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I disagree with your 5. point!
He needs to take a Triactin....try actin' like a man......ba dum bum
Imagine if an in their prime Chase or Jett left to go to MXGP next year and were going 12-15 without crashing. I'm an American who has watched a ton of Prado in the GPs, and I honestly thought he would have multiple podiums and maybe even a moto win by now. Slightly below Tomac level performance perhaps. This is just the worst performance in a full season from someone as decorated as him that I can ever remember. It's head scratching today the least.
Maybe that big air tom guy can help out?
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If Chase or Jett went over and placed 15th, we’d never hear the end of it about how AMA riders suck and MXGP is superior.
Prado is over what? His riding is the problem. Nit the bIke as you just proved by the Zook
Wrong. Supercross broke his confidence. He's using the bIke and the team as an excuse.
450 is too late to learn supercross.
Regarding the Resume.
I had looked at that resume, and while Prado has a solid two years in the 450 Class of MXGP, I can’t recall an MXGP rider coming to America and completely dominating the field. Or an AMA Pro Motocross rider going to MXGP and doing the same. One standout exception is Jeffrey Herlings. Even riders like Corolli or Everts was closest with a 4th at Unadilla, when racing on US Soil its a change. Example, Max Anstie he had to adjust and when he did, it turned out well. At least for SX.
This isn’t to say it never goes well the other way, but an MXGP resume should be taken lightly. Historically, it usually takes at least two seasons to adapt and perform consistently in AMA Pro Motocross. This fact isn't hidden from the industry.
Unless I am missing it, and I would welcome who I am forgetting. I can't think of anyone that has done it.
I am hoping next year goes better for him. He is still adjusting.
This was a brilliant race. Herlings going from last to first in the second moto giving him a perfect 1-1 victory.
Seb Tortelli is the closest comparison to Prado that I can think of in the modern era. A premier class champ who has to learn SX in the premier class. People thought he was going to challenge Ricky outdoors, he did sometimes, but for the most part he was still ripping podiums, some wins, and a lot of top fives and tens. If Prado was doing that, everyone would be fine. He's not. He's getting 15th and 23rd without being hurt, having mechanical issues, or crashing. That never happens in this sport where a premier champion just rides around with no effort. It's the craziest thing I have ever seen.
It was brilliant, but one off races have far too many circumstances to be completely relevant and used as a baseline. Just as JH has a perfect 1-1 score in AMA Motocross, RJ has the same perfect 1-1 score in the GP’s. And Tomac has a record of 1-1-1-1-1-3 in GP’s. On the surface, you could easily come up with a perspective of dominance in all 3 cases…. But if you know, you know there’s a lot more to each of those situations.
And that’s why this full season from Prado is such a trainwreck.
Same energy...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9Lh8jW4pn4
So is fed slang? I’ve been too afraid to ask.
He needs to start thinking about his future. Maybe he's done racing, I don't see anyone wanting him now. He's definitely quiting
Exactly, tortellini came over and looked great almost right away and maybe that era was the biggest time with RC and other big names
...and he not have his SIDI boots
I hope he get chance riding US soil next year..
Pit Row
Remember when Reed or Alessi went to race MXGP at their prime? Both where racing around 18-20 places so things can be complicated. Not that Chase/Jett will have problems but some always will.
Here is all the gap between the winner and Jorge during this season
+58.753 = Fox Raceway moto 1
+54.200 = Fox Raceway moto 2
+1.41.719 = Hangtown moto 1
+43.482 = Hangtown moto 2
+1.39.450 = Thunder Valley moto 1
DNF = Thunder Valley moto 2
+2.03.951 = High Point moto 1
-1 lap + 22 seconds = High Point moto 2
+46.043 = Southwick moto 1
+1.33.036 = Southwick moto 2
+1.14.977 = Red bud moto 1
+42.906 = Red Bud moto 2
+1.47.071 = Spring Creek moto 1
+1.26.039 = Spring Creek moto 2
+1.42.375 = Washougal moto 1
+2.23.099 = Washougal moto 2
+56.164 = IronMan moto 1
+53.319 = IronMan moto 2
+1.51.317 = Unadilla moto 1
+1.55.287 = Unadilla moto 2
+42.906 = smallest gap (Red Bud moto 2)
+2.23.099 = biggest gap (Washougal moto 2)
+1.24.064 = average gap with the leader (taking away High Point moto 2 where he got lapped and the DNF at Thunder Valley moto 2)
Now lets analyse is raw speed by looking at the time practice compare to the pole(an exercice where is good at, he got the fastest time practice 7 out of 20 time in MXGP last year)
+4.415 = Fox Raceway
+1.884 = Hangtown
+6.698 = Thundey Valley
+3.980 = High Point
+0.285 = Southwick
+2.194 = Red Bud
+3.391 = Spring Creek
+3.081 = Washougal
+0.864 = IronMan
+4.012 = Unadilla
+0.285 = smallest gap (Southwick)
+6.698 = biggest gap (Thunder Valley)
+3.080 = Average gap with the pole
I don't what is going exaclty, but for being the double MXGP world champion and having those stats where you're 1 minute and 24 seconds down the leader and 3 seconds slower in practice is quite catastrophic. Hope he rebounds though.
Reed came from the GP’s, ripped the Regional SX title, got second in Nationals behind Stew, then moved straight to the premier class, won more races than the GOAT in SX and was consistently on the podium in MX. People would explode if an international rider came in and did that now.
Last year Prado beat Guillod in GP-s usually by a minute (between 50 sec - 90 sec) , that was Guillod finishing around 8.-12. usually and Jorge was about 3-4 seconds a lap faster on his fastest laps. It might be that Guillod is much better at adapting to different conditions or that one of them actually wants to race and to do good. Considering many riders think that Prado is one of the most talented guys racing I lean more to the second option. No offence to Valentin Guillod, I think he is doing great considering his current program and I think he could be even a bit better on a better programme.
Quitter!
Even Aussie Webster came over an fed him on a track he’s never raced aswell
I don’t recall Reed and Alessi racing a season (or even a single race) of MXGP in their prime and finishing outside the top 15. Please educate me.
This right here is a real good example of the apparent level of effort Prado is putting in.
The one single difference is...Supercross. The 450 class is the wrong place to learn SX and it broke Jorge.
It will go down as the worst career decision in the history of moto.
The real issue going on is reality setting in that Jett, Hunter, Chase and Eli are just F-in fast on home soil. I think he's protecting his ego, which every champ does, by holding back until he's more comfortable. Even in 2020 when he struggled his 1st year on 450s he seamed to at least be trying, because he had less to lose. Now, if he really tries and is still gapped by 30 seconds, he knows it's not all just the bike and it's easier to be able to say "well I wasn't going 100%" than to accept reality.
And I say all of this as a big fan of his. I know he can turn it around, but put him on his 2024 GG450 and I think he's still struggling to get on the podium.
I don't think his choice to train at ClubMX was really the right decision for him. Nothing against the ClubMX boys, but there really isn't anyone there I feel that is a good training partner for him that is going to push him during motos. Its a bit of a case of big fish small pond where he's faster than all of the guys there. So if you are constantly beating the locals in this case week in and week out setting records on the track you get a false sense of confidence. Come weekend time when he gets dropped into the ocean with the other big fish he realizes that uh oh maybe I am not as fast as I am. At least with the other factory teams they are usually training with guys who are on their same level and can push each other week in and week out. Not much to be gained training with a bunch of amateur's/Loretta's kids.
I thought SX was a success last year which helped him in deciding to come to the AMA. He was top 10 in points before he went back to Europe.
This year I was expecting the same maybe 10-12 in points in SX and then on to MX to battle with the top 5 this year and podiums/wins next year.
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