Gajser to Yamaha?

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7/16/2025 4:43am
Park Boys wrote:

He’s the greatest rider in Hondas GP history. Hopefully he makes em pay. 

kiwifan wrote:

Make them pay? Sounds like he choose to leave 

Bearuno wrote:
I took Park Boys comment as in Tim making Honda pay, by kicking their arses next year.Sort of like how Rossi showed Honda that his Championships...

I took Park Boys comment as in Tim making Honda pay, by kicking their arses next year.

Sort of like how Rossi showed Honda that his Championships were Not just down to the bike. Honda have had that attitude for decades.

I'm a bit bummed by this - his reported moving from Honda. Nothing against Yamaha, or, well, any Team. It's just that he is Honda in Motocross, to me, in a certain way.

Though, I'd love to see him, or Herlings, on the Ducati. And, beating Honda.

Fair enough I guess I don't hate on a brand if they choose to not pay him what he wanted, if Yamaha pay him more then good on him if that's his driver

 

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7/16/2025 5:14am

It’ll be crazy to see Tim not on a Honda & not in Fox kit.

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7/16/2025 6:37am

Seems like Vialle to Honda is also pretty much done. I just don't get why he signs up to race a 450 in Paris and the first WSX round if his plan is to race mxgp next year?

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7/16/2025 6:55am

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7/16/2025 6:56am Edited Date/Time 7/16/2025 7:02am
Robgvx wrote:
From what I understand, the high salaries in MXGP had for a long time been driven by big spending KTM. With KTM on the ropes and...

From what I understand, the high salaries in MXGP had for a long time been driven by big spending KTM. With KTM on the ropes and having to tighten their purse strings, other teams across the board have adjusted their spending down too.

Lots of unhappy riders getting paid way less than they had become accustomed to. 

ksithumper wrote:

So more will consider the US and the GP series declines further. 

Luongo will milk it until dry.

If mxsports and feld were smart they would take 4-5 supercross rounds off the schedule. Add those 4-5 rounds to the smx finals and make the smx finals more motocross then supercross or just make them at existing motocross tracks but still remain as a separate series. And then make it open to all top 20 or top 15 mxgp riders in both classes. 
 

Mxgp riders all want to come to America and race and have a chance at making big money. The ones that don’t, do it out of fear of not getting a paycheck or fear of supercross. Both of which are completely valid. 
 

*I mean if Luongo doesn’t want to step up out of concern for his profit margin. Fuck him.  Why not feld and mxsports step up and with only minimal or zero financial investment and only a minor tweaking to the existing structure, they could pretty much guarantee a higher profit. 

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Cortami79 wrote:

If Herlings and Vialle both go to HRC, then where will Fernandez go? I still think Herlings going to Wilvo Ducati is more likely

Hope Fernández stays at HRC. He worked hard to get where he is, and he hasn't always been lucky.

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Park Boys wrote:

He’s the greatest rider in Hondas GP history. Hopefully he makes em pay. 

kiwifan wrote:

Make them pay? Sounds like he choose to leave 

Bearuno wrote:
I took Park Boys comment as in Tim making Honda pay, by kicking their arses next year.Sort of like how Rossi showed Honda that his Championships...

I took Park Boys comment as in Tim making Honda pay, by kicking their arses next year.

Sort of like how Rossi showed Honda that his Championships were Not just down to the bike. Honda have had that attitude for decades.

I'm a bit bummed by this - his reported moving from Honda. Nothing against Yamaha, or, well, any Team. It's just that he is Honda in Motocross, to me, in a certain way.

Though, I'd love to see him, or Herlings, on the Ducati. And, beating Honda.

And people argue with me that Honda will never let the Lawrence’s go. Lol people still don’t get it.

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MXMattii wrote:
It seems that Honda was happy with him and he was with Honda. But with the negotiations he asked more than his 2 million/2.5 million (the...

It seems that Honda was happy with him and he was with Honda. But with the negotiations he asked more than his 2 million/2.5 million (the rumors) that he already earned and Honda and Gariboldi weren't happy with that because to get to Tiga his number they needed to cut their brand new MX2 program.

Yamaha on the other side, normally only pays 700k to 800k but today I got news that they are going from 3 pilots to 2 pilots in the MXGP and that their MX2 program is in the balance, because Hutten Metaal is out. 

rym wrote:

Just that i understand it correctly what you are saying: There is no more factory Yamaha in MX2 for next year?

That is at the moment one of the possibilities or just one mx2 rider. That would mean that they would go from 6 to 3 riders.

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Yes, he was essentially resigned by Honda.

MXMattii wrote:
It seems that Honda was happy with him and he was with Honda. But with the negotiations he asked more than his 2 million/2.5 million (the...

It seems that Honda was happy with him and he was with Honda. But with the negotiations he asked more than his 2 million/2.5 million (the rumors) that he already earned and Honda and Gariboldi weren't happy with that because to get to Tiga his number they needed to cut their brand new MX2 program.

Yamaha on the other side, normally only pays 700k to 800k but today I got news that they are going from 3 pilots to 2 pilots in the MXGP and that their MX2 program is in the balance, because Hutten Metaal is out. 

David934 wrote:

Who s off, Vlanderen or Geerts?

Both are off.

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7/16/2025 8:15am

In terms of both recovery and legal issues, when can he race blue?

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Cortami79 wrote:

If Herlings and Vialle both go to HRC, then where will Fernandez go? I still think Herlings going to Wilvo Ducati is more likely

mxxxeR1 wrote:
I don't believe herlings will ever leave ktm....but if he did...and he's smart ....he shouldn.t just look at the money ....he has al ready more than...

I don't believe herlings will ever leave ktm....but if he did...and he's smart ....he shouldn.t just look at the money ....he has al ready more than enough money......and then Ducati  doesn't really seen like the right choice 

More than enough money hasn't stopped a lot of people in pursuit of more.

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Cortami79 wrote:

If Herlings and Vialle both go to HRC, then where will Fernandez go? I still think Herlings going to Wilvo Ducati is more likely

mxxxeR1 wrote:
I don't believe herlings will ever leave ktm....but if he did...and he's smart ....he shouldn.t just look at the money ....he has al ready more than...

I don't believe herlings will ever leave ktm....but if he did...and he's smart ....he shouldn.t just look at the money ....he has al ready more than enough money......and then Ducati  doesn't really seen like the right choice 

davis224 wrote:

More than enough money hasn't stopped a lot of people in pursuit of more.

That's right but if he still wants to win something it would be better sit on a honda  than a ducati.....

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7/16/2025 11:20am
MXMattii wrote:
It seems that Honda was happy with him and he was with Honda. But with the negotiations he asked more than his 2 million/2.5 million (the...

It seems that Honda was happy with him and he was with Honda. But with the negotiations he asked more than his 2 million/2.5 million (the rumors) that he already earned and Honda and Gariboldi weren't happy with that because to get to Tiga his number they needed to cut their brand new MX2 program.

Yamaha on the other side, normally only pays 700k to 800k but today I got news that they are going from 3 pilots to 2 pilots in the MXGP and that their MX2 program is in the balance, because Hutten Metaal is out. 

mwilcox349 wrote:

Is that Euros or US Dollars? Only curious

TeamGreen wrote:

Lira 

Contract is for 2.5 million rubles.

Which is equal to $32,000 US dollars

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7/16/2025 11:25am
Park Boys wrote:

He’s the greatest rider in Hondas GP history. Hopefully he makes em pay. 

kiwifan wrote:

Make them pay? Sounds like he choose to leave 

Bearuno wrote:
I took Park Boys comment as in Tim making Honda pay, by kicking their arses next year.Sort of like how Rossi showed Honda that his Championships...

I took Park Boys comment as in Tim making Honda pay, by kicking their arses next year.

Sort of like how Rossi showed Honda that his Championships were Not just down to the bike. Honda have had that attitude for decades.

I'm a bit bummed by this - his reported moving from Honda. Nothing against Yamaha, or, well, any Team. It's just that he is Honda in Motocross, to me, in a certain way.

Though, I'd love to see him, or Herlings, on the Ducati. And, beating Honda.

Yes, that’s what I meant by my post. 

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7/16/2025 11:45am
Cortami79 wrote:

If Herlings and Vialle both go to HRC, then where will Fernandez go? I still think Herlings going to Wilvo Ducati is more likely

Inferno wrote:

Hope Fernández stays at HRC. He worked hard to get where he is, and he hasn't always been lucky.

According to lewis ruben is out.

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7/16/2025 11:53am
crusty_xx wrote:
Seems like Vialle to Honda is also pretty much done. I just don't get why he signs up to race a 450 in Paris and the...

Seems like Vialle to Honda is also pretty much done. I just don't get why he signs up to race a 450 in Paris and the first WSX round if his plan is to race mxgp next year?

$$$$

7/16/2025 2:20pm
Boomslang wrote:

TG signed with Yamaha means either Vlaanderen or his team mate (Geerts??).is out.

Both have been very underwhelming all year. This hurts as I'm a Jargo fan.

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7/16/2025 2:32pm

Can’t wait to see Jeffrey on the honda. Maybe it will be something that keeps him around a bit longer. 

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Tim on a Yamaha and Jeffrey on a Honda would be freakin awesome!!!

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7/16/2025 10:29pm
rym wrote:
I would imagine that for Vlaanderen back at van Venrooy KTM would have to step up for that. I mean Valk is a KTM rider so...

I would imagine that for Vlaanderen back at van Venrooy KTM would have to step up for that. I mean Valk is a KTM rider so he is bringing KTM support to Venrooy this year  or Venrooy is KTM supported and gets Valk assigned, however you want to word it. Unless Venrooy switches brand next year, but they were always quite brand loyal so switching within a year doesnt seem like how they operate.

I think the KTM and Vlaanderen will be a good fit.

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7/17/2025 1:28am
MXMattii wrote:
It seems that Honda was happy with him and he was with Honda. But with the negotiations he asked more than his 2 million/2.5 million (the...

It seems that Honda was happy with him and he was with Honda. But with the negotiations he asked more than his 2 million/2.5 million (the rumors) that he already earned and Honda and Gariboldi weren't happy with that because to get to Tiga his number they needed to cut their brand new MX2 program.

Yamaha on the other side, normally only pays 700k to 800k but today I got news that they are going from 3 pilots to 2 pilots in the MXGP and that their MX2 program is in the balance, because Hutten Metaal is out. 

mwilcox349 wrote:

Is that Euros or US Dollars? Only curious

TeamGreen wrote:

Lira 

Bitcoin. 

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rym wrote:
I would imagine that for Vlaanderen back at van Venrooy KTM would have to step up for that. I mean Valk is a KTM rider so...

I would imagine that for Vlaanderen back at van Venrooy KTM would have to step up for that. I mean Valk is a KTM rider so he is bringing KTM support to Venrooy this year  or Venrooy is KTM supported and gets Valk assigned, however you want to word it. Unless Venrooy switches brand next year, but they were always quite brand loyal so switching within a year doesnt seem like how they operate.

Boomslang wrote:

I think the KTM and Vlaanderen will be a good fit.

Yeah its more like what Lewis was saying in the podcast, if you are KTM and you have Lucas in MXGP and you have Langenfelder, de Wolf, Adamo, Sacha and Everts under contract for next year move 1 or 2 of those 5 mx2 riders up and you'd have a strong mxgp and mx2 lineup. Why sign Vlaanderen in that case?

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rym wrote:
I would imagine that for Vlaanderen back at van Venrooy KTM would have to step up for that. I mean Valk is a KTM rider so...

I would imagine that for Vlaanderen back at van Venrooy KTM would have to step up for that. I mean Valk is a KTM rider so he is bringing KTM support to Venrooy this year  or Venrooy is KTM supported and gets Valk assigned, however you want to word it. Unless Venrooy switches brand next year, but they were always quite brand loyal so switching within a year doesnt seem like how they operate.

Boomslang wrote:

I think the KTM and Vlaanderen will be a good fit.

rym wrote:
Yeah its more like what Lewis was saying in the podcast, if you are KTM and you have Lucas in MXGP and you have Langenfelder, de...

Yeah its more like what Lewis was saying in the podcast, if you are KTM and you have Lucas in MXGP and you have Langenfelder, de Wolf, Adamo, Sacha and Everts under contract for next year move 1 or 2 of those 5 mx2 riders up and you'd have a strong mxgp and mx2 lineup. Why sign Vlaanderen in that case?

Everts isn’t under contract (yet), there is also someone else from the class who will join the orange family in 2026.

7/17/2025 4:14pm

Man, the Yamaha 250 squad is not looking good. MX2 Resilus has been well let's say very underwhelming. Yamaha need to take a swing at a better rider.

I'd be keeping an eye on Katona from the 125 class. That kid is good.

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Money wrote:

Can’t wait to see Jeffrey on the honda. Maybe it will be something that keeps him around a bit longer. 

Im curious (worried) to if he will struggle as Prado. Jeffrey has been what 15 years on KTM steel chassi and has very unique character of engine, almost like a 350 he has said. 

Have we seen any other rider leave after that long? Besides Cairoli

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Man, the Yamaha 250 squad is not looking good. MX2 Resilus has been well let's say very underwhelming. Yamaha need to take a swing at a...

Man, the Yamaha 250 squad is not looking good. MX2 Resilus has been well let's say very underwhelming. Yamaha need to take a swing at a better rider.

I'd be keeping an eye on Katona from the 125 class. That kid is good.

KTM signed Katona for multiple years.

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JBone19 wrote:

Everts isn’t under contract (yet), there is also someone else from the class who will join the orange family in 2026.

Maybe i misunderstood from his podcast, but Lewis made it sound like KTM has a team-option that they will take, making Everts under contract for next season. 

And the new rider joining, is that more the support level rider like Valk or really factory team rider?

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Man, the Yamaha 250 squad is not looking good. MX2 Resilus has been well let's say very underwhelming. Yamaha need to take a swing at a...

Man, the Yamaha 250 squad is not looking good. MX2 Resilus has been well let's say very underwhelming. Yamaha need to take a swing at a better rider.

I'd be keeping an eye on Katona from the 125 class. That kid is good.

Imo they made a mistake keeping Reisulis in EMX250 this season. I would have put him in Elzinga's place and have him get that full mx2 season under his belt.

Maybe Zanchi is a good option for Yamaha? Have the Reisulis and Zanchi in MX2 and move up Faure in EMX250 and add one other talent for emx250.
 

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If I was Yamaha I'd take a punt on McLellan and run Janis Reisulis in MX2 next year. Maybe even move Karlis back to EMX250 for a rebuilding year. Benistant and Elzinga age out after this season.

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