Anderson to HEP ?

7/21/2025 10:09am

Same program as Paturel.

Ok, well that’s more interesting because he’s a much better rider than Paturel.

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7/21/2025 10:21am

Anderson and Roczen for indoors only, someone like Vlaanderen for outdoors only, hmm...

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Not sure what Anderson has left in the tank. Would like to see continue and HEP with Kenny would be cool to see. 

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Checked this weekend, Anderson to HEP isn’t done yet.

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Any word of Prado and Kawi parting ways? 

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tahoefd wrote:

Thought that Anderson and Roczen were not the best of buddies. I suppose they don't have to hang out together. Would be interesting team dynamics....

Idk why you would think that, when kenny won Indy sx 2023 and  glendale 2024  Anderson was one of the first riders to congratulate him right after the race on the track.

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7/21/2025 8:37pm
tahoefd wrote:

Thought that Anderson and Roczen were not the best of buddies. I suppose they don't have to hang out together. Would be interesting team dynamics....

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Idk why you would think that, when kenny won Indy sx 2023 and  glendale 2024  Anderson was one of the first riders to congratulate him right...

Idk why you would think that, when kenny won Indy sx 2023 and  glendale 2024  Anderson was one of the first riders to congratulate him right after the race on the track.

Guess I'm still picturing Anderson taking Roczen out, over the berm and leaving him in the dirt. Don't remember the race (SX), but sure do remember lots of folks getting all fired up over that pass. Maybe these guys don't take it as personal as us keyboard racers.😜

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7/21/2025 8:59pm
tahoefd wrote:
Guess I'm still picturing Anderson taking Roczen out, over the berm and leaving him in the dirt. Don't remember the race (SX), but sure do remember...

Guess I'm still picturing Anderson taking Roczen out, over the berm and leaving him in the dirt. Don't remember the race (SX), but sure do remember lots of folks getting all fired up over that pass. Maybe these guys don't take it as personal as us keyboard racers.😜

You're probably thinking of A2 in the sand.

2019 Glendale

2022 A2 

2022 San Diego

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gDJuLeEvUTg&pp=ygUiQW5kZXJzb24gdGFrZXMgb3V0IFJvY3plbiBnbGVuZGFsZQ%3D%3D 

Side Note: They need to bring back whoops like in the first clip. 

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They talked about this a little bit last night on PulpMX. Should be time stamped but if not, go to 2:27:23

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMkkYK-49SU&t=14355s

Basically seems like what I posted earlier in the thread but it sounds like HEP is waiting on how much support they can get from Suzuki in hopes to sign both Roczen and Anderson. Roczen is the priority but Anderson to HEP also still sounds likely.

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tahoefd wrote:
Guess I'm still picturing Anderson taking Roczen out, over the berm and leaving him in the dirt. Don't remember the race (SX), but sure do remember...

Guess I'm still picturing Anderson taking Roczen out, over the berm and leaving him in the dirt. Don't remember the race (SX), but sure do remember lots of folks getting all fired up over that pass. Maybe these guys don't take it as personal as us keyboard racers.😜

-MAVERICK- wrote:

You're probably thinking of A2 in the sand.

2019 Glendale

2022 A2 

2022 San Diego

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gDJuLeEvUTg&pp=ygUiQW5kZXJzb24gdGFrZXMgb3V0IFJvY3plbiBnbGVuZGFsZQ%3D%3D 

Side Note: They need to bring back whoops like in the first clip. 

Yeah it was the San Diego in the sand pass that I was thinking of. That face full of sand!!! Ugh! Thanks for the clip.

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7/24/2025 9:13am

still no  word on this ride for ando ?.

would love to see him on yellow @a1 

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7/24/2025 10:03am

i'm sure it's been posted, but DB's latest pod basically says JA to HEP is a done deal. FWIW.

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7/24/2025 10:18am Edited Date/Time 7/24/2025 10:20am
RACING wrote:

Yeah, he needs HE(L)P.

Whoever told Roczen to get on TRT or similar has been a godsend for him. Jason needs it too and I hope that same person that convinced Roczen to go on it convinces Jason. 

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7/24/2025 11:34am
RACING wrote:

Yeah, he needs HE(L)P.

Whoever told Roczen to get on TRT or similar has been a godsend for him. Jason needs it too and I hope that same person that...

Whoever told Roczen to get on TRT or similar has been a godsend for him. Jason needs it too and I hope that same person that convinced Roczen to go on it convinces Jason. 

TRT isn't a banned substance?

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7/25/2025 2:40am
Radical wrote:

TRT isn't a banned substance?

Is anything banned in the off season? 

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7/25/2025 2:44am

I bet his Alpinestars contract pays him a lot more if he's on a "factory" team. If Suzuki falls thru there is always factory Beta 

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motokiwi wrote:

I bet his Alpinestars contract pays him a lot more if he's on a "factory" team. If Suzuki falls thru there is always factory Beta 

Beta is full with Benny and Oldenberg. 

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7/25/2025 8:13am
motokiwi wrote:

I bet his Alpinestars contract pays him a lot more if he's on a "factory" team. If Suzuki falls thru there is always factory Beta 

Where do you come up with this shit? LOL

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7/25/2025 8:38am Edited Date/Time 7/25/2025 8:39am
Conkey wrote:

Where do you come up with this shit? LOL

Because I have forgotten more about moto than you will ever learn: I remember someone on here who was in the industry saying thst Alpinestars have a specific contract thst pays bonuses for years after a championship, and the bonuses stack if you get multiple championships. But if I recall correctly: that bonuses structure goes away if the rider is not on a factory team.

- I believe some redbull riders also have a clause that says their salary is reduced if they aren't on a factory team

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motokiwi wrote:
Because I have forgotten more about moto than you will ever learn: I remember someone on here who was in the industry saying thst Alpinestars have...

Because I have forgotten more about moto than you will ever learn: I remember someone on here who was in the industry saying thst Alpinestars have a specific contract thst pays bonuses for years after a championship, and the bonuses stack if you get multiple championships. But if I recall correctly: that bonuses structure goes away if the rider is not on a factory team.

- I believe some redbull riders also have a clause that says their salary is reduced if they aren't on a factory team

Beta’s are great, and their output is fantastic, but the execs at Alpinestars realize Ecstar Progressive Suzuki is just as factory as the current Liqui Moly Beta team. I know they’re different riders, but I believe Kenny’s Fox contract didn’t drastically change when he signed with Yellow

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7/25/2025 8:45am Edited Date/Time 7/25/2025 8:47am
dnolder15 wrote:
I think its happening, heard he declined club mx because he wants to stay on the west coast. Not sure if its a multi year deal...

I think its happening, heard he declined club mx because he wants to stay on the west coast. Not sure if its a multi year deal, but there will be an all new RMZ in '27. Suzuki wanted to focus on the street bikes for '26, that's why we only saw minor changes on the RMZ for '26.

He never declined Club because there was never an offer from Club. 

 Club couldn’t get the backing from Yamaha and some other sponsors to give him the support he required. Plus they are an FXR team and he wants to stay with Alpinestar 


Also, he will most likely sign with HEP, but he isn’t yet.  

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7/25/2025 8:49am
Radical wrote:

TRT isn't a banned substance?

motokiwi wrote:

Is anything banned in the off season? 

Not sure if you're just being obtuse, but yes, there is supposed to be a testing program though it doesn't seem like it's really much of a worry after the split with WADA. They were supposed to adhere to the same WADA rules/regs and handle the testing in house as far as I know 

 

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7/25/2025 8:51am
Conkey wrote:

Where do you come up with this shit? LOL

motokiwi wrote:
Because I have forgotten more about moto than you will ever learn: I remember someone on here who was in the industry saying thst Alpinestars have...

Because I have forgotten more about moto than you will ever learn: I remember someone on here who was in the industry saying thst Alpinestars have a specific contract thst pays bonuses for years after a championship, and the bonuses stack if you get multiple championships. But if I recall correctly: that bonuses structure goes away if the rider is not on a factory team.

- I believe some redbull riders also have a clause that says their salary is reduced if they aren't on a factory team

Most gear deals have a factory clause written in them, if you’re not on a factory team, your pay and bonuses get cut. 

. Dylan Fersanchez lost Thor even tho he had another year on his deal because he was going to a private team, and he had a factory only clause in his contract. 

 I couldn’t tell you if that’s how it works at Redbull, but it worked that way at Monster. 

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7/25/2025 8:51am
JazzyJJ wrote:
Not sure if you're just being obtuse, but yes, there is supposed to be a testing program though it doesn't seem like it's really much of...

Not sure if you're just being obtuse, but yes, there is supposed to be a testing program though it doesn't seem like it's really much of a worry after the split with WADA. They were supposed to adhere to the same WADA rules/regs and handle the testing in house as far as I know 

 

A great man once said: the only real laws are the laws of physics.

 

The amount of riders that come back with extra pep in their step is getting more and more common

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7/25/2025 9:02am
RACING wrote:

Yeah, he needs HE(L)P.

Whoever told Roczen to get on TRT or similar has been a godsend for him. Jason needs it too and I hope that same person that...

Whoever told Roczen to get on TRT or similar has been a godsend for him. Jason needs it too and I hope that same person that convinced Roczen to go on it convinces Jason. 

Radical wrote:

TRT isn't a banned substance?

Not with a TUE. 

 But most take another drug that easier to get with a TUE and doesn’t look like testosterone 

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People really sleep on him lately, including himself. I hope he gets back to his 2022 or 2023 days (whichever year him and Tomac went at it). Hopefully the Suzuki works well for him

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jettlover wrote:
People really sleep on him lately, including himself. I hope he gets back to his 2022 or 2023 days (whichever year him and Tomac went at...

People really sleep on him lately, including himself. I hope he gets back to his 2022 or 2023 days (whichever year him and Tomac went at it). Hopefully the Suzuki works well for him

Agreed. My favorite rider in the series whether he's on or not. 2022 was a sick year, would love to see him back there.

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Agreed. My favorite rider in the series whether he's on or not. 2022 was a sick year, would love to see him back there.

If I’m not mistaken he has a similar number of wins as Chase in SX. 

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7/25/2025 10:23am
JazzyJJ wrote:
Not sure if you're just being obtuse, but yes, there is supposed to be a testing program though it doesn't seem like it's really much of...

Not sure if you're just being obtuse, but yes, there is supposed to be a testing program though it doesn't seem like it's really much of a worry after the split with WADA. They were supposed to adhere to the same WADA rules/regs and handle the testing in house as far as I know 

 

motokiwi wrote:
A great man once said: the only real laws are the laws of physics. The amount of riders that come back with extra pep in their step...

A great man once said: the only real laws are the laws of physics.

 

The amount of riders that come back with extra pep in their step is getting more and more common

Sure, I've posted here many times that I think the large percentage of high level pro athletes are taking things that are technically against the rules.

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