross lingo, he quit!.  

You can continue to be a Prado apologist and to use the word "underperform"  all you want. Everyone saw the crap he pulled and the things he said, and most think he quit on the team.

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INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN ENGLISH‘To quit’ - stop or discontinue (an action or activity).He didn’t actually quit though did he. He rode the bike every race. He certainly underperformed. Sharpen...
INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN ENGLISH
‘To quit’ - stop or discontinue (an action or activity).

He didn’t actually quit though did he. 
He rode the bike every race. 

He certainly underperformed. 

Sharpen up your understanding of the English language and post sensibly. Please. Thankyou.
Mavetism wrote:
If intentionally trying to not qualify and riding around in 18th with one hand of his handlebars isn't the definition of quitting to you then I...

If intentionally trying to not qualify and riding around in 18th with one hand of his handlebars isn't the definition of quitting to you then I don't know. Just because his bike was still moving forward lol

This is only an argument about using correct wording. I suppose you could say “he quit riding to the best of his ability”Which is different to just...

This is only an argument about using correct wording. 
I suppose you could say “he quit riding to the best of his ability”

Which is different to just saying “he quit “

Anyway.. “stole”… I guess you think he committed a crime by theft aswell do you? 
Stealing is a crime- why don’t Kawi have him arrested??🤷‍♀️

Check your last sentence. You shuold have used "doesn't" not "don't".

Btw, "stole" is a figure of speech. Learn how we talk here before trying to be the grammar police.

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To be honest, riding a lap around a national track with one hand actually sound pretty impressive to me.

Mavetism wrote:

And finishing in 6th overall in the championship on top of that!

C'mon, that's bs. 

How many guys were out injured, or didn't ride the outdoors that would have finished ahead of him? CW, AP KR, and JA.

He would've been lucky to finish 10th!

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To be honest, riding a lap around a national track with one hand actually sound pretty impressive to me.

Mavetism wrote:

And finishing in 6th overall in the championship on top of that!

Indy mxer wrote:
C'mon, that's bs. How many guys were out injured, or didn't ride the outdoors that would have finished ahead of him? CW, AP KR, and JA.He would've...

C'mon, that's bs. 

How many guys were out injured, or didn't ride the outdoors that would have finished ahead of him? CW, AP KR, and JA.

He would've been lucky to finish 10th!

Sarcasm. 

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Kawi has no leverage. Prado could always stay, collect a ton of money, and ride around in 20th. They don’t want that. 

JBlain619 wrote:
You couldn't be more wrong.  Kawasaki has the leverage, it is a matter of how far they want to dig in their heels.  This is a...

You couldn't be more wrong.  Kawasaki has the leverage, it is a matter of how far they want to dig in their heels.  This is a damned if you do , damned if you don't situation.  Each party needs to be very careful for future implications.

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This.  The downside risk of Kawi going hard at Prado is that riders in the future will be much more wary of signing with them for...

This.  The downside risk of Kawi going hard at Prado is that riders in the future will be much more wary of signing with them for fear of a spiteful reprisal if things don’t work out.

Not saying this is ethical or morally right, but IF Prado wanted to play the game the way it's being played now, he should drop all other team negotiations and stay with the Kawasaki. Put in a real effort to race the bike (so as not to induce a performance clause), but make the team so miserable that they want nothing more than to pay out the contracted amount to make him leave. Then take a deal with another team, if any US based teams would actually offer one at that point. That's the real gamble.

Prado actually has all the juice unless he wants to lose a bunch of money to leave on his own accord.

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Mavetism wrote:

And finishing in 6th overall in the championship on top of that!

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C'mon, that's bs. How many guys were out injured, or didn't ride the outdoors that would have finished ahead of him? CW, AP KR, and JA.He would've...

C'mon, that's bs. 

How many guys were out injured, or didn't ride the outdoors that would have finished ahead of him? CW, AP KR, and JA.

He would've been lucky to finish 10th!

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Sarcasm. 

Oops. Sorry I missed that. Doh!!

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disbanded wrote:

To be honest, riding a lap around a national track with one hand actually sound pretty impressive to me.

He's so talented and got such fast reflexes he doesn't need tear offs. He just deflects the roost away from his goggles with his hands

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Suggesting he 'stole' the money is probably the most ridiculous thing I've read in this thread. Imagine if every employee who arrived at work on Monday...
Suggesting he 'stole' the money is probably the most ridiculous thing I've read in this thread. Imagine if every employee who arrived at work on Monday morning with an aching body and dehydrated head because of their riding antics over the weekend were accused of 'stealing' their salary for the day. We've all done it- whether it be a hangover, a beat up body from Moto, or other personal issues, we've all underperformed at work for some reason & still claimed our pay. Let's keep things in perspective and not say he stole anything.
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I wouldn't call what Prado did "under performing". That's sugarcoating it. He flat out quit. Therefore he wasn't earning his money, 

INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN ENGLISH‘To quit’ - stop or discontinue (an action or activity).He didn’t actually quit though did he. He rode the bike every race. He certainly underperformed. Sharpen...
INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN ENGLISH
‘To quit’ - stop or discontinue (an action or activity).

He didn’t actually quit though did he. 
He rode the bike every race. 

He certainly underperformed. 

Sharpen up your understanding of the English language and post sensibly. Please. Thankyou.

You can try and paint the picture any way you want to....quit, underperform, sandbag, sabotage, etc....doesn't change anything about the lack of effort and finger pointing that he is guilty of this season....but then to purposefully try not to qualify.....what a way to tarnish his MXGP championships....

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Not saying this is ethical or morally right, but IF Prado wanted to play the game the way it's being played now, he should drop all...

Not saying this is ethical or morally right, but IF Prado wanted to play the game the way it's being played now, he should drop all other team negotiations and stay with the Kawasaki. Put in a real effort to race the bike (so as not to induce a performance clause), but make the team so miserable that they want nothing more than to pay out the contracted amount to make him leave. Then take a deal with another team, if any US based teams would actually offer one at that point. That's the real gamble.

Prado actually has all the juice unless he wants to lose a bunch of money to leave on his own accord.

You guys really think Prado has real leverage over the global billion dollar organisations that are Kawasaki and Monster? It's just small hiccup in their overall operations. 

Prado is gambling with his long term career reputation and currency. His best bet is to take some accountability, settle on a middle ground $ amount, payment plan etc and hope is ass he does well on the KTM. He pretty much has to be on the podium regularly because he's already shown when he put in the effort on the kawi he could get 5th. 

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