2027 MXdN at Unadilla - what I think many would want.

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Edited Date/Time 8/20/2025 12:39am

The title says it all.

Yes, I know it's down for Assen that year.

But , seriously, to have that 1987 to 2027 tie in, would be wonderful. 

That it would be in the USA within 2 years, well, I don't think many would bitch about it - I hope. 

To have the event, at a significant time with regards to when it was last there, at one of THE Most Magnificent tracks in the World, well, how could anyone not want to see it?

I daresay the next US MXdN may be , again at Iron Man, but, I really hope that somehow, Luongo (yes I know it's Infront now, but The Luongos still are behind the 'curtain' pulling the strings) and DC, could see just how Historic, and, Massive  ($$$$$$$$ for both sides of promotion) such a return to Unadilla, would be.

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8/20/2025 3:24am

Spring Creek gets my vote for the next MXoN in the USA

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8/20/2025 4:44am Edited Date/Time 8/20/2025 4:52am

Isn’t Unadilla like 3 hours from a major international airport?  If so, it ain’t gonna happen when you have 2 great tracks (Crawfordsville and Red Bud) that are in the Coombs family’s back pocket and within an hour or two of a major airport.  Not saying it wouldn’t be cool, but I wouldn’t bet on it.

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Unadilla’s history is cool, but most MXoN fans flying in from Europe don’t care about nostalgia — they care about getting there. And Unadilla is a nightmare for travel, parking, and facilities. Even Google Maps won’t route me from Chicago. For MXoN scale, it’s just not practical compared to RedBud or Ironman.


 

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8/20/2025 5:31am Edited Date/Time 8/20/2025 5:46am

I "wouldn't bet on it ",  either.

It's just a thought for a bit of nostalgia / a direct line to the '87 event.

On, one of the Greatest Tracks in the World.

I'm old (and silly, I know), and can remember '87, and, we've just seen Unadilla last weekend. - it being at a track like that, as against a 'pop up' at Assen, well, there's a bit of difference there.

They had no problem with attendance in '87, even with the weather, nor it's lack of proximity to International Airports.

And, the only 2 year gap between MXdNs in the USA, would be  of concern, and I'm not a fan of such a short time between this year and '27.

It Will Not Happen, of course, but I think it was a missed opportunity - that was, of course, missed some years ago, with planning / awarding the event line up timeframes.

 

PS : I have nothing, whatsoever, against Ironman, or Millville. I was a fan of John Martin, through his Enduro / Offroad exploits, well before his boys were born. Here he  is arcing it up on his way to  winning the ( what I think was ) '82 Coal Mountain National Enduro , the other pic I have listed as being from the '83 Loretta Lynne Enduro / GNCC:

John Martin winning the 1982 Black Coal National Enduro on a Can AmJohn Martin on a Can Am at Loretta Lynns 1985

 

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Too remote, and the soil is ruined. We used to go to the USGPs there. Hannah vs Omara and all, it used to be great, could camp there too. But like the hot girl in high school who went throuh three marriages, this track isn't what it used to be. Too many amateur races, gncc, burned it out.

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8/20/2025 6:05am

Nope Millville is a far better track than Unadilla. Unadilla is basically flat with almost zero jumps...lame. Spring Creek gets the biggest nod for the next new Des Nations track in USA.

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HonDawg17 wrote:
Nope Millville is a far better track than Unadilla. Unadilla is basically flat with almost zero jumps...lame. Spring Creek gets the biggest nod for the next...

Nope Millville is a far better track than Unadilla. Unadilla is basically flat with almost zero jumps...lame. Spring Creek gets the biggest nod for the next new Des Nations track in USA.

Perhaps you are biased but I'm on board with Spring Creek, it's spectacular on all accounts.

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Spoonguy wrote:
Too remote, and the soil is ruined. We used to go to the USGPs there. Hannah vs Omara and all, it used to be great, could...

Too remote, and the soil is ruined. We used to go to the USGPs there. Hannah vs Omara and all, it used to be great, could camp there too. But like the hot girl in high school who went throuh three marriages, this track isn't what it used to be. Too many amateur races, gncc, burned it out.

Track is a business and gotta make money man.  Can't be grass for the whole year.  If Tim Ritchie got his hands on this track and applied his formula could maybe change the track soil.  The layout is very good though, great features and rough.  I'm good with the track being remote.

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Spoonguy wrote:
Too remote, and the soil is ruined. We used to go to the USGPs there. Hannah vs Omara and all, it used to be great, could...

Too remote, and the soil is ruined. We used to go to the USGPs there. Hannah vs Omara and all, it used to be great, could camp there too. But like the hot girl in high school who went throuh three marriages, this track isn't what it used to be. Too many amateur races, gncc, burned it out.

Ramrod wrote:
Track is a business and gotta make money man.  Can't be grass for the whole year.  If Tim Ritchie got his hands on this track and...

Track is a business and gotta make money man.  Can't be grass for the whole year.  If Tim Ritchie got his hands on this track and applied his formula could maybe change the track soil.  The layout is very good though, great features and rough.  I'm good with the track being remote.

I completely understand, I own a business. I am all for making money, and it still a good track. It just isn't what it used to be. And in this day and age, it being remote, is a deal breaker for many in the industry internationally.

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HonDawg17 wrote:
Nope Millville is a far better track than Unadilla. Unadilla is basically flat with almost zero jumps...lame. Spring Creek gets the biggest nod for the next...

Nope Millville is a far better track than Unadilla. Unadilla is basically flat with almost zero jumps...lame. Spring Creek gets the biggest nod for the next new Des Nations track in USA.

“Basically flat”


My calves hurt just as bad after both races. Millville has one big hill, Unadilla drops in and out of one hell of a valley. I bet Unadilla actually has more elevation per lap than Millville. Millville has a higher peak number in change of course, but total change per lap I think is owned by Unadilla.

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Spoonguy wrote:
Too remote, and the soil is ruined. We used to go to the USGPs there. Hannah vs Omara and all, it used to be great, could...

Too remote, and the soil is ruined. We used to go to the USGPs there. Hannah vs Omara and all, it used to be great, could camp there too. But like the hot girl in high school who went throuh three marriages, this track isn't what it used to be. Too many amateur races, gncc, burned it out.

Response to Spoonguy:    I 100% agree that Unadilla isn't what it used to be, but it's still an amazing motocross track and facility.   It wasn't wet enough and I don't think having practice on Friday helps it.  If the track owner wishes to have "Open Practice" just do that Sunday and Monday afterwards.  Maybe wait and do the AHRMA Vintage weekend in the fall so the Unadilla MX track COULD be grass again for the AMA National.     (not my photo)

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I got downvoted for saying High Point but that was strictly because it’s super close to home for me.


Realistically Unadilla or Spring Creek would be my favored tracks for MXdN. Unless Mad Mike decides to make Steel City great again, then that’s my vote. 

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HonDawg17 wrote:
Nope Millville is a far better track than Unadilla. Unadilla is basically flat with almost zero jumps...lame. Spring Creek gets the biggest nod for the next...

Nope Millville is a far better track than Unadilla. Unadilla is basically flat with almost zero jumps...lame. Spring Creek gets the biggest nod for the next new Des Nations track in USA.

ML512 wrote:
“Basically flat”My calves hurt just as bad after both races. Millville has one big hill, Unadilla drops in and out of one hell of a valley...

“Basically flat”


My calves hurt just as bad after both races. Millville has one big hill, Unadilla drops in and out of one hell of a valley. I bet Unadilla actually has more elevation per lap than Millville. Millville has a higher peak number in change of course, but total change per lap I think is owned by Unadilla.

I was at Unadilla for the 1987 MXoN and the place was PACKED so yes international can and will make the trip.

Bring back the original rough not SX track for this event.

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8/20/2025 7:59am
HonDawg17 wrote:
Nope Millville is a far better track than Unadilla. Unadilla is basically flat with almost zero jumps...lame. Spring Creek gets the biggest nod for the next...

Nope Millville is a far better track than Unadilla. Unadilla is basically flat with almost zero jumps...lame. Spring Creek gets the biggest nod for the next new Des Nations track in USA.

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HonDawg17 wrote:
Nope Millville is a far better track than Unadilla. Unadilla is basically flat with almost zero jumps...lame. Spring Creek gets the biggest nod for the next...

Nope Millville is a far better track than Unadilla. Unadilla is basically flat with almost zero jumps...lame. Spring Creek gets the biggest nod for the next new Des Nations track in USA.

Ramrod wrote:

Perhaps you are biased but I'm on board with Spring Creek, it's spectacular on all accounts.

Oh yeah definitely biased. But I mean just look at what Spring Creek offers as a track compared to Unadilla. Unadilla is fast, limited jumps and soft turns. Spring Creek has every type of turn, huge elevation changes, 3 types of dirt. Best spectator viewing out of all other tracks.. Spring Creek is a way better option.

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HonDawg17 wrote:
Nope Millville is a far better track than Unadilla. Unadilla is basically flat with almost zero jumps...lame. Spring Creek gets the biggest nod for the next...

Nope Millville is a far better track than Unadilla. Unadilla is basically flat with almost zero jumps...lame. Spring Creek gets the biggest nod for the next new Des Nations track in USA.

ML512 wrote:
“Basically flat”My calves hurt just as bad after both races. Millville has one big hill, Unadilla drops in and out of one hell of a valley...

“Basically flat”


My calves hurt just as bad after both races. Millville has one big hill, Unadilla drops in and out of one hell of a valley. I bet Unadilla actually has more elevation per lap than Millville. Millville has a higher peak number in change of course, but total change per lap I think is owned by Unadilla.

lumpy790 wrote:
I was at Unadilla for the 1987 MXoN and the place was PACKED so yes international can and will make the trip.Bring back the original rough...

I was at Unadilla for the 1987 MXoN and the place was PACKED so yes international can and will make the trip.

Bring back the original rough not SX track for this event.

That was almost fifty years ago, times have changed, the people running the sport has changed, the people sponsoring the sport has changed. The biggest town within an hour of the track is Syracuse. 

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bro, Unadilla would be so watered down, remove the skyshot, remove screw-u, add sand, add a wood section, add more vip viewing... no thanks

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HonDawg17 wrote:
Nope Millville is a far better track than Unadilla. Unadilla is basically flat with almost zero jumps...lame. Spring Creek gets the biggest nod for the next...

Nope Millville is a far better track than Unadilla. Unadilla is basically flat with almost zero jumps...lame. Spring Creek gets the biggest nod for the next new Des Nations track in USA.

I think many if not most would agree that Spring Creek is an all around better facility, but when you say Unadilla is flat and lame you kind of blow your credibility and look, well, dumb.

 

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8/20/2025 9:10am Edited Date/Time 8/20/2025 10:27am
peelout wrote:

bro, Unadilla would be so watered down, remove the skyshot, remove screw-u, add sand, add a wood section, add more vip viewing... no thanks

Screw-U would definitely be renamed to "pardon me, I'm sorry"

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Spring Creek gets my vote for the next MXoN in the USA

Seems to be a lot of talk from the brothers lately about it makes me think it's on the table.  It would be awesome.

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HonDawg17 wrote:
Nope Millville is a far better track than Unadilla. Unadilla is basically flat with almost zero jumps...lame. Spring Creek gets the biggest nod for the next...

Nope Millville is a far better track than Unadilla. Unadilla is basically flat with almost zero jumps...lame. Spring Creek gets the biggest nod for the next new Des Nations track in USA.

Best track in the series.

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MXoN needs to be on the West coast when it comes stateside again. 

These should be our three top picks in no particular order 

Millville 

Glen Helen (flame away)

Thunder Valley

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8/20/2025 12:23pm
Beeby wrote:
Unadilla’s history is cool, but most MXoN fans flying in from Europe don’t care about nostalgia — they care about getting there. And Unadilla is a...

Unadilla’s history is cool, but most MXoN fans flying in from Europe don’t care about nostalgia — they care about getting there. And Unadilla is a nightmare for travel, parking, and facilities. Even Google Maps won’t route me from Chicago. For MXoN scale, it’s just not practical compared to RedBud or Ironman.


 

Forgot using Google; if you’re coming from Chicago then Professional will give you a much more interesting ride out to Dilla.

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peelout wrote:

bro, Unadilla would be so watered down, remove the skyshot, remove screw-u, add sand, add a wood section, add more vip viewing... no thanks

Having Screw U is a must. Remember it took Hannah 3 attempts to get up it in the mud MXoN and he still won the 125 class.

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Beeby wrote:
Unadilla’s history is cool, but most MXoN fans flying in from Europe don’t care about nostalgia — they care about getting there. And Unadilla is a...

Unadilla’s history is cool, but most MXoN fans flying in from Europe don’t care about nostalgia — they care about getting there. And Unadilla is a nightmare for travel, parking, and facilities. Even Google Maps won’t route me from Chicago. For MXoN scale, it’s just not practical compared to RedBud or Ironman.


 

Forgot using Google; if you’re coming from Chicago then Professional will give you a much more interesting ride out to Dilla.

Now THAT would be a ride 

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8/20/2025 8:20pm Edited Date/Time 8/20/2025 8:25pm
HonDawg17 wrote:
Nope Millville is a far better track than Unadilla. Unadilla is basically flat with almost zero jumps...lame. Spring Creek gets the biggest nod for the next...

Nope Millville is a far better track than Unadilla. Unadilla is basically flat with almost zero jumps...lame. Spring Creek gets the biggest nod for the next new Des Nations track in USA.

You have obviously never been to Unadilla. You could call it the best track on the circuit. But it is smack dab right in the middle of nowheresville.

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8/21/2025 4:25am Edited Date/Time 8/21/2025 4:27am

Unadilla would have to sell many over priced cups of bud lite to offset the cost of the event…based off what I seen last week….it’s possible they can do it…For a proper MXDN race, the track should be seeded in the spring, let grass grow until the event, let track develop, no grooming all day….I wonder how the riders feel about the track these days? 

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Millville for next MXDN. 

I would put Budds, Lakewood, Red Bud, and GH above Unadilla. 

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all i know is, i dont want it back at red bud. dont think it's the best race track. 

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HonDawg17 wrote:
Nope Millville is a far better track than Unadilla. Unadilla is basically flat with almost zero jumps...lame. Spring Creek gets the biggest nod for the next...

Nope Millville is a far better track than Unadilla. Unadilla is basically flat with almost zero jumps...lame. Spring Creek gets the biggest nod for the next new Des Nations track in USA.

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How many riders say Unadilla is their favorite track? I've NEVER heard 1 rider say so. Yet almost half the riders say Millville is their favorite.

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