Sexton’s crash

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Mm471 wrote:
If you zoom in on the vid he is pulling the front brake in the air with his finger and lets it go right before impact...

If you zoom in on the vid he is pulling the front brake in the air with his finger and lets it go right before impact, most likely over cooked it and grabbed the brakes to try to save it 

Where is a view that you can see his right hand throughout? 

Then, IF he was the one who locked it at takeoff, you have to assume something then broke and caused it to be locked after the crash. 

That’s two very, very, very unlikely and yet related events occurring in sequence. Definitely not following Occam’s razor. 

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8/10/2025 9:32am Edited Date/Time 8/10/2025 9:33am

Looking at the way they “prepped” the track it was probably a muddy piece of mulch. 

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8/10/2025 9:36am
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Wife and I were discussing how much PR damage he did by looking so disgusted and dropping his bike in the dirt before stomping off. Can't...

Wife and I were discussing how much PR damage he did by looking so disgusted and dropping his bike in the dirt before stomping off. Can't say I truly blame him, but I'm sure KTM would have preferred he move it off the track so the team could retrieve it. He was kind of screwed by circumstances based on where he found himself: inside the track in a dangerous spot with a malfunctioning bike.

I thought it looked like a stuck throttle on top of the locked brake, plus the bars were bent or the forks twisted. I wonder if the crash smashed the throttle assembly into the brake lever?

I don't buy into that. I can understand how he must have felt. I don't give it a second thought. I was disappointed for Chase.

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Yeah.... the fact that it stayed locked up should eliminate any speculation on it being chase who grabbed the lever causing it to lock up in the air. 

Jump faces weren't really rutted so hard to imagine he hit something on the jump face.

If the perch or master cylinder were jacked from the previous tip over I would think there would have been some indication prior to crash?

Seems like most likely thing is something stuck in between pads and rotor? 

We'll see if we ever get straight answer.

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8/10/2025 9:45am

As Team Green had said, the earlier crash at the beginning of the moto, the bike fell right on the lever. There are two ports in the master cylinder and the small one (the one that squirts fluid in your face) relieves pressure and allows for heat expansion. I'm speculating of course, and a total bummer for him.

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8/10/2025 9:46am
Considering (it appears) that the fast guys were jumping into the face and braking at the same time, looks like he may have hit hard enough...

Considering (it appears) that the fast guys were jumping into the face and braking at the same time, looks like he may have hit hard enough and somehow grabbed the front brake as he was rebounding at the top.

 

Wow, I'm getting better! 10 downvotes?

 

Fuckin pussies. Too bad the forum hides the Debbie downers.

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R66 wrote:
I think the brake was locked hydraulically. I’d like to know what they did to move the bike after Sexton walked away. What did they do...

I think the brake was locked hydraulically. I’d like to know what they did to move the bike after Sexton walked away. What did they do to get the front wheel spinning? 

Cut the brake line.

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8/10/2025 9:52am

He went the same if not further than the lap before, doesn’t happen with a front brake lock up on the faceIMG 5091 1IMG 5092 2

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8/10/2025 9:58am Edited Date/Time 8/10/2025 10:01am
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No way his front wheel was locked up the face. He would have went OTB for sure. I had flash backs watching his crash as I had...

No way his front wheel was locked up the face. He would have went OTB for sure. 

I had flash backs watching his crash as I had one that destroyed my ankle trying to land in very similar fashion. Unsettled on the face caused me to whiskey and off I went. Nose high, grabbed everything in the air to try and save it but was falling off the back, stuck my leg down and whammo!  Chase is lucky to get up!

Think the wheel locking is the result of his front wheel landing sideways, watch it flex/bend as he lands. Pretty sure it peeled the tire off too. 

His wheel was locked up in the air…

No shit.  In a panic he could have touched the front brake in the air. Locked front wheel in the air doesn’t ONLY mean that the wheel was locked off the lip.  Grab your front brake on the face and hold it off the lip and let me how that works out for you. There is a reason No one touches the front brake on a jump, ever. 

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8/10/2025 9:58am

I’m shocked how many people on here don’t understand simple physics for the bike they ride. His front wheel got locked going through the rut up the face of the jump. That’s why he was front end high with no gyro effect. He almost fell off the back of the bike. This isn’t the first time we have seen debris jam front brakes but it’s the first time we have seen it right as you take off. That front wheel wasn’t moving in the air and still wasn’t moving after his crash.

 

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Press516 wrote:
No, the front wheel locked on the takeoff of the jump.  He unexpectedly lost gyro effect and caused the crash.It seems like he had to have...

No, the front wheel locked on the takeoff of the jump.  He unexpectedly lost gyro effect and caused the crash.

It seems like he had to have picked up a rock in the rotor at just the worst time…. I hope the team reports what happened, but don’t expect them to.

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He was front end high. While I agree with most of what you said, the front wheel being stopped should have brought that front end down...

He was front end high. While I agree with most of what you said, the front wheel being stopped should have brought that front end down. That has always happened in my experience when the front end stops. 

I think he saw he was going past HUnter and overcooked it hitting the jump cross rutting and front end high and grabbed the brakes off the face. Thats why he landed with the front wheel sideways and not rotating.

The side force caused the front end forks and axle to flex sideways bending the rotor. When he 1st went to take off the wheel turned a little then stopped and he went down again.

BTW the first take off crash was scary with how his wrist took the fall and his brain going WTF just happened !!!

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8/10/2025 10:16am

I thought I was watching a replay of his Pala crash. They looked almost identical.

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8/10/2025 10:17am Edited Date/Time 8/10/2025 10:27am
Press516 wrote:
No, the front wheel locked on the takeoff of the jump.  He unexpectedly lost gyro effect and caused the crash.It seems like he had to have...

No, the front wheel locked on the takeoff of the jump.  He unexpectedly lost gyro effect and caused the crash.

It seems like he had to have picked up a rock in the rotor at just the worst time…. I hope the team reports what happened, but don’t expect them to.

Tiki wrote:
He was front end high. While I agree with most of what you said, the front wheel being stopped should have brought that front end down...

He was front end high. While I agree with most of what you said, the front wheel being stopped should have brought that front end down. That has always happened in my experience when the front end stops. 

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I think he saw he was going past HUnter and overcooked it hitting the jump cross rutting and front end high and grabbed the brakes off...

I think he saw he was going past HUnter and overcooked it hitting the jump cross rutting and front end high and grabbed the brakes off the face. Thats why he landed with the front wheel sideways and not rotating.

The side force caused the front end forks and axle to flex sideways bending the rotor. When he 1st went to take off the wheel turned a little then stopped and he went down again.

BTW the first take off crash was scary with how his wrist took the fall and his brain going WTF just happened !!!

I believe you are mostly correct but on the landing and it being sidwards force I think it destroyed the bearings or broke the axle. I don’t think the rim flexed enough to have the rotor contact the ground and the rotor is attached to the hub so it getting bent would be a stretch. 

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8/10/2025 10:33am

After just rewatching the replay. You can see the wheel make maybe a quarter of rotation has he leaves the jump then completely locked up. If you watch him go through the ruts in the face you see a cloud of dirt go up maybe 2 feet before take off. Either bent  rotor or debris.  He lost gyro effect immediately. No rider of Chases caliber grabs a front brake and holds it till he lands that’s the stupidest shit I’ve ever heard.

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Depends on how bent the rotor is. 

Hell it could be the axle is bent too. Im not a metal expert but Dont they use thin walled titanium for axles?

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lumpy790 wrote:
Depends on how bent the rotor is. Hell it could be the axle is bent too. Im not a metal expert but Dont they use thin walled...

Depends on how bent the rotor is. 

Hell it could be the axle is bent too. Im not a metal expert but Dont they use thin walled titanium for axles?

It isn't from a bent rotor. The piston seized on the front brake due to mud packing and heat.  It has happened to so many local people it isn't funny, also why they run disc guards to help prevent. In this case, it could have been helped by his earlier tip over, but more than likely just packing of mud and the deep mulched soil with debris.  

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These theories that involve him intentionally grabbing front brake off a jump because he was out of shape are wild to me. That is not a thing that a novice with any amount of muscle memory is going to do on a jump face no matter how out of shape they are. I do not find it plausible that a professional grabbed enough front brake to lock it up on a jump face, even sexton with his history of inexplicable crashes. 

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8/10/2025 11:28am

kudos to Lewis for not only asking point blank about the issue with Chase...but furthermore asked about how silly the moto-media is and trying to create more transparency between the teams and the media (video is posted on homepage)

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Not sure, haven’t heard anything about it. His front wheel wasn’t turning before he landed. James seemed to think it was rider error. 

James is an idiot.... brake locked going up the face!

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This is what Google AI says… lol      Chase Sexton crashed at the 2025 Ironman National in the second 450 moto, after briefly holding the overall win. The crash occurred when his front brake appeared to lock up, causing him to go down. The exact cause of the brake lock-up is still under investigation, but it's thought to be related to debris from the track getting into the brake system. 

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I was over right outside ktm pits right when bike got bike.  Looked to me like a rear brake issue also and based on what interactions I saw the KTM team.

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I don’t care for how Chase handled the situation by dumping the bike and especially walking past his mechanIc Jade. I get that the bike may have been unrideable, but you at least stop and talk with your mechanic for a second. Imagine if Jade just walked past and ignored Chase after he had one of his weirdo crashes. 

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The KTM group has had a lot of brake issues this year... Sexton and Barcia in SX, Beaumer and Sexton outdoors. Didn't Ryder D lose his brake too at GH stopwatch nationals and that's what caused him to go flying over the berm into the fence?

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The KTM group has had a lot of brake issues this year... Sexton and Barcia in SX, Beaumer and Sexton outdoors. Didn't Ryder D lose his...

The KTM group has had a lot of brake issues this year... Sexton and Barcia in SX, Beaumer and Sexton outdoors. Didn't Ryder D lose his brake too at GH stopwatch nationals and that's what caused him to go flying over the berm into the fence?

Be plenty more now that owned by India company and old suppliers got screwed in bankruptcy settlement.

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Not sure, haven’t heard anything about it. His front wheel wasn’t turning before he landed. James seemed to think it was rider error. 

And I immediately thought James was wrong. He didn't have the benefit of perspective.Chase's front wheel was locked up going up the face of the jump...

And I immediately thought James was wrong. He didn't have the benefit of perspective.

Chase's front wheel was locked up going up the face of the jump. If I had to guess, a rock got wedged in the caliper just as he left the face of the jump. Amazing he kept the bike as level as he did. 

Yeah, I would’ve went flying 50 feet into the air and needed a heli ride outta there.

Not only was that crazy skill to even maintain control of the bike, but tough fella to get right back up from that.

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8/10/2025 12:40pm
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I don’t care for how Chase handled the situation by dumping the bike and especially walking past his mechanIc Jade. I get that the bike may...

I don’t care for how Chase handled the situation by dumping the bike and especially walking past his mechanIc Jade. I get that the bike may have been unrideable, but you at least stop and talk with your mechanic for a second. Imagine if Jade just walked past and ignored Chase after he had one of his weirdo crashes. 

We know Chase wants to leave the Team. So perhaps there are more reasons other than him not gelling with the bike. If he feels like they did not doing something that could have prevented the issue , perhaps he has complained about a similar issue before that went unfixed . 

I could understand being really mad about what just happened. And sometimes when You are very mad , its much better to cool off before saying anything.

 

 It looked like it was locked before it left the ground, which is gonna do something else. Team Greens explanation sounds like the most educated guess to me as to why it was locked up on takeoff.  

 

  It was so strange to see him struggle like that. Almost like he expected the problem to go away. Or be able to over power it by giving it more gas.  He tried harder than most would have to get the bike off the track. If I had crashed like that they would have red flagged the moto to pick me up off the track.

  It reminded me of a series of crashes I had after hitting my head. I got up right away after I had a 4th gear crash in sand whoops . When I got up I fell to one side, got right back up and fell to the other, did it 3 or 4 times before somebody stopped me from riding.  In my case I just couldn't balance because of the hit I took, my bike was rideable. I don't think that's what happened to Chace, it just felt similar to my crash in the ways he fell multiple times.  Its the only time I can say that something Chase has done has reminded me of my own riding.

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8/10/2025 12:44pm Edited Date/Time 8/10/2025 12:44pm

Front end high off a jump almost always screams locked up front brake on the face of said jump 😜

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The best explanation is.. The bike was banged up!

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