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Who does everyone have for the 2 US riders ? Not sure Eli is guaranteed now. Eli, AP, RJ and J Coop all are making a strong case for a spot. 

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mb60 wrote:
Who does everyone have for the 2 US riders ? Not sure Eli is guaranteed now. Eli, AP, RJ and J Coop all are making a...

Who does everyone have for the 2 US riders ? Not sure Eli is guaranteed now. Eli, AP, RJ and J Coop all are making a strong case for a spot. 

Still Eli and Chase if both can go. J-Coop would be next in line in my opinion 

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7/5/2025 3:11pm

Eli and Chase will be switching brands so probably won’t race. Put Deegs on a 450. Kitchen 250 and Jcoop 450. Probably the best team. AP just doesn’t deliver in the 3 times he’s been.

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mb60 wrote:
Who does everyone have for the 2 US riders ? Not sure Eli is guaranteed now. Eli, AP, RJ and J Coop all are making a...

Who does everyone have for the 2 US riders ? Not sure Eli is guaranteed now. Eli, AP, RJ and J Coop all are making a strong case for a spot. 

agn5008 wrote:

Still Eli and Chase if both can go. J-Coop would be next in line in my opinion 

This is the likely order. JCoop is the best alternate. Love AP, but he can barely hang on for 15 minutes right now... Something is up.

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7/5/2025 3:32pm
Eli and Chase will be switching brands so probably won’t race. Put Deegs on a 450. Kitchen 250 and Jcoop 450. Probably the best team. AP...

Eli and Chase will be switching brands so probably won’t race. Put Deegs on a 450. Kitchen 250 and Jcoop 450. Probably the best team. AP just doesn’t deliver in the 3 times he’s been.

ML said on one of the recent review pods that Eli might be racing a star bike at nations, and that this might be Haiden's last 250 mx race at nations. I agree with the JCoop pick and reason for not picking AP.

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7/5/2025 6:10pm

Chase's MXoN reaction in my post-race interview was interesting...

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Star only showing up because it's here.

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Star only showing up because it's here.

Feel the same. Give me 3 guys who would go whenever. 

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7/5/2025 6:33pm

You think KHI will field a bike for Prado? 
Poor guy will prol have to buy one of those kawi e-bikes to race.  🤷🏻‍♂️

7/5/2025 6:36pm
Eli and Chase will be switching brands so probably won’t race. Put Deegs on a 450. Kitchen 250 and Jcoop 450. Probably the best team. AP...

Eli and Chase will be switching brands so probably won’t race. Put Deegs on a 450. Kitchen 250 and Jcoop 450. Probably the best team. AP just doesn’t deliver in the 3 times he’s been.

Waiter, I’ll have 2 of whatever this guy is drinking please 🍻

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7/5/2025 6:53pm
Eli and Chase will be switching brands so probably won’t race. Put Deegs on a 450. Kitchen 250 and Jcoop 450. Probably the best team. AP...

Eli and Chase will be switching brands so probably won’t race. Put Deegs on a 450. Kitchen 250 and Jcoop 450. Probably the best team. AP just doesn’t deliver in the 3 times he’s been.

Waiter, I’ll have 2 of whatever this guy is drinking please 🍻

What’s the issue? If Eli and Chase don’t race, that puts arguably the best performing riders in MXoN for team USA, without going back to guys who have been and didn’t perform.

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Chase's MXoN reaction in my post-race interview was interesting...

Eli, J-Coop and Deegan it is then. I’d be very happy with that team. Australia will still be tough to beat, but I could see Deegan having an amazing race and placing significantly higher than whoever Australia picks as their MX2 rider.  

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ML said pre-race today that Eli and Deegan were likely per Pelletier.  So the 2nd 450 is Sexton (seems unlikely), JCoop, AP, or RJ.  AP has been having a little trouble lately and both JCoop and RJ have been stepping it up.  Right now it’s solidly JCoop in my opinion, with RJ getting better by the week.

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7/5/2025 7:31pm
Eli and Chase will be switching brands so probably won’t race. Put Deegs on a 450. Kitchen 250 and Jcoop 450. Probably the best team. AP...

Eli and Chase will be switching brands so probably won’t race. Put Deegs on a 450. Kitchen 250 and Jcoop 450. Probably the best team. AP just doesn’t deliver in the 3 times he’s been.

ML said on one of the recent review pods that Eli might be racing a star bike at nations, and that this might be Haiden's last...

ML said on one of the recent review pods that Eli might be racing a star bike at nations, and that this might be Haiden's last 250 mx race at nations. I agree with the JCoop pick and reason for not picking AP.

Mathes is adamant that Star and Eli will work it out so he can ride the race on their bike. 

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7/5/2025 9:43pm
mb60 wrote:
Who does everyone have for the 2 US riders ? Not sure Eli is guaranteed now. Eli, AP, RJ and J Coop all are making a...

Who does everyone have for the 2 US riders ? Not sure Eli is guaranteed now. Eli, AP, RJ and J Coop all are making a strong case for a spot. 

agn5008 wrote:

Still Eli and Chase if both can go. J-Coop would be next in line in my opinion 

SoCalMX70 wrote:

This is the likely order. JCoop is the best alternate. Love AP, but he can barely hang on for 15 minutes right now... Something is up.

His Joe Dirt schtick is wearing him out. 

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7/5/2025 9:46pm
captmoto wrote:

Star only showing up because it's here.

Don't blame Star. They sent Eli and Fat Boy last year. The stuff about them not wanting to go was bullshit concocted by The Princess to excuse Haiden 'Merica Deegan for not going - twice. 

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7/5/2025 9:51pm

Eli, Sexton, Deegan…especially if Sexton has the speed he showed today in that second moto….Eli deserves it based purely on legacy and willingness to show up in the past, and is still one of the two fastest Americans on any day…Deegan is obvious, and with his attitude I think he will absolutely rise to the occasion with a chip on his shoulder just to lay wood to the MX2 GP guys…


It will still be tough to beat Australia…but it’s very possible, if Eli can keep less than 2 MX1 riders between him and Jett, if Chase can beat Hunter, and Deegan can beat whomever the MX2 rider from Australia is…USA could win it (with no bad luck…knock on wood).

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7/5/2025 9:58pm
captmoto wrote:

Star only showing up because it's here.

Herr Lich wrote:
Don't blame Star. They sent Eli and Fat Boy last year. The stuff about them not wanting to go was bullshit concocted by The Princess to...

Don't blame Star. They sent Eli and Fat Boy last year. The stuff about them not wanting to go was bullshit concocted by The Princess to excuse Haiden 'Merica Deegan for not going - twice. 

First year was a lame excuse, last year is probably the only valid excuse.

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7/6/2025 12:38am

Chase's MXoN reaction in my post-race interview was interesting...

at least drop the time stamp

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Eli and Chase will be switching brands so probably won’t race. Put Deegs on a 450. Kitchen 250 and Jcoop 450. Probably the best team. AP...

Eli and Chase will be switching brands so probably won’t race. Put Deegs on a 450. Kitchen 250 and Jcoop 450. Probably the best team. AP just doesn’t deliver in the 3 times he’s been.

srsly, anyone but AP

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7/6/2025 12:43am

Eli, Chase and Deegan would have to be the favorites as a team.


Jett would have them covered for Australia most likely. Possibly giving Australia the edge for top 2 riders eith Hunter being thereabouts with Chase snd Eli. But Deegan as rider 3 is a huge advantage for USA.


 

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7/6/2025 2:35am

Chase's MXoN reaction in my post-race interview was interesting...

Listening to that interview was almost uncomfortable. Guy seems like he cannot stand being on that team, to the point where he can't bring himself to do another race with them and give his bosses the satisfaction of racing MXON, even with the race being a few hours from his hometown. Seems personal, not just bike setup issues. Would love to hear the real story someday. 

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7/6/2025 5:02am

Chase's MXoN reaction in my post-race interview was interesting...

truck wrote:
Listening to that interview was almost uncomfortable. Guy seems like he cannot stand being on that team, to the point where he can't bring himself to...

Listening to that interview was almost uncomfortable. Guy seems like he cannot stand being on that team, to the point where he can't bring himself to do another race with them and give his bosses the satisfaction of racing MXON, even with the race being a few hours from his hometown. Seems personal, not just bike setup issues. Would love to hear the real story someday. 

Starting to see a pattern..

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7/6/2025 7:45am

we need jcoop as 2nd 450. 

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Top 2 U.S. 450 Riders in the points.

Top U.S. 250 Rider in the points.

All of which comes down to who’s healthy and/or if their team will allow it…etc.

As for Chase not wanting to go? Well, under the provisions stated above, he doesn’t make the grade. So, who cares.

Me, hell, I’m hoping Japan sends a team so we can see Jo! I’m hoping Canada has a good showing. The Aussies sure seem like a good bet! Who’s Italy gonna send? (I’d send TC in MX3). What’s the Puerto Rican hat-trick gonna be?

No matter. MXoN is gonna be stellar…again. 

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7/6/2025 7:48am

I think Chase and Eli will not be able to race.

 

Deegan sounds like a lock for 250, case closed.

I would go Justin Cooper - remember his RedBud mxon ride on the 250?  Legend.

Plessinger would be perfect.

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7/6/2025 7:55am

Chase's MXoN reaction in my post-race interview was interesting...

at least drop the time stamp

Dude, its at the end of Chase's interview, and Chase was the first interview, with RJ coming on at 10:25.  Just FastFWD to about the 9:00 mark.  Admittedly, the Chase interview was hard to listen to, my wife even commented on it while she was making breakfast and I was listening to it.  There is NO freaking way Chase rides MXdN.  That dude wants to part ways with KTM so bad, it's blatantly obvious.  I don't know what has transpired to create such disdain, but it's clear he's not in a good place with that team.

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7/6/2025 11:49am
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I think Chase and Eli will not be able to race. Deegan sounds like a lock for 250, case closed.I would go Justin Cooper - remember his...

I think Chase and Eli will not be able to race.

 

Deegan sounds like a lock for 250, case closed.

I would go Justin Cooper - remember his RedBud mxon ride on the 250?  Legend.

Plessinger would be perfect.

No AP, he hasn’t preformed like we know he can, he doesn’t preform under pressure.

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