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I could see the travel i.e. flying being a definite component to all this. Remember when it seemed like every other week riders were getting Epstein Barr? I remember the discussions but dont remember what some of the reasons we thought it was from.
I excelled at crits but I did it all.
I did a stage race in Puerto Rico. I won the crit stage, beating some big names, one guy had just returned from the Olympics.
Optimal training doesn't look much different between me doing crits and my friend doing UCI stage races (he was based in Belgium, raced in Europe, S. America, and Central America). The grand tours might be different, but those guys are all on PED's so it's not a fair comparison.
The longest weeks (20-30 hours) would be during base training (low intensity, long duration) in the off season as the end of a buildblock; ex 10h week, 15h week, 20h week, 25h week, then rest week.
12-20 hour weeks (including racing) was pretty standard once the season got going, as was taking a rest week every 4-6 weeks. The hard days were much more intense than most people will go, the easy days were much easier than most people will go.
Those hours are with NO coasting during training.
Clearly a possible scandal of the highest level! In the interest of transparency we need proof. Perhaps in a clear jar to show at press conference. Would that work?
I flew for 10 yrs for work every 10 days switched divisions then it was 21+ days. We worked 7 days a week 84-124 hr weeks on the strongest hhg rig. We worked in snow storms in up state Ny. To hurricanes in Florida , it was crazy. I never got sick once. All the food is from chain restaurants it’s the same everywhere. I del liquid fertilizer in totes this spring. I joked with them that I ate the white Bebe sized fertilizer when I was little on the farm. I ate quite a bit of it actually. Probably why I was 5,8 beginning of 7th grade. Haha .
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Fair enough. Building in to a block like that would be typical if you don't have much fitness, but myself and others I trained with would never do something like 10,15,20,250. Maybe 20,20,25,25,35 or something like that, but your wasting a lot of time if you're going to start a base block with 10 hours, is that like 2 rides that week or something?(if you've been off the bike for an extended period of time that might make sense, otherwise not IMO)
Anyway, cool to see you raced at a high level as well. Hope your still out there on the pedals
He shouldn't do it either and when he gets all fucked up and puking and shitting his brains out don't bring your ass to the ER. Stay home and suffer so you will remember not to do that again.lol you should know better!!
Fat boy Webb never seems to get food poisoning and he's on the McDonald's Diet.
Diuretics used to dilute urine, to mask the use of PEDs, are well known to cause symptoms resembling food poisoning.
Same, It wrecked me for about a month or so when I was in my 20's. I have never been more sick in my life.
I think a lot of riders been on them since 04 the 4-st take over. The 1/2 life on peds for Mx testing is soo easy to cheat. Now if everyone is on them it’s pretty equal. But I don’t think they work the same for everyone. I know of countless bros at the gym on roids not everyone has the same results.
Beef Wellington with dried mushrooms. Lol.
It always strikes me how much dirt/dust these guys breathe in during a moto. With all the mold, urine, feces, spit, various bacteria and germs and junk it has in it the stuff can’t be too healthy to get in your lungs.
Remember when people used to wear bandannas while riding?
When I go riding on dusty, busy days with a lot of other people I tend to have what I’ve always called a dirt track hangover the next day.
I’ve had food poisoning once in like 15 years, so I’m not too experienced with it. What’s weird is I know exactly what gave it to me and it wasn’t until the next morning that it hit me. I ate plenty of different things that night, but even the thought of Tyson frozen boneless hot wings makes me sick to this day
We had a local guy who raced pro and he's said that he averaged just over 25 hours a week on the bike each year. He was good enough to win a stage at the TdF and had several other race wins as well in a 14 year pro career.
25 doesn't sound like a lot, until you would have to be the one to actually do it!!!!
Many years ago when he was still just a newer ProTour rider for Cofidis, he broke his kneecap and came back 'home' for rehab (his dad was an orthopedic surgeon) and raced in the local Tour de Bloom. I remember taking my oldest son down to watch the criterium race downtown and it spanned into the night. It was incredible how fast those guys would go over terrible road surfaces, including train tracks on one part of the race. Even the junior guys were absolutely flying. The picture and the video below are from more recent events, I'm pretty sure and the course isn't quite as rough as the one back in the 2007-2008 events.
I raced that old crit course, was kind on the side of the hill with turn 1 leading to a short uphill and turn 3 short down hill. Probably did something like 400 watts NP for the race lol it was tough, and always had some good fields in P12 with solid squads coming down for that and Walla Walla
You're talking about Tyler? I rode with him a few times back when he would come home on winter break. He was a monster
I was 26 or 27 at the time and seriously thought I was going to die so many times throughout the whole deal. I lived on water, chicken noodle soup and crackers for months. I don't wish any of that on anyone.
Mine was a Wendy's chicken sandwich and it hit after about an hour or so.... No way in hell I'm touching one ever again
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I could see it. These guys are on pretty strict diets from what I've seen and heard. So any changes can upset gut health pretty easily. After I got out of training I sat down to have a celebration meal and ended up being stuck to the toilet for a while.
Sorta something now, I have gut problems and have to be locked into a pretty healthy diet. Eating outside of it tends to cause some problems for me, and it can take days to clear up.
The use of bottled water only is essential for the GP guys as tap water in certain places is a guarantee for illnesses. DeWolf touched on this in an interview.
It’s fairly common for pro cyclists as well, which I think is an apt comparison.
for MOST of these guys that are flying commercial, sharing rooms in hotels, eating take-out....I can totally see how a bug can get passed around seriously easy with these guys. they ALL hang out and know one another....
Chicken is risky to eat traveling . Even if you make it within 2 hrs of sitting out after grilling it . You can get sick from it. The black x con murder I trained called me & said I hear cases hitting the flour. I asked what product is on the Bol? He said breaded chicken. I said is the reefer on -20 ? He said it was but I set it on 32. He didn’t know what he changed it. That 43k ld was gone. Same co had smart reefers the office could change the reefer temp. They changed a frozen ld temp to 32 degrees on me. I sister the reefer kicking in so parked & checked the temp . Then made a phone call on who changed the temp . If I knew the trailer say ld pre plan says -20 but this reefer stays around -10 & warms up to -4 . I leave it at -10 , -20 its too loud & uses too much fuel . The temp swings a lot but a good trl at -10 only gets to -4, I,m good. A Mexican co was parked next to me a few months ago . I saw him outside & said hey your reefer doesn’t sound rt & what is in the trailer ? He said ice .it was set at 34 degrees a river was running out of it . Reefers break down sometimes a warehouse will still take it . Spotted cow beer if it’s chilled then sits in your car it gets a weird flavor . There told not to chill it b4 sale now. It’s only sold in Wi. Out of state folks love it but complained & said don’t chill it b4 we buy it. Massive cut backs in trucking & in maintenance. I see reefers at -10 then 44 degrees . It’s risky to eat now especially traveling.
This phone constantly changes words. I didn’t hear the reefer kicking in so I parked and checked the temp . Is what I typed .
You keep Wendy's outta this. Those are fighting words. 🤣
Huh, Spotted Cow Beer is a thing...cool.
Yeah, he was an incredible athlete. I was always sort of surprised that he wasn't a better climber with the terrain he grew up with but I suppose at that level the difference between a climber and a sprinter is largely created by genetics! My wife was actually a medical coder in his father's practice for a few years.
Here's the two different courses. The blue on only has about 20-30' of elevation change going uphill NE-SW, but it sure seems like more. And the old abandoned rail line that cut through the alley on the blue course and across the streets were pretty jarring, I'd imagine.
This is a big factor. If I have a cheat meal I feel like crap, upset stomach on the toilet or not even able to go. Same as you can take days to clear up.
Yea I recall that crit beating the shit out of me. I think there was also some brick somewhere in there, maybe between turns 1 and 2 or something like that. Riding it at night with sketchy lighting made for a fun time lol not
Back then there was a lot more actual brick on both the hills, especially Orondo Ave. The south 'hill' had brick at least 5' each side of the rails and asphalt before and after that. They have never matched up very well, either, and even in a car you would get annoyed by it!
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