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So they went line by line and decided to raise the price of a helmet $100? (That cost them ~$50)…
It’s gouging and using tariffs as an excuse..
A lot of price gouging going on for sure. I've become more frugal with how much harder it is to stretch your dollar so when i recently got back into riding my first source for gear was Ebay. A lot of free shipping and you can defiantly find damn good deals on all the gear brands. I also see it as if someone has something new and desperately need to sale it and there's a make offer option you can get it at even a better deal. I hate politics and I know its the rich trying to eat the poor and a massive subject that way more people are educated in so if its out of my price range I always go to Ebay to search and you never know what deals you may find on there. Just my input
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You do realize R&D, marketing/athlete sponsorship, and day to day operating costs are rolled into the cost of that "50 dollar helmet" don't you? Might be $50 to actually manufacture, but I bet the margins aren't as big as you think they are when factoring in all of the above.
Common ground will be found about the same time Jett Lawrence signs for Bultaco.
We are as divided as they come, and as much as it hurts to say it I do not see it getting any better for a long time.
I guarantee if the other side won we’d be looking at over $4.00 national average gas plus expiring tax cuts and higher inflation. I also got a $4/hr raise in the construction industry due to reinvesting in American natural gas. My tax rebate on overtime should make a $40 increase in my mx gear purchase minuscule. Most economic “experts” predicted a global recession by now and they’re getting humiliated every week.
I can’t buy small sheet metal parts for my work for less than $50…pretty sure there is more than $50 in helmet
THE OTHER SIDE SUCKS!
exactly!!!! I got an $11k tax break from those cuts. I can choose not to buy something that is tariffed, I can not choose to not pay taxes. I think I will take what we have now over the cluster fuck that we had for the past 4 years.
I ordered some Renen gear too! Great company, but they don’t make boots or helmets and I still dig the Alpinestars stuff.
Most people making under 300k won’t see anything extra
Perfect!
There aren’t 2 sides. There are hundreds of differing opinions and perspectives.
Any adult wearing a t shirt or hat with their favorite politician on it like a sports team is a kook. On “either” side.
We’re all humans and there aren’t sides. There are Americans living in America with different lifestyles and cultures and interests and we should all want each other to be successful, happy and stable. Everybody needs to quit trying to stick it to each other and admit that the people they idolized are weirdos and liars and don’t have working class folks best interest in mind.
I am the working class. There was 2 options last go around and the band of freaks that never ran a real business or reduced the price of a pack of gum lost handily. I forgot “opportunity economy.”There was zero plan to reduce any cost or tax. Let another 10 million in. Keep status quo with China. Not secure 10 Trillion in foreign investment in the US. Keep hiring foreign workers instead of US ones. Our economic outlook and optimism is way higher than it would be if Cackles had any power. My yearly fuel cost between gasoline and propane will be far lower than any increased cost in my motorcycle budget with this administration. My beef and egg budget savings will probably pay for another set of tires.
"Tariffs are harmful not only because they raise prices and restrict trade, but because they encourage government intervention and economic nationalism, which are the antithesis of freedom."
- Milton Friedman.
You realise your President is an economic nationalist right?
Felt like pissing in the wind today so here goes: what do you think you can buy that will not become more expensive for US customers due to tariffs?
My guess is that's a pretty short list but please have a go.
Made in USA does not necessarily mean you can escape cost increase due to tariff: you might not directly pay the tax on some items but in the process of making it, the supplier certainly is, and he still needs to make money, right?
Raw materials are taxed (which items are made with 100% US materials?), manufacturing tools, machines and electronics are taxed (which company owns 100% US made tools?), so US manufacturing cost increases.
Fertilizers and animal food are taxed, so farmer's cost increases, homegrown veggies and meat price goes up. Then of course there's all the food the US import (about 2 thirds of fruits and 1 third of veggies are imported, obviously coffee, cocoa...), price goes up as well.
If you really wish to buy US made with 100% US parts or materials made you already can. Not for anything too fancy like cars or motorcycles. But you can already buy $12 socks made in Iowa, $20 socks made in Vermont or $25 socks made in North Carolina. Are you? Tariff impact on their price should be limited since most (not all) of their materials come from the US. OTOH tariffs won't make them competitive price-wise with $3 socks at Target.
If most Americans are not currently buying expensive US made socks, would they buy anything repatriated in the USA or would they stick to the affordable overseas version (that would still be cheaper after tariffs due to huge labor cost difference)?
“You have very visible beneficiaries—steel workers whose jobs are saved, perhaps temporarily. But the costs are invisible: dispersed among millions who pay higher prices and have fewer choices. That’s the political logic of tariffs.”
- Milton Friedman.
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This is a quote from the old school Unadilla times. It is purely motocross. Some people got it, others did not.
I just wanted to weed out the core moto bros.... You can put that one into your notebook Mr. Facts.
Of course I do- I work for a company that has $500M+ spend on material, supplier parts, etc and I can assure you they are price gouging on a helmet…
Again, inflation is at 2.7%, down from 7-9%. That is a fact…So again, it’s price gouging, but keep making excuses..
Lol that's a damn lie and you know it. Nobody said anything even remotely close to that.
Oh brother.
https://archive.ph/2025.07.16-220517/https://www.ft.com/content/82e32f7c-47e2-4e96-bb53-a58377e18aa9
From the article….
“US revenues from customs duties hit a record high of $64bn in the second quarter — $47bn more than over the same period last year, according to data published by the US Treasury on Friday.”
“The cost of Trump’s tariffs are also not falling solely on American consumers, supply chain experts say, as international brands look to spread the impact of cost increases around the globe to minimize the impact on the US market.”
“China’s retaliatory tariffs on American imports, the most sustained and significant of any country, have not had the same effect, with overall income from custom duties only 1.9 per cent higher in May 2025 than the year before.”
“Simon Geale, executive vice-president at Proxima, a supply chain consultancy owned by Bain & Company, said big brands such as Apple, Adidas and Mercedes would look to mitigate the impact of price increases.
Economists said the US’s dominant position as the world’s largest consumer market, coupled with Trump’s threats to redouble tariffs on states that defy him, meant that for most countries the decision to “chicken out” was not cowardice, but economic common sense.”
You do realize that despite inflation going down, the costs still went up, right? They're now 2.7% higher than the 7-9% higher they were previously (per your example).
So if something was $1 at the beginning, then 9% inflation came along, it then cost $1.09. Then 2.7% came along and now it costs $1.12 (it doesn't now cost $1.03).
So can you explain how the inflation numbers support your price gouging argument?
The items that are on the shelf today, were shipped into distributors weeks or months ago, and then take time to get to the dealers and end user. Also there is a lot of markup on gear from its raw state to the finished retail price. Its not as simple as everything going up the same amount as the tariff. If anything the amount it goes up by tells you more about the raw unbranded products wholesale costs .
The price of gear includes what they pay racers to wear it, liability insurance, advertising, reps pay, etc. So much goes into every product that contributes to its price. The price of finished the gear itself is only a small part of the end price. The bigger the brand name, the more riders they sponsor, the bigger contracts, advertising etc the more cost comes from that than the item itself.
A company may have to raise prices by 15% over its entire product line to have the same overall margins. But tariffs may be more or less on some of those products.
No matter how you look at it making the importing process cost more will make the product cost more. And it will impact the smaller companies who base the retail more on the cost of the product themselves and less of it coming from the branding.
Its funny the other day I was at walmart and was looking at prices and I was thinking "Wow they are going down, how is this possible?". Then I started to look at stuff I was familiar with the pricing more long term and it was all just BS. The WAS $15.99 now $12.95 price was really closer to $10.99 before. And they just put those little tags there to help me feel good about paying more, make me feel like I was saving money.
Just about EVERY distributor I work with has raised prices and has said it is because of tariffs . That is the truth, the real facts. And all those increases get passed down to the end user and YOU, not the country who exports the item's are paying that tariff. Some have a column on the invoice that shows what I am paying towards the tariff, and as they change that number has changed.
Sure- if you go back to the original post he said the price of the helmet increased from $729 —> $839 because of tariffs..that’s more than 2.7%…(which is approx what my company is seeing across the board in increased costs this year)..
And as much as the anti-Trumpers wanted prices to jump and the economy crash due to tariffs…fact is, that’s not reality. And they’ve conceded as much. You certainly don’t hear anything about the stock market now..
Also, my company has an initiative to move out of China and source more from the US…moving more production (high paying jobs) back to the US. Many US companies are also demanding more products they purchase be made in the US..all good things..especially for US made products.
On a similar topic, I’d like to hear your opinion on China, particularly their continued ignoring/stealing of patents, stealing IP…etc. Have you experienced this with your product and how would you feel if they copied your designs and sold at a fraction of the cost?
It’s not just the US rate that matters.
I think I got it figured out / working!
I think we need to reserve judgment until time passes. Large scale economic changes happen very slowly. We likely won’t know the full affects of these tariffs until late 2026-2027. Just my opinion.
Where is the inflation going down info coming from ? The government they lie about everything. I don’t see the price of anything go down. I see all the prices going up . Orders on everything is down but beer. We only had 1 1/2 yrs since 07 to make any money in trucking . It’s sucks big time now wages drop when there is no freight . Less wages less freight less money . But crazy expensive to be on the rd . Super numb leg, foot from Thursday injection yet . I hv more apts
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