Dear Honda

I agree

You going to moto it

While we at it…. Please re-release the 96 CR250 with modern brakes & suspension….

Just wish that they could build a modern xr650r with the same bodywork as the CRF’s/Dakar bikes. 

a real potent adventure bike between the Africa twin or the crf300l.

Make more Z50s and trail 70s..

The bad part is that most people buy the CRF450Rl thinking that's it's a bigger 300L and people buy the 300L thinking they can add accessories and get it on par with the 450RL. They are worlds apart from each other.

Ari Henning does make a big bore for the 300L and it will utilize the CBR300 cam.

I owned the first generation 250L Rally and it was a great bike for the price. For basically 5k you got an off-road capable street bike but it definitely has its limitations on highway lol. Every time I rode with a group of larger Adventure bikes I would always say the bike needed an extra 50cc so Honda must have been listening. The 300 is a huge improvement over the 250 especially bottom end power where it really needed it, the 250 never had explosive power but could handle itself well on most things. I definitely agree the 350 is probably where that bike should be but for the price you can't beat it. I had so many fun memories on that bike and did some very impressive trails that amazed me that it made it through. I still have it in my garage but have since upgraded to the Tenere 700 which has been an absolutely amazing bike. 

One wonders of they still have the jigs and tooling for the 96. 
That would be neat if they could re-release old bikes and profit. 
Perhaps not enough of us willing to buy. 
 

Where was this you were riding?  Beautiful!!

These are all various sections of the WABDR and OBDR. Essentially routes that take you through various forestry routes and trails systems through Washington and Oregon. They have them in a number of states now: https://ridebdr.com/

I wanted one for so long that I finally went for it once my job asked me to begin commuting in more days a week so I justified it to my wife that it would save us money if I rode instead of driving my truck lol. Anyways just took it on the WABDR two weeks ago through some of the rockiest nastiest sections and it handled amazing well. Was concerned about it's weight and power being too much moving up from a 250L Rally but it was great honestly just need to tweak a few ergonomics and probably stiffen the suspension up eventually but overall was so impressed with its performance.

I am lucky & fortunate to have 3 different adventure bikes, sort of a “small/medium/large” or the “close/a state over/head for the horizon” ride lengths! 🤪 I bought the Rally the first year Honda released the 300, to ride with a buddy that had a 2019 250!
It’s the perfect scooter for the days when a ride is in order but not enough time to load up the YZ, drive to the ride area unload etc! The Rally is perfect for grabbing a helmet & goggles, zip out to the riding area, fold the mirrors down and enjoy a quick off-road loop, then cruise to the local burger shack for dinner as the sun sets!

I added a Race-Tech spring kit, my fav 0’ rite bend of Pro-Tapers, some folding mirrors and a set of Tusk pannier & tool rack, grabbed some small Northern Tool camera boxes to haul rain gear or a sandwich in!
My buddy has since sold his 250 & replaced it with a 300 and I just added the Race-Tech springs to his as well! Fun little scooters with a great reliability etc! A 350 would be cool but I am sure having a great time with the friendly little Honda 300! 😎 👍❗️

I was just thinking this as well, but do it to the regular 300l as well, I recently bought a used 2024 crf300l and just finished converting it into a supermoto and the reason I went with a 300l was reliability and maintenance intervals, I have a yz250 for the track and trails but I wanted something rock solid reliable to ride to and from work and around town on, if honda could bridge the gab between the 300l and 450l and keep the same reliability and maintenance intervals that would be a game changer

Yup, I've long said Honda could have quite an ADV bike in the form of the 'BRP'.

They could use the top end  (and crank?) from the TRX700 - it's something like 686 / 689cc -, and that was an  EFI induction system, with an E Start.

So, an engine capacity right at the KTM Groups 690 /700 area, and, having ridden all versions of them, and, and having ridden a mates 650R, and tried a few when I was looking to buy one a couple of years ago, I'd put up an engine like that, it's chassis and suspension, up against the KTM group bikes.

A stronger subframe perhaps, and the Rally Fairing - or, the now more common Clear screen / big tank as std. An, Honda could dipp into any of there better front light system from other models parts bins.

Something I'm (pretty much completely ) unsure about, is if the TRX cases could take an extra gear, to get 6, that many would Demand. On the parts listing, I saw an Idler gear in the main gearbox diagram, but then, I think it was called, a separate reduction gear case parts listing. So, I assume this was an addition / major change between the 650R and the TRX700 lower end. 

I think it would be an absolutely brilliant bike, without making an Entirely new bike, from absolute scratch. 

I just wish we could still get the  XR650L here in OZ. I want a New bike, that I can keep into (well, further into) my dotage, that's simple, works incredibly well for such an old design, and, that there are So Many parts available for. Many of which I already have. Cripes, it appears to be only around $400 /$500 USD more than the 300 for you Americans. You could pick up a used large capacity tank, fit any one of many Screens that are available, and, off you go - with far better suspension, handling / power and torque than the 300. They have the same weight listed for both bikes - sure, a screen, larger tank and a couple of other things will put a few pounds on the 650L, but, you'd have a better bike, easily. If you are a short arse, something like a Kouba link would drop the seat height from the 650Ls 37", to the 35.2" listed for the 300. Not to mention that the 650Ls seat is far more comfy than the 300S.......

Ah well, it's all just wishes and wants from a silly old man.

Race ready 89 125,s for vintage racing.   A ton of 95-97 125,s out there along with 02,03 125,s.  And quite a few 04-07,s . 

Been racing fhe BRP at V2R for about 6 years. It’s a Cadillac in the Dez. 

And, my mates ADV'd BRP, is a Cadilac on the Roads  - Tar, or Dirt. While still being great in more demanding off road usage.

It would be such a trick thing to have as competition to the KTM Groups 690 /700 triumvirate . I think, it could easily be a better thing . 

I found a few, one of which I almost bought, but the CFab E Start kit while not that expensive, needed a zillion OEM parts from, if I recall correctly, come from one of the TRX450, and / or other Honda models. At the time, I just had too much going on, to try yet another 'project'. 

Note, I have nothing against the 690/ 700s - good things, that almost  fit my " I've no need for a F**king Land Yacht to go touring OZ, or, other places, Worldwide" viewpoint.

I wish Honda would make use of a very, Very fine base they had. 

Forgive my ignorance fella’s, guess I am too dumb to know what you guys are referring to?! What is this “BRP” of which you speak? 🤔 🤪 👍❗️

BRP = Big Red Pig

Oh Hahaha! Thank You! I was strainin’ the brain trying to come up with the meaning of “BRP”! 🤪

Dear Honda.....

ホンダさん、素晴らしいバイクを作ってくれてありがとう。CRF350Lが欲しいです。

If the people on these web boards who are constantly wishing Japan, INC would build XYZ two stroke/four stroke/dual sport, etc (fill in the blank) were  all that serious about riding the bikes they describe, they would probably find something very close to what they want from Europe. 

Forget Japan, they just play follow the leader with each other and have little interest in what the market actually wants.

It's a logical thing - they will be bringing back , a New KLE 500, that was sold between 1991 to 2007, if I recall correctly.

Honda have had the NX500 for a few years now. Sharing that engine, in around 5 different styles of bike. 

And, there are a few Chinese made  450 (500?) twins now, that, a few are a bit more dirt oriented than the KLE and NX. 

Such as the CFMoto 450MT - I had a 2 day ride on one, and, it was not a bad, (relatively)  Little bike. I believe it was largely what was to become the KTM450 /500 Twin that was mooted for some time.

And, there's the Aprilia Tuareg 457 that is  set to / rumored to be released around October this year. 

Perhaps Kawasaki will go to just a tiny bit more ADV, than just an ADV 'look' commuter bike. I'd like to see a more ADV'd direction from them, as, the Japanese are leaving that side to the Chinese manufacturers, a bit too much, I reckon.

Since the Minitrail/Monkey reboot (with a 125cc fi engine) has been successful for them, how about an SL70 replica, street legal, with the same engine.  And available in candy-apple green paint.

I love the Tenere, but I still kept my Beta dual sport.  Tenere is heavy in the tight stuff.