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And everyone is so reactionary to what they're currently seeing. The otherworldly guy we're watching in mx isnt the same guy in sx. He makes more mistakes indoors and is far from unbeatable.
Who are we missing that could contend right now? I'll wait.
Spectacularly a false premise. He just happens to hole shot practically every moto. His wins are not dependent on them though as he pretty clearly demonstrated that.
Are you saying there is someone, and you’re waiting till we guess who it is?
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Top pros are accustomed to battling for position, not getting passed and gapped almost instantly. None of these guys have experienced that level of domination. Jett can literally dictate the race from the lead or 18 spots back.
It’s not that people don’t want to see someone race against him.
But when some people drags Deegans name in to beating Jett it’s just ridiculous. He has not had one 450 race in his life and people in here acting like he is all ready a level above the likes of Hunter, Eli, and Sexton.
What Deegan displayed yesterday with his immaturity on track, he has a long way to go to to be in the same category as Jett, just like Ben Townley said.
No, the guy I quoted said the field is not that deep. I'm disagreeing, there's basically no contenders missing and plenty of depth, look at how 2x MXDN champ is fairing against the US competition (I know bike change and all but nobody ever projected him to be out of the top 5 in most motos).
Jett is just so good that it makes it seem like there's lack of depth but depth isn't the problem. It's that Jett is just that much better than everyone else right now.
He’s like a freaking kangaroo hopping around the track. This pass on Jcoop was 😤
I've been curious since his last year on 250s in SX, I'd see just these furious bursts of speed for a couple sections at a time. I want to see Jett in a scenario like Sexton in moto 2 of Pala 2022. All the marbles on the line and you're behind, have to go as fast as you can humanly go if you want it. What's his absolute limit look like?
A few things:
Chase is the only with the speed to keep up with Jett but he isn’t faster than Jett and isn’t going to be able to pass Jett. Chase is a worse starter so he may beat Jett here and there, but it won’t be often due to Jett being such a great starter.
I don’t know how anyone who has watched Jett’s career up to this point did not know he could ride from 18th to the lead. Chase has the same speed and came from dead last in 2024.
The Hondas looked bad at Pala and a little better the following week. They are locked in now and have been for a couple of weeks. The ability to get a bike from not great to locked in in a month should not be overlooked.
Deegan is the same age that Jett was when he went undefeated on the 450. To say Deegan is anywhere near Jett’s speed right now is ridiculous. He is already a year behind Jett, and he is not a good starter which will be crippling when he lines up against Jett.
You're being downvoted but you aren't wrong. Jett is facing a slightly deeper field this year, but 40th to 1st is wilder than 18th to 1st. Does nobody think Sexton is capable of beating him "once in a while"? Coming from a Sexton fan, Jett is clearly better, but Sexton can have the odd day where he can put it together.
Deegan is the only one right now with potential to battle with Jett…NOT saying he will, just saying of anyone currently racing, he is the only one. No one else in the 250 or 450s right now have that potential..
As long as Jett stays healthy I don’t see anyone beating him for the foreseeable future..
This vid in slow motion is amazing to watch.
Dude this exact statement is comical at this point and yet you casuals will drop in and keep ensuring Deegan’s fan base is continually laughed at. Deegan cannot even go perfect against a crop of pussies who don’t want to fight for anything. He will be minced in 450. Do us all a favour and shut up about Deegan on a 450 until he’s on one. Spike33, big diesel, 971 fan /Magoofan burner - looking at you clowns.
As far as Jett’s starts go, he’s obviously not depending solely on them, as moto 2 shows. But suppose he was: It takes skill to get a good start. Being able to consistently start well and translate those starts into wins would be impressive in itself. We see plenty of riders start well and not win. As already mentioned by others, it’s an odd criticism.
Deegan shouldn’t merit a serious part in any conversation about beating Jett. That’s not a knock on Deegan - there’s just no solid basis for it. We Haven’t even seen him on a 450 yet. He’ll probably be fast - a top contender, in all likelihood. But to beat Jett - consistently, I’m sure he’ll beat him if he has a great day and Jett has a bad one - would require a level of dominance that’s possible but unfair to expect.
Conversely, yesterday we saw Jett at his best while Deegan had a bad day. We can’t draw any conclusions from that either. Deegan was probably sore from his practice crash, his bike was smoking in moto 1, and Redbud hasn’t been a great track for him. So while I’m not about to say that Deegan is going to move up and dominate, dismissing him based on yesterday is a pretty flagrant case of recency bias.
He’s the complete package, good technique, smooth on the track, can manange his pace, switch up line choices mid race, and some how find more speed late in the race. His competition really has nothing on him but to hope he gets buried off the start. It’s pretty wild he makes it look easy when the 450 field is stacked with a lot of talent.
Yes, Chase has that group of AP, Hunter, JCoop, and Eli covered IMO. Dont get mad I put Eli in that group. His results say thats his level right now. Chase isn't faster than Jett but Jett isnt doing his cruise control mode with Chase behind him. If they get the start together at Millville, I bet they put 45sec on the field.
Its even ridiculous to think Deegz could beat Chase immediately on a 450. I do think hes going to be a force outdoors on a 450. Sx is the bigger question mark
You genuinely want him to get a bad start but not because you want someone else to win. Because you get to see him work the field like that 2nd moto yesterday. We dont get that move on JCoop if he gets the start. Cmon Jett, give us a show 😂
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You are not wrong. Watching Jett pass pretty fast guys like they are sitting still is pretty fun.
Jett is riding like a full grown man now, man strength and in complete control. Only Jett can beat Jett and if he can stay laser focused for the next decade a lot of records are going to fall. Still A LONG WAYS from 76 (RC outdoor 450) and 72 (MC SX) and 150 (RC total MX & SX) total-pretty intimidating numbers. A lot of shit has to go right in the next decade.
Deegan goes 1-1-1-1-2-2-1-1-1-1-14-2 and you sods take that 14th and go on about he is unprepared for the 450 class and in particular, Jett. Refresh my memory, but did Jett ever get a perfect season in the 250 class? Because it was just as full of the inconsistency it is now. Not many have argued that Haiden will go into the class as a rookie and beat Jett. The argument is that given his trajectory, he will eventually challenge Jett for wins and titles.
Magoofan is correct, and no, I am not his burner account: Jett's fans are terrible and I am not the only one to notice it. I can give many examples of his fans shitting on Tomac, Chase, and the rest of his competition. But your posts speaks volumes for how much respect you have for the riders when you call the current 250 riders:
"a crop of pussies...".
That was Chase at the end of moto one. Prado went outside and Chase tucked in right underneath him on the inside. Then in the next corner Prado went wide again and paddled his way through the rut with both feet off the pegs and Chase took the inside again.
Moto two both Jett and Chase made pretty quick work of him on the broadcast. Prado is definitely taking his licks at the moment!
Little to no flaws in that kid's game - that's for sure. His speed, technique, fitness, race craft and general durability (against injury) hasn't been seen in a rider for a while. And if it wasn't for his brother, Hunter would be the talk of the paddock right now. Hope Deegs has something for the bros when he moves up. Otherwise it may be a string of Lawrence domination for quite some time.
I think the only thing that could derail matters is if Honda gets tried of winning, as they have been known to do, and releases them from contract. But poop, it didn't stop RC.
Yes, its just Jett's fans that are terrible. Haiden's fans aren't emotional and reactionary. Every week they dont say how hes going to kick Jett's ass on a 450. Every week Tomac fans dont say how beast mode is coming soon and how Jett has never passed Eli straight up. How Jett only wins because he gets every holeshot. Its every fan base. They're all tribalistic. We're all guilty of it at times. Dont be silly and just single out Lawrence fans
This Jett’s fans vs Deegan’s fans vs Tomac’s fans talk is puzzling to me. I’m a motocross fan and just want to see good racing and mind blowing talent. Why would anyone feel the need to like one rider in a way that causes them to dislike another?
Lord of the flies, vital edition.
Whatever Jett is doing, and/or how he continually does is it...nobody and I mean nobody, has an answer for. I am a big Eli fan, but Eli has nothing for Jett. I simply don't see anyone who does. Like Jett or not, the guy brings it. SX or MX, the kid is a juggernaut of speed and talent. Mad props to the kid. He has his bases covered.
Even the AMA vs MXGP stuff. Who cares what country the rider is from? And I'm definitely guilty of it when I was younger. I just dont care anymore.
For someone who grew up in the era of walking to and from school uphill both ways and all that, you sure are sensitive.
At this point its not even reasonable to expect Eli to be on that level, no matter who's favourite anyone is. He's in his 30's with kids, Jett is 21. MC and RC were closer in age when ricky finally beat him, and back then they made that age gap seem massive.
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