#19: MXGP of China

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Whitey 9/14/2025 1:36am
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Bearuno wrote:
Seems pretty good to me.Yes, it's flat, but, much of the World is flat.Yes, it's man made, but hell, there's a  sh**load of man made stuff...

Seems pretty good to me.

Yes, it's flat, but, much of the World is flat.

Yes, it's man made, but hell, there's a  sh**load of man made stuff on even the most 'natural' of tracks , nowadays.

Not to mention ( but I am) SX and SMX tracks........

And come on, our esteemed  DeStouwer,  it's timed practice so far - riders are going for fast times.

 I've read this "one lined" stuff all year ( well, for years) , yet in races, I see plenty of lines - that they are mainly seen when riders  are battling : well, that's what you do to try to pass, you Don't follow. And, if the rider in front of you, is 'on the ball', they are sticking to the fastest line they can find. Thus, making it difficult to pass.  

Nice to see grass between lanes, so it's got a better look to it. 

As always, I hope that these Build Up tracks, are retained for Locals usage. 

I think the Hidden Valley ( Darwin) track may be a permanent thing, though, they will have to have a different start gate than the GP, that has the start  straight going across the main straight ( I think it's the main straight) of the Tar track.

My 'Always Gripe' : those F**king sponsor signs. Years ago, I sent numerous E mails to Luongo and  many trackside sponsors, asking them to consider having much lower profile signage, so actual trackside spectators could see better.  Heck, I pointed out the resentment I detected from fellow spectators about them, and how that could be a negative to their products / companies image. 

They are still ridiculously tall - but, it shows it's done for the TV / Streaming,  not for any actual race attendees viewing pleasure. Luongo and Co, don't give a flying F**k about those that are at the races, in person, as it makes no more money for them - though, I'm sure, in some cases , Luongo ( Infront)  has his / their  hand in the Till at a few races.

I agree about the signs, it's why I won't waste money going to gp's or even paying for the broadcast. 

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DeStouwer wrote:
Looks like Coenen's title aspirations are done. No drive, no pace, no aggression. It's either the heat or the stress and toll of a long demanding...

Looks like Coenen's title aspirations are done. No drive, no pace, no aggression. It's either the heat or the stress and toll of a long demanding season. Only a DNF from Febvre can keep his hopes alive, but I don't see that happening (nor would I like it to happen).

14th in race 2 and its all but over, 

47 point lead to Febvre into Darwin,   pretty hard to run down from there, 

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DeStouwer 9/14/2025 2:01am
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What a complete farce that podium ceremony😄

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Derpin' DJ 9/14/2025 2:05am
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Dutch Federation gonna have to rip the bandaid off - Herlings needs to be on the MXdN team

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Inferno 9/14/2025 2:09am
9/14/2025 2:09am Edited Date/Time 9/14/2025 2:21am

Nice to see the two HRC guys in the podium

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kaidodragon 9/14/2025 5:16am
9/14/2025 5:16am

MXGP season stats 

GP wins 

5 = Lucas Coenen 
5 = Romain Febvre 
5 = Jeffrey Herlings 
3 = Tim Gajser 
1 = Maxime Renaux 

GP podiums

16 = Romain Febvre 
13 = Lucas Coenen 
6 = Glenn Coldenhoff 
6 = Tim Gajser  
6 = Jeffrey Herlings 
3 = Calvin Vlaanderen 
3 = Ruben Fernandez 
2 = Jeremy Seewer 
1 = Maxime Renaux 
1 = Andrea Bonacorsi 

Race wins 

13 = Lucas Coenen 
8 = Romain Febvre 
8 = Jeffrey Herlings 
7 = Tim Gajser 
1 = Maxime Renaux 
1 = Glenn Coldenhoff 

Race top 3 

27 = Romain Febvre 
27 = Lucas Coenen 
13 = Tim Gajser 
13 = Jeffrey Herlings 
8 = Glenn Coldenhoff 
8 = Ruben Fernandez 
6 = Calvin Vlaanderen 
5 = Maxime Renaux
3 = Andrea Bonacorsi 
2 = Jeremy Seewer 

Laps lead 

249 = Lucas Coenen 
167 = Romain Febvre 
111 = Jeffrey Herlings 
80 = Tim Gajser 
32 = Maxime Renaux 
21 = Glenn Coldenhoff 
3 = Isak Gifting 

Qualifying race wins 

6 = Lucas Coenen 
4 = Jeffrey Herlings 
3 = Romain Febvre 
2 = Tim Gajser 
1 = Maxime Renaux
1 = Ruben Fernandez 
1 = Jago Geerts 

Qualifying race top 3 

14 = Romain Febvre 
10 = Lucas Coenen 
8 = Tim Gajser 
7 = Jeffrey Herlings 
4 = Maxime Renaux
4 = Ruben Fernandez 
3 = Calvin Vlaanderen 
2 = Glenn Coldenhoff 
1 = Pauls Jonass
1 = Jeremy Seewer 
1 = Jago Geerts 
1 = Kevin Horgmo 
1 = Andrea Bonacorsi 

Fastest lap of the race 

12 = Lucas Coenen 
8 = Jeffrey Herlings 
6 = Tim Gajser 
6 = Romain Febvre 
4 = Maxime Renaux 
1 = Glenn Coldenhoff 
1 = Isak Gifting 

Fastest in practice 

7 = Jeffrey Herlings 
4 = Tim Gajser 
4 = Romain Febvre 
3 = Lucas Coenen 
1 = Maxime Renaux 

 

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kaidodragon 9/14/2025 5:18am
9/14/2025 5:18am

MX2 season stats 

GP wins 

6 = Kay De Wolf 
6 = Simon Laengenfelder 
4 = Andrea Adamo 
2 = Sacha Coenen 
1 = Liam Everts 

GP podiums 

14 = Kay De Wolf 
12 = Andrea Adamo 
11 = Simon Laengenfelder 
10 = Sacha Coenen 
3 = Liam Everts 
2 = Thibault Benistant 
2 = Camden Mc Lellan 
1 = Ferruccio Zanchi 
1 = Guillem Farres 
1 = Mathis Valin 

Race wins 

11 = Kay De Wolf 
10 = Simon Laengenfelder 
8 = Andrea Adamo 
4 = Sacha Coenen 
1 = Liam Everts 
1 = Ferruccio Zanchi 
1 = Camden Mc Lellan 
1 = Thibault Benistant 
1 = Guillem Farres 

Race top 3 

23 = Kay De Wolf 
23 = Andrea Adamo 
23 = Simon Laengenfelder 
14 = Sacha Coenen 
8 = Liam Everts 
7 = Thibault Benistant 
5 = Camden Mc Lellan 
2 = Mathis Valin
2 = Guillem Farres 
1 = Liam Everts 
1 = Cas Valk
1 = Ferruccio Zanchi 
1 = Valerio Lata
1 = Oriol Oliver 

Laps lead 

168 = Simon Laengenfelder 
165 = Sacha Coenen 
124 = Kay De Wolf 
93 = Andrea Adamo 
22 = Camden Mc Lellan 
21 = Liam Everts 
14 = Thibault Benistant  
13 = Ferruccio Zanchi 
13 = Guillem Farres
6 = Oriol Oliver 
4 = Mathis Valin
2 = Karlis Reisulis 

Qualifying race wins 

4 = Thibault Benistant 
4 = Andrea Adamo 
3 = Simon Laengenfelder 
3 = Kay De Wolf 
2 = Sacha Coenen 
1 = Liam Everts 
1 = Valerio Lata 
1 = Mathis Valin 

Qualifying race top 3 

10 = Simon Laengenfelder 
9 = Sacha Coenen 
8 = Liam Everts 
8 = Kay De Wolf 
7 = Thibault Benistant 
6 = Andrea Adamo 
3 = Valerio Lata
2 = Guillem Farres 
1 = Karlis Reisulis 
1 = Mathis Valin
1 = Camden Mc Lellan 

Fastest lap of the race 

14 = Simon Laengenfelder 
8 = Sacha Coenen 
7 = Kay De Wolf 
5 = Andrea Adamo 
3 = Liam Everts 
1 = Thibault Benistant 

Fastest in practice 

6 = Kay De Wolf 
5 = Sacha Coenen 
4 = Simon Laengenfelder 
2 = Thibault Benistant 
1 = Mathis Valin
1 = Valerio Lata

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kaidodragon 9/14/2025 5:25am
9/14/2025 5:25am

Fastest laps of the races 

MX2 race 1 

1.53.089 = Simon Laengenfelder 
1.53.323 = Sacha Coenen 
1.53.903 = Kay De Wolf 
1.55.661 = Andrea Adamo 
1.55.999 = Liam Everts 
1.56.010 = Mathis Valin 
1.56.728 = Valerio Lata
1.57.363 = Karlis Reisulis 
1.57.381 = Camden Mc Lellan 
1.57.545 = Guillem Farres 

MXGP race 1 

1.53.577 = Maxime Renaux
1.53.757 = Jeffrey Herlings 
1.54.209 = Tim Gajser 
1.54.763 = Pauls Jonass 
1.54.995 = Lucas Coenen 
1.55.175 = Ruben Fernandez 
1.55.358 = Romain Febvre 
1.55.493 = Glenn Coldenhoff 
1.55.582 = Calvin Vlaanderen 
1.55.664 = Andrea Bonacorsi 

MX2 race 2 

1.51.345 = Simon Laengenfelder 
1.51.647 = Andrea Adamo
1.51.842 = Sacha Coenen 
1.52.509 = Kay De Wolf 
1.53.472 = Camden Mc Lellan 
1.54.144 = Guillem Farres
1.54.620 = Liam Everts 
1.54.898 = Rick Elzinga 
1.55.392 = Mathis Valin
1.55.692 = Jens Walvoort 

MXGP race 2 

1.53.471 = Jeffrey Herlings 
1.53.877 = Tim Gajser 
1.54.292 = Romain Febvre 
1.54.464 = Ruben Fernandez 
1.54.758 = Maxime Renaux 
1.55.320 = Calvin Vlaanderen 
1.55.821 = Jago Geerts 
1.56.048 = Pauls Jonass 
1.56.188 = Jan Pancar 
1.56.304 = Andrea Bonacorsi 
 

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Cortami79 9/14/2025 8:25am
9/14/2025 8:25am

Well, Laengefelder and Febvre definitely did a good job this weekend. Both de Wolf and L Coenen had a total off weekend

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THE mx addict 9/14/2025 8:26am
9/14/2025 8:26am
Cortami79 wrote:

Well, Laengefelder and Febvre definitely did a good job this weekend. Both de Wolf and L Coenen had a total off weekend

I won't say De Wolf had an off week-end...

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Cortami79 9/14/2025 8:28am
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Cortami79 wrote:

Well, Laengefelder and Febvre definitely did a good job this weekend. Both de Wolf and L Coenen had a total off weekend

THE mx addict wrote:

I won't say De Wolf had an off week-end...

It wasn’t as bad as Coenen, but his job was to go 1-1-1. He needs some misfortune from Laengefelder to win the title next week.. 

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EuroGuy39 9/14/2025 11:13am
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Track was pretty good IMO. Racing was decent, looking forward to Australia.

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matze 9/14/2025 11:20am
9/14/2025 11:20am Edited Date/Time 9/14/2025 11:37am
Cortami79 wrote:

Well, Laengefelder and Febvre definitely did a good job this weekend. Both de Wolf and L Coenen had a total off weekend

Off weekend for de wolf? The reason simon is points leader is because he was faster than de wolf on most tracks except sandtracks. The reason the points are that close is cause of the mechanical at the quali race netherlands, which gave him bad gate pick and got caught up in both motos first turn crashes. And since it was a sandtrack de wolf was on rails. Cost simon big time. This weekend now was not an off weekend more so the "usual" de wolf on slick hardpack tracks this year. I thought he actually did really good especially in that first moto

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tek14 9/14/2025 11:21am
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Whats wrong with Coenen he didnt seems to have any fight in him whole weekend? Hurt, sick or something else?

Racing is better when Herlings shows up. 

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Richard Tease II 9/14/2025 2:24pm
9/14/2025 2:24pm
Bearuno wrote:
Seems pretty good to me.Yes, it's flat, but, much of the World is flat.Yes, it's man made, but hell, there's a  sh**load of man made stuff...

Seems pretty good to me.

Yes, it's flat, but, much of the World is flat.

Yes, it's man made, but hell, there's a  sh**load of man made stuff on even the most 'natural' of tracks , nowadays.

Not to mention ( but I am) SX and SMX tracks........

And come on, our esteemed  DeStouwer,  it's timed practice so far - riders are going for fast times.

 I've read this "one lined" stuff all year ( well, for years) , yet in races, I see plenty of lines - that they are mainly seen when riders  are battling : well, that's what you do to try to pass, you Don't follow. And, if the rider in front of you, is 'on the ball', they are sticking to the fastest line they can find. Thus, making it difficult to pass.  

Nice to see grass between lanes, so it's got a better look to it. 

As always, I hope that these Build Up tracks, are retained for Locals usage. 

I think the Hidden Valley ( Darwin) track may be a permanent thing, though, they will have to have a different start gate than the GP, that has the start  straight going across the main straight ( I think it's the main straight) of the Tar track.

My 'Always Gripe' : those F**king sponsor signs. Years ago, I sent numerous E mails to Luongo and  many trackside sponsors, asking them to consider having much lower profile signage, so actual trackside spectators could see better.  Heck, I pointed out the resentment I detected from fellow spectators about them, and how that could be a negative to their products / companies image. 

They are still ridiculously tall - but, it shows it's done for the TV / Streaming,  not for any actual race attendees viewing pleasure. Luongo and Co, don't give a flying F**k about those that are at the races, in person, as it makes no more money for them - though, I'm sure, in some cases , Luongo ( Infront)  has his / their  hand in the Till at a few races.

Whitey wrote:

I agree about the signs, it's why I won't waste money going to gp's or even paying for the broadcast. 

We won't go to Darwin because of the signage on the track. I don't want to watch riders' heads go past or in the distance.

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Dan-The-Man 9/14/2025 2:37pm
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I didn’t care for the track but it definitely tested the guys. Quite a few mistakes from the guys. Too bad Lucas had a bad weekend. Herlings and Gajser showing they are still the best in the class when healthy. Herlings is looking really good.

 Simon nailed his weekend for the most part even in the heat. I knew this would be a tough track for Kay, considering how he’s been on these types of tracks. He gave himself a decent shot going into the last round. He will need some help.Really impressed by Adamo’s late moto charges.  

Whats with the guys rolling around the track 3 laps down?

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kevinconnor 9/14/2025 5:19pm
9/14/2025 5:19pm
motomad734 wrote:

anybody elses mxgp qualifying race replay saying you have to buy now again on mxgptv?

Shaned9326 wrote:

Yes and they need to fix this ASAP!!!

Mine did. It's fixed 

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Brent 9/14/2025 5:49pm
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tek14 wrote:

Whats wrong with Coenen he didnt seems to have any fight in him whole weekend? Hurt, sick or something else?

Racing is better when Herlings shows up. 

I heard a some of the riders are fighting off sickness.  

The heat and the different food don't help too much 

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EuroGuy39 wrote:

Track was pretty good IMO. Racing was decent, looking forward to Australia.

If these fly away races aren’t the worst tracks on the schedule then they are a success. Had some weird jumps but otherwise OK. 

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kaidodragon 9/14/2025 9:21pm
9/14/2025 9:21pm

Points given this week-end 

MX2 

55 = Sacha Coenen 
51 = Simon Laengenfelder 
47 = Kay De Wolf 
46 = Andrea Adamo 
34 = Guillem Farres 
34 = Valerio Lata
30 = Camden Mc Lellan 
30 = Liam Everts
27 = Rick Elzinga 
27 = Karlis Reisulis 

MXGP 

60 = Jeffrey Herlings 
53 = Tim Gajser 
44 = Romain Febvre 
42 = Ruben Fernandez 
42 = Maxime Renaux 
32 = Calvin Vlaanderen 
28 = Andrea Bonacorsi 
27 = Glenn Coldenhoff 
27 = Pauls Jonass 
23 = Lucas Coenen

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Cortami79 9/14/2025 10:53pm
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Cortami79 wrote:

Well, Laengefelder and Febvre definitely did a good job this weekend. Both de Wolf and L Coenen had a total off weekend

matze wrote:
Off weekend for de wolf? The reason simon is points leader is because he was faster than de wolf on most tracks except sandtracks. The reason...

Off weekend for de wolf? The reason simon is points leader is because he was faster than de wolf on most tracks except sandtracks. The reason the points are that close is cause of the mechanical at the quali race netherlands, which gave him bad gate pick and got caught up in both motos first turn crashes. And since it was a sandtrack de wolf was on rails. Cost simon big time. This weekend now was not an off weekend more so the "usual" de wolf on slick hardpack tracks this year. I thought he actually did really good especially in that first moto

Haha ok, you're right. Might have to rephrase that part for a bit😁

I saw it as an off weekend as he had to go 1-1-1 to be really in the hunt for the title. Not to take anything away from Laengefelder, there is a reason he's the points leader for most of the year by now. The only thing Simon could have done better was winning that second moto. Shows again how much of a determined rider Adamo is. That guy literally never gives up. 

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So if my math is mathing if De Wolf goes 1-1-1 Simon can go 3-4-4 and they're tied? Not sure who has the tiebreaker here.
No need to bust out the calculator for mxgp. Febvre basically has to go DNF-DNF on Sunday for Coenen to even have a chance. And at this point with Gajser and Herlings back it's far from guaranteed that he'll go 1-1 even with Febvre out

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they prefer not to mention about spectators

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David934 wrote:
they prefer not to mention about spectators
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they prefer not to mention about spectators

34 degrees? I thought these euros can’t handle the heat.

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David934 wrote:
they prefer not to mention about spectators
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they prefer not to mention about spectators

CPR wrote:

34 degrees? I thought these euros can’t handle the heat.

34 ??? That's damn cold 🙃

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David934 wrote:
they prefer not to mention about spectators
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they prefer not to mention about spectators

CPR wrote:

34 degrees? I thought these euros can’t handle the heat.

ATKpilot99 wrote:

34 ??? That's damn cold 🙃

Little prep before Darwin😉

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David934 wrote:
they prefer not to mention about spectators
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they prefer not to mention about spectators

CPR wrote:

34 degrees? I thought these euros can’t handle the heat.

ATKpilot99 wrote:

34 ??? That's damn cold 🙃

I think that is Celsius which is in the 90s.F. 

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David934 wrote:
they prefer not to mention about spectators
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they prefer not to mention about spectators

I think there were more as there were in Turkey.

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BoxcarWilly 9/15/2025 7:29am
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Maybe I need to get a Chinese passport to help fill the gate 😂

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inthebadboycorner 10/8/2025 7:15pm
10/8/2025 7:15pm

Did anyone go to spectate, 

I'm dreaming of a visit in 2026, was it Anglo friendly?

Easy to drive from Airport, Hotel, track.

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