The dream

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Chase your dream and one way or the other you will never regret trying.

I raced my 1st 500 national at Red Bud in 1984 and qualified but was busted up after that so never qualified for the big show again. That day will always be a highlight in my lifetime memories.

My first question is do you have the A class MX results and points required to get moved up to be a licensed AMA Pro?

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7/16/2025 10:07pm Edited Date/Time 7/16/2025 10:08pm

Life’s short do the thing, I was “retired” from riding permanently a few weeks ago just as I was fully getting back into it, don’t end up like me and go do it now rather than later 

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Tyler D wrote:

need to see your road racing results and form to say for sure. pics vids?

At risk of doxxing myself... I've podiumed and won MotoAmerica races, wildcard at the Indy GP on a 125... twice. And raced the Red Bull MotoGP Rookies Cup way back in the day. Raced for M4 Suzuki at one point.. 

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Adam43 wrote:
Chasing the dream at a certain age is like the dog chasing the car. What's your plan if you catch it?That's not to say don't do...

Chasing the dream at a certain age is like the dog chasing the car. What's your plan if you catch it?

That's not to say don't do it, but if you are constrained by resources, time, or talent - you have to be very intentional in your process.

I'd advise you to try to win a local race first, and go from there. 

 

HondaSM wrote:
If you had any idea the screen name I'm hiding behind... this isn't a stretch really. I'm one of the fastest local A riders since I...

If you had any idea the screen name I'm hiding behind... this isn't a stretch really. I'm one of the fastest local A riders since I was a teenager. It was just never a focus of mine until lately. My plan is to get the license and take that to go do a couple rounds every year until I'm too old to do so. My end goal would be to qualify for a race but if I could just earn the license I would be ok

APLMAN99 wrote:
For the record, I hope you achieve this goal!Just wondering if this means you have been racing MX all along?  Your first post was confusing because...

For the record, I hope you achieve this goal!

Just wondering if this means you have been racing MX all along?  Your first post was confusing because it sounded like you stopped when you were a kid but then you talked about a local guy that you always smoked, were you talking about 20ish years ago or are you currently racing him?

I guess I did word that part badly. I never truly stopped riding moto. I just stopped pursuing that dream at 12 and went after the road racing dream. I always used moto as a training tool and grew up going riding with a local pro every weekend. I've spent the last 20 years riding for fun for the most part but over the last 5 years realized I was still getting faster. I've done a lot of off road racing with the fastest guys around and never stopped trying to learn how to go fast. I think the length of the offroad races helped me a lot as well. This isn't just something I jumped back into. Just something I want to take serious for a little while

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aees wrote:
I agree. If you have a history of crashing when young at pro speed its not just going away.Only way you avoid that is typically keeping speed...

I agree. 

If you have a history of crashing when young at pro speed its not just going away.

Only way you avoid that is typically keeping speed and intensity to non professional level.

HondaSM wrote:
A lot of assumption going on... We're talking about a bad year I had over 20 years ago. At no point have I said I had...

A lot of assumption going on... We're talking about a bad year I had over 20 years ago. At no point have I said I had a crashing problem or that I have concussion problems. I got 3 concussions within a year while still racing 65s, two of which were mostly out of my control, and my dad made the proper decision to find something else to do. I then spent the next 15 years becoming a successful road racer and learning a shit ton about riding motorcycles that has transferred back to dirt over the years getting me to a level I was never at before. I think the few people trying to discourage me from this are just feeding the fire lol

You mentioned concussions. Ok, let's take that out of the equation. There's 2 people recently that never stopped racing. One is no longer alive tragically (Zingg)...

You mentioned concussions. Ok, let's take that out of the equation. There's 2 people recently that never stopped racing. One is no longer alive tragically (Zingg), the other is now unable to walk (Robin). Every time you throw a leg over a bike that is a realistic possibility. At 33 unless you start going top 5 speed, any chance of making money where your family could be financially secure (factory contract) is a complete pipe dream. Some really fast guys on YouTube capture life as a privateer and it's gnarly and rough (Jeff Walker and Matt Burkeen) so again I mention hubris because the amount of risk (becoming paralyzed or disabled) due to a motocross racing injury you become an absolute burden for your family. And for what? Just to say "I got my pro card!" 

I'm sorry I'm not going to pump sunshine up your ass. But the path to pro moto is long strenuous, and brutal. So much so that some guys don't even like dirt bikes after they're done (Villopoto) 

If you make it unscathed and accomplish your goals, great. That would be a huge feat. Being realistic is not being "weird or negative"

This is such a weird reply. You keep talking to me like I am new to the sport and haven't been doing this for 30 years at a relatively high level. 

Here's one for you! A good buddy of mine down around Miami hopped on 95 the other night and was hit by a drunk driver going the wrong way. We take a risk every single time we decide to leave the house for the day. Dane Westby was one of the most talented road racers to throw a leg over a bike and was killed in his hometown on the street when a car pulled out in front of him. Tommy Aquino was a factory road racer who was killed on a moto track during a practice day when someone else whisky throttled over a berm and hit him head on. I can keep going but the reality is, I have never stopped riding, I don't plan on ever stopping and the risk is already there if I'm spending my weekends riding as hard as I can anyways. I've yet to see you bring up a solid point that I haven't already considered over the last 5 years of contemplating doing this

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7/17/2025 5:48am

Just do it, that way later in life you can say you tried.

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aees wrote:
I agree. If you have a history of crashing when young at pro speed its not just going away.Only way you avoid that is typically keeping speed...

I agree. 

If you have a history of crashing when young at pro speed its not just going away.

Only way you avoid that is typically keeping speed and intensity to non professional level.

HondaSM wrote:
A lot of assumption going on... We're talking about a bad year I had over 20 years ago. At no point have I said I had...

A lot of assumption going on... We're talking about a bad year I had over 20 years ago. At no point have I said I had a crashing problem or that I have concussion problems. I got 3 concussions within a year while still racing 65s, two of which were mostly out of my control, and my dad made the proper decision to find something else to do. I then spent the next 15 years becoming a successful road racer and learning a shit ton about riding motorcycles that has transferred back to dirt over the years getting me to a level I was never at before. I think the few people trying to discourage me from this are just feeding the fire lol

You mentioned concussions. Ok, let's take that out of the equation. There's 2 people recently that never stopped racing. One is no longer alive tragically (Zingg)...

You mentioned concussions. Ok, let's take that out of the equation. There's 2 people recently that never stopped racing. One is no longer alive tragically (Zingg), the other is now unable to walk (Robin). Every time you throw a leg over a bike that is a realistic possibility. At 33 unless you start going top 5 speed, any chance of making money where your family could be financially secure (factory contract) is a complete pipe dream. Some really fast guys on YouTube capture life as a privateer and it's gnarly and rough (Jeff Walker and Matt Burkeen) so again I mention hubris because the amount of risk (becoming paralyzed or disabled) due to a motocross racing injury you become an absolute burden for your family. And for what? Just to say "I got my pro card!" 

I'm sorry I'm not going to pump sunshine up your ass. But the path to pro moto is long strenuous, and brutal. So much so that some guys don't even like dirt bikes after they're done (Villopoto) 

If you make it unscathed and accomplish your goals, great. That would be a huge feat. Being realistic is not being "weird or negative"

I think that you are projecting what your goal would be (factory contract) in place of what his stated goal would be. He seems to be very aware that this would not be an income source or career, but instead it would be a personal challenge to accomplish just to be able to enter a National level pro race in a different motorcycle discipline than he already has. 

He might actually have less risk than some people have at local races, really. 

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7/17/2025 8:52am
HondaSM wrote:
A lot of assumption going on... We're talking about a bad year I had over 20 years ago. At no point have I said I had...

A lot of assumption going on... We're talking about a bad year I had over 20 years ago. At no point have I said I had a crashing problem or that I have concussion problems. I got 3 concussions within a year while still racing 65s, two of which were mostly out of my control, and my dad made the proper decision to find something else to do. I then spent the next 15 years becoming a successful road racer and learning a shit ton about riding motorcycles that has transferred back to dirt over the years getting me to a level I was never at before. I think the few people trying to discourage me from this are just feeding the fire lol

You mentioned concussions. Ok, let's take that out of the equation. There's 2 people recently that never stopped racing. One is no longer alive tragically (Zingg)...

You mentioned concussions. Ok, let's take that out of the equation. There's 2 people recently that never stopped racing. One is no longer alive tragically (Zingg), the other is now unable to walk (Robin). Every time you throw a leg over a bike that is a realistic possibility. At 33 unless you start going top 5 speed, any chance of making money where your family could be financially secure (factory contract) is a complete pipe dream. Some really fast guys on YouTube capture life as a privateer and it's gnarly and rough (Jeff Walker and Matt Burkeen) so again I mention hubris because the amount of risk (becoming paralyzed or disabled) due to a motocross racing injury you become an absolute burden for your family. And for what? Just to say "I got my pro card!" 

I'm sorry I'm not going to pump sunshine up your ass. But the path to pro moto is long strenuous, and brutal. So much so that some guys don't even like dirt bikes after they're done (Villopoto) 

If you make it unscathed and accomplish your goals, great. That would be a huge feat. Being realistic is not being "weird or negative"

APLMAN99 wrote:
I think that you are projecting what your goal would be (factory contract) in place of what his stated goal would be. He seems to be...

I think that you are projecting what your goal would be (factory contract) in place of what his stated goal would be. He seems to be very aware that this would not be an income source or career, but instead it would be a personal challenge to accomplish just to be able to enter a National level pro race in a different motorcycle discipline than he already has. 

He might actually have less risk than some people have at local races, really. 

How this got to "Factory Ride" from "pro card" is quite puzzling. 

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HondaSM wrote:
A lot of assumption going on... We're talking about a bad year I had over 20 years ago. At no point have I said I had...

A lot of assumption going on... We're talking about a bad year I had over 20 years ago. At no point have I said I had a crashing problem or that I have concussion problems. I got 3 concussions within a year while still racing 65s, two of which were mostly out of my control, and my dad made the proper decision to find something else to do. I then spent the next 15 years becoming a successful road racer and learning a shit ton about riding motorcycles that has transferred back to dirt over the years getting me to a level I was never at before. I think the few people trying to discourage me from this are just feeding the fire lol

You mentioned concussions. Ok, let's take that out of the equation. There's 2 people recently that never stopped racing. One is no longer alive tragically (Zingg)...

You mentioned concussions. Ok, let's take that out of the equation. There's 2 people recently that never stopped racing. One is no longer alive tragically (Zingg), the other is now unable to walk (Robin). Every time you throw a leg over a bike that is a realistic possibility. At 33 unless you start going top 5 speed, any chance of making money where your family could be financially secure (factory contract) is a complete pipe dream. Some really fast guys on YouTube capture life as a privateer and it's gnarly and rough (Jeff Walker and Matt Burkeen) so again I mention hubris because the amount of risk (becoming paralyzed or disabled) due to a motocross racing injury you become an absolute burden for your family. And for what? Just to say "I got my pro card!" 

I'm sorry I'm not going to pump sunshine up your ass. But the path to pro moto is long strenuous, and brutal. So much so that some guys don't even like dirt bikes after they're done (Villopoto) 

If you make it unscathed and accomplish your goals, great. That would be a huge feat. Being realistic is not being "weird or negative"

APLMAN99 wrote:
I think that you are projecting what your goal would be (factory contract) in place of what his stated goal would be. He seems to be...

I think that you are projecting what your goal would be (factory contract) in place of what his stated goal would be. He seems to be very aware that this would not be an income source or career, but instead it would be a personal challenge to accomplish just to be able to enter a National level pro race in a different motorcycle discipline than he already has. 

He might actually have less risk than some people have at local races, really. 

I'm glad someone here is level headed and has common sense 😂

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You mentioned concussions. Ok, let's take that out of the equation. There's 2 people recently that never stopped racing. One is no longer alive tragically (Zingg)...

You mentioned concussions. Ok, let's take that out of the equation. There's 2 people recently that never stopped racing. One is no longer alive tragically (Zingg), the other is now unable to walk (Robin). Every time you throw a leg over a bike that is a realistic possibility. At 33 unless you start going top 5 speed, any chance of making money where your family could be financially secure (factory contract) is a complete pipe dream. Some really fast guys on YouTube capture life as a privateer and it's gnarly and rough (Jeff Walker and Matt Burkeen) so again I mention hubris because the amount of risk (becoming paralyzed or disabled) due to a motocross racing injury you become an absolute burden for your family. And for what? Just to say "I got my pro card!" 

I'm sorry I'm not going to pump sunshine up your ass. But the path to pro moto is long strenuous, and brutal. So much so that some guys don't even like dirt bikes after they're done (Villopoto) 

If you make it unscathed and accomplish your goals, great. That would be a huge feat. Being realistic is not being "weird or negative"

APLMAN99 wrote:
I think that you are projecting what your goal would be (factory contract) in place of what his stated goal would be. He seems to be...

I think that you are projecting what your goal would be (factory contract) in place of what his stated goal would be. He seems to be very aware that this would not be an income source or career, but instead it would be a personal challenge to accomplish just to be able to enter a National level pro race in a different motorcycle discipline than he already has. 

He might actually have less risk than some people have at local races, really. 

HondaSM wrote:

I'm glad someone here is level headed and has common sense 😂

I don’t think that those words have ever been used to describe me on Vital, and not very often in ‘real life’, but thanks!  

Now if you were setting a goal of getting a podium at a pro Supercross event, I could understand people trying to talk you out of it. But I could see how a (national level pro race winning) road racer who has been ridding MX at an ‘A’ level might be able to try enter a National.

Good luck and update us on your progress!

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You mentioned concussions. Ok, let's take that out of the equation. There's 2 people recently that never stopped racing. One is no longer alive tragically (Zingg)...

You mentioned concussions. Ok, let's take that out of the equation. There's 2 people recently that never stopped racing. One is no longer alive tragically (Zingg), the other is now unable to walk (Robin). Every time you throw a leg over a bike that is a realistic possibility. At 33 unless you start going top 5 speed, any chance of making money where your family could be financially secure (factory contract) is a complete pipe dream. Some really fast guys on YouTube capture life as a privateer and it's gnarly and rough (Jeff Walker and Matt Burkeen) so again I mention hubris because the amount of risk (becoming paralyzed or disabled) due to a motocross racing injury you become an absolute burden for your family. And for what? Just to say "I got my pro card!" 

I'm sorry I'm not going to pump sunshine up your ass. But the path to pro moto is long strenuous, and brutal. So much so that some guys don't even like dirt bikes after they're done (Villopoto) 

If you make it unscathed and accomplish your goals, great. That would be a huge feat. Being realistic is not being "weird or negative"

APLMAN99 wrote:
I think that you are projecting what your goal would be (factory contract) in place of what his stated goal would be. He seems to be...

I think that you are projecting what your goal would be (factory contract) in place of what his stated goal would be. He seems to be very aware that this would not be an income source or career, but instead it would be a personal challenge to accomplish just to be able to enter a National level pro race in a different motorcycle discipline than he already has. 

He might actually have less risk than some people have at local races, really. 

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

How this got to "Factory Ride" from "pro card" is quite puzzling. 

Haha yeah typical internet responses.  He wants to race pro ams to get his pro card . He is fast people want to rip on him .  I say load & go the races there nearly every weekend .  There all fast you might hv a few new a riders doing 2or3 pa,s to learn a new pace. A 10-8 is Great finish.  I posted info on vids & there’s a lot more on yt.  Iowa,s pa has a good helmet can too . He’s batting a rider in 13th both are on the gas everywhere.  Iza Clark went on a roll last yr winning & someone picked him up . 1st rider maybe ever to land a privateer ride from pa results.  Red Bud had a tiny gate Sunday for the pa this yr.  You HAVE to finish both motos even if your fading bad.  A lot of them don’t finish 2nd motos that ruins your points.  There are other 30+ yr olds doing Pa,s they used to be at the front or win .  They are show up & race guys now Kody Kamm is probably the fastest of that bunch . He’s a 5-8 guy now  in a moto IMG 3794

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Adam43 wrote:
Chasing the dream at a certain age is like the dog chasing the car. What's your plan if you catch it?That's not to say don't do...

Chasing the dream at a certain age is like the dog chasing the car. What's your plan if you catch it?

That's not to say don't do it, but if you are constrained by resources, time, or talent - you have to be very intentional in your process.

I'd advise you to try to win a local race first, and go from there. 

 

HondaSM wrote:
If you had any idea the screen name I'm hiding behind... this isn't a stretch really. I'm one of the fastest local A riders since I...

If you had any idea the screen name I'm hiding behind... this isn't a stretch really. I'm one of the fastest local A riders since I was a teenager. It was just never a focus of mine until lately. My plan is to get the license and take that to go do a couple rounds every year until I'm too old to do so. My end goal would be to qualify for a race but if I could just earn the license I would be ok

So who are you then, Cam Beaubier?  If you want to start a channel then why use an alias?

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Looks like there are 4 Pro Ams left this year that would be realistic for me to make, one being a double point round. I was actually planning on just trying for LL next year in 250 pro sport. I made it to the regional this year but had a financial hiccup (got fired unexpectantly. Before anyone uses that against me, I'm doing fine now, but decided to skip the regional to make sure I kept my first responsibilities like bills took care of first.) The Pro Ams make this realistic to do this year and use next year to get ready instead of chasing the license

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7/17/2025 10:31am
Falcon wrote:
I think John Dowd was 28 when he turned pro. You're not too late, but you won't have a lot of years left. Go for it...

I think John Dowd was 28 when he turned pro. You're not too late, but you won't have a lot of years left. Go for it now, while you still can! 

MXRalph wrote:

Dowd won his first national at Hangtown when he was 25

web mx wrote:

Dowd raced his first pro national when he was 21 and finished 20th overall. He started racing mx when he was 18 or 19.

Not only did he start late, but he also raced late.  He raced at least one pro race every year up through age 47 in 2013!

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I'm a little nervous to share this. Maybe it's a midlife crisis or maybe it's unresolved PTSD from my childhood, I don't know, really. But I...

I'm a little nervous to share this. Maybe it's a midlife crisis or maybe it's unresolved PTSD from my childhood, I don't know, really. But I have decided to go after a pro license.

I grew up with the Tomac, Anderson, Bagget era. I have a fond memory of going to a regional in Texas on 65s and all 3 plus Trettle and more showed up. I was fastest on practice day, got the holeshot first moto and fell over 2nd turn. Long story short, a stint of concussions when I was still a kid lead my dad to take me into road racing, where I went on to make a name for myself and do big things. Now that I am a retired ex pro washed up racer, I find myself falling in love with motocross again, like being reintroduced to that first love or crush. I rode Sunday and the first 20 minutes I was riding, I realized I was riding at a level I've never rode at before. I had a long talk with my wife who is 100% supportive. As a side note, a guy local to me that I have always smoked got a license and went to Red Bud this year. He wasn't even close to qualifying but I don't know that I even care about qualifying. I think it's more about getting the license and getting to claim I made it to the pro level that means the most to me. 

I'll stop rambling to keep this short, as I could go on all day about it. I don't know that I'm really looking for advice as much as just validation. Am I crazy? I'm close to being in the best shape I've been in since I was 18, have the raw speed to make it happen, but at 33, am I just asking too much? I have a pretty strong YOLO attitude in a more meaningful sense (almost has to do with my religious views in a weird way). 

I think I am going to go for this either way. Actually, now that I think of it, this post might be useless. Again, midlife crisis and all. But has anyone tried to go after a pro license this late in their career?

there are more than a couple people on here insisting that Eli is washed up at 32. All about your perspective I guess  😁

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7/17/2025 10:54am
Adam43 wrote:
Chasing the dream at a certain age is like the dog chasing the car. What's your plan if you catch it?That's not to say don't do...

Chasing the dream at a certain age is like the dog chasing the car. What's your plan if you catch it?

That's not to say don't do it, but if you are constrained by resources, time, or talent - you have to be very intentional in your process.

I'd advise you to try to win a local race first, and go from there. 

 

HondaSM wrote:
If you had any idea the screen name I'm hiding behind... this isn't a stretch really. I'm one of the fastest local A riders since I...

If you had any idea the screen name I'm hiding behind... this isn't a stretch really. I'm one of the fastest local A riders since I was a teenager. It was just never a focus of mine until lately. My plan is to get the license and take that to go do a couple rounds every year until I'm too old to do so. My end goal would be to qualify for a race but if I could just earn the license I would be ok

So who are you then, Cam Beaubier?  If you want to start a channel then why use an alias?

Exactly. I don't know what the big secret to being anonymous about wanting to get a pro License is all about? If you were a successful Road Racer, you should be proud of it. Why are you not letting us know who you are?

Anyway I do wish you good luck and yes I agree with the majority that you should go for it. I was never a pro, but I did race into my mid 50's with the AZOTMX club and Internationals in the Master class until one race mid-moto I suddenly realized what the f*** am I doing? 😲😂 1000002899

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HondaSM wrote:
If you had any idea the screen name I'm hiding behind... this isn't a stretch really. I'm one of the fastest local A riders since I...

If you had any idea the screen name I'm hiding behind... this isn't a stretch really. I'm one of the fastest local A riders since I was a teenager. It was just never a focus of mine until lately. My plan is to get the license and take that to go do a couple rounds every year until I'm too old to do so. My end goal would be to qualify for a race but if I could just earn the license I would be ok

So who are you then, Cam Beaubier?  If you want to start a channel then why use an alias?

G-man wrote:
Exactly. I don't know what the big secret to being anonymous about wanting to get a pro License is all about? If you were a successful...

Exactly. I don't know what the big secret to being anonymous about wanting to get a pro License is all about? If you were a successful Road Racer, you should be proud of it. Why are you not letting us know who you are?

Anyway I do wish you good luck and yes I agree with the majority that you should go for it. I was never a pro, but I did race into my mid 50's with the AZOTMX club and Internationals in the Master class until one race mid-moto I suddenly realized what the f*** am I doing? 😲😂 1000002899

Nah, you're right actually. Now that I have 100% decided to give it a go, I'm not scared to tell people who I am. I was more so on the fence when I made this post. And I didn't want it come across as looking for attention.

My name is Kris Turner. Success might be relative but I'm proud of what I was able to accomplish , yet also came up short of where I was really aiming. The whole time I was road racing, I was still dreaming of being a motocross racer. This is where my heart has always been, since I was 3 years old. I was too young to have much of a say in the transition and took off real quick with it and got sucked in. But at the end of the day, I always had an eye on the guys I grew up racing mx with.

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Man I couldn't imagine waking up every day as the person that downvotes someone trying to chase a dream and be more. We'll see how this goes but whenever Rupert X snaps a pic of me heading out for qualifying at my first national, I'll be sure to make another post

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7/17/2025 1:01pm Edited Date/Time 7/17/2025 1:02pm

Quit worrying about downvotes or responses that don’t justify the decision you’ve already made. Go get some seat time. 

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7/17/2025 4:53pm Edited Date/Time 7/17/2025 4:59pm
APLMAN99 wrote:
I think that you are projecting what your goal would be (factory contract) in place of what his stated goal would be. He seems to be...

I think that you are projecting what your goal would be (factory contract) in place of what his stated goal would be. He seems to be very aware that this would not be an income source or career, but instead it would be a personal challenge to accomplish just to be able to enter a National level pro race in a different motorcycle discipline than he already has. 

He might actually have less risk than some people have at local races, really. 

I mentioned "enough money" where his family would be financially set up if something catastrophic were to happen to him. The only thing in moto that comes with that kind of money is a factory deal. 

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7/17/2025 5:11pm
APLMAN99 wrote:
I think that you are projecting what your goal would be (factory contract) in place of what his stated goal would be. He seems to be...

I think that you are projecting what your goal would be (factory contract) in place of what his stated goal would be. He seems to be very aware that this would not be an income source or career, but instead it would be a personal challenge to accomplish just to be able to enter a National level pro race in a different motorcycle discipline than he already has. 

He might actually have less risk than some people have at local races, really. 

I mentioned "enough money" where his family would be financially set up if something catastrophic were to happen to him. The only thing in moto that...

I mentioned "enough money" where his family would be financially set up if something catastrophic were to happen to him. The only thing in moto that comes with that kind of money is a factory deal. 

Exactly, you are projecting YOUR stipulations on what the reward would need to be for you onto him. 

As a father, I can’t honestly say that I stopped doing any and everything that had risk after my kids were born. I certainly took steps to make sure that if I were killed or disabled that they would be financially cared for, but nearly any hobby or interest I had came with at least some risk. 

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7/17/2025 5:23pm
APLMAN99 wrote:
I think that you are projecting what your goal would be (factory contract) in place of what his stated goal would be. He seems to be...

I think that you are projecting what your goal would be (factory contract) in place of what his stated goal would be. He seems to be very aware that this would not be an income source or career, but instead it would be a personal challenge to accomplish just to be able to enter a National level pro race in a different motorcycle discipline than he already has. 

He might actually have less risk than some people have at local races, really. 

I mentioned "enough money" where his family would be financially set up if something catastrophic were to happen to him. The only thing in moto that...

I mentioned "enough money" where his family would be financially set up if something catastrophic were to happen to him. The only thing in moto that comes with that kind of money is a factory deal. 

Just stop digging. 

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7/17/2025 5:33pm
APLMAN99 wrote:
I think that you are projecting what your goal would be (factory contract) in place of what his stated goal would be. He seems to be...

I think that you are projecting what your goal would be (factory contract) in place of what his stated goal would be. He seems to be very aware that this would not be an income source or career, but instead it would be a personal challenge to accomplish just to be able to enter a National level pro race in a different motorcycle discipline than he already has. 

He might actually have less risk than some people have at local races, really. 

I mentioned "enough money" where his family would be financially set up if something catastrophic were to happen to him. The only thing in moto that...

I mentioned "enough money" where his family would be financially set up if something catastrophic were to happen to him. The only thing in moto that comes with that kind of money is a factory deal. 

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

Just stop digging. 

Reading is fundamental. Not shocking results from a sport dominated by home schoolers lol. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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7/17/2025 6:33pm

I too had a “midlife crisis” around the age of 30, but instead of wisely choosing to pursue my pro motocross license, I made the fateful decision to get married instead.

I think you’re making an exceptionally smart choice, my friend.

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7/17/2025 7:18pm
I mentioned "enough money" where his family would be financially set up if something catastrophic were to happen to him. The only thing in moto that...

I mentioned "enough money" where his family would be financially set up if something catastrophic were to happen to him. The only thing in moto that comes with that kind of money is a factory deal. 

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

Just stop digging. 

Reading is fundamental. Not shocking results from a sport dominated by home schoolers lol. 🤷🏼‍♂️

Maybe he has a life insurance policy on himself.  Quit assuming he’s just throwing caution to wind to chase getting a pro card.  If he can run with local A riders he shouldn’t be that far off. 

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7/18/2025 5:05am
HondaSM wrote:
I'm a little nervous to share this. Maybe it's a midlife crisis or maybe it's unresolved PTSD from my childhood, I don't know, really. But I...

I'm a little nervous to share this. Maybe it's a midlife crisis or maybe it's unresolved PTSD from my childhood, I don't know, really. But I have decided to go after a pro license.

I grew up with the Tomac, Anderson, Bagget era. I have a fond memory of going to a regional in Texas on 65s and all 3 plus Trettle and more showed up. I was fastest on practice day, got the holeshot first moto and fell over 2nd turn. Long story short, a stint of concussions when I was still a kid lead my dad to take me into road racing, where I went on to make a name for myself and do big things. Now that I am a retired ex pro washed up racer, I find myself falling in love with motocross again, like being reintroduced to that first love or crush. I rode Sunday and the first 20 minutes I was riding, I realized I was riding at a level I've never rode at before. I had a long talk with my wife who is 100% supportive. As a side note, a guy local to me that I have always smoked got a license and went to Red Bud this year. He wasn't even close to qualifying but I don't know that I even care about qualifying. I think it's more about getting the license and getting to claim I made it to the pro level that means the most to me. 

I'll stop rambling to keep this short, as I could go on all day about it. I don't know that I'm really looking for advice as much as just validation. Am I crazy? I'm close to being in the best shape I've been in since I was 18, have the raw speed to make it happen, but at 33, am I just asking too much? I have a pretty strong YOLO attitude in a more meaningful sense (almost has to do with my religious views in a weird way). 

I think I am going to go for this either way. Actually, now that I think of it, this post might be useless. Again, midlife crisis and all. But has anyone tried to go after a pro license this late in their career?

Your youthful naivete' is refreshing.

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