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Motorcycle Industry Council on tariffs.
If you work in the USA’s MC Industry you know who the MIC is.
https://www.micsymposium.com/_files/ugd/5e5627_cb8a95c3588c4c7d9031812fca110e91.pdf
Seems pretty straight forward. Based on the downvotes, people don't understand that this is exactly what happens.
Here are examples from the bicycle market where Specialized and Trek have already announced price increases. Any product coming out of China will definitely increase in price.
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/industry-digest-reaction-to-us-tariffs-ca…
Looks like a Chinese commercial.
Buy your hoses in America. Oh, that's right, sent all that manufacturing ability to China.
And China has always been a fair trader regarding American goods... right.
I'll take Trump any day of the week.
Some people are just so blind they can't look past what actual tariffs will do to prices in the USA.
This was explained previously, when the Chinese trolled US consumers...
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Some people don’t like fair trade!!!🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
You can't bring common sense in here this is vital we have to argue about everything stupid🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Way to bring politics to Vital!
I'm guessing this is the OP's way of saying his hose kit prices are increasing. 🤷♂️
What the clown in the video doesn't understand is, this isn't a game about who pays the tariffs or the fact that prices go up. This is 100% about brining manufacturing back to the US. A country can't survive and ever thrive by solely being a consumer society. A country has to make products and manufacture goods. This is about boosting manufacturing in the USA, which brings higher paying and better jobs for the middle class and lower class Americans. This is the foundation of what made America a great country. And by driving manufacturing away from the US over the last 40 years mainly to China, this is what has increased the standard of living in China and boosted their economy. This is all about driving businesses to manufacture in the USA, brining higher paying jobs, and sustaining the American economy long term. It's short term pain, for long term gain.
And, it's working. Our company is getting many new RFQs for equipment solely made in the USA. My only complaint is that we are having problems sourcing some components here in the US - that's how bad things have gotten with respect to buying american made components. We simply can't find what we need in some cases and have to go outside the US. I couldn't give two squirts of piss about the tariff price on the components we have to source outside the US. The overall impact on the price of our products are negligible. We just can't get the parts we need.
2-3 Years down the road, the USA will b thriving with growth this country hasn't seen in over 50 years.
And then there are the people out there that think Trump and Elon Musk are actually stupid. Ya, 2 men who have built their businesses into empires worth billions, one of whom is landing rockets returning from space - what other entity (including NASA) has accomplished that? Musk went up and rescued astronauts from space NASA was trying to bring back for 9 fucking months and couldn't get it done. Elon got it done in 3 days. If you all are so damn smart and its so easy, why isn't your business worth billions?
the quality of many chinese goods are getting scary good. we're 50 years behind in some categories. post-war boomer corporation party is over gents. time to make up for lost time or we'll be a vassal state with no buying power.
"What the clown in the video doesn't understand is, this isn't a game about who pays the tariffs or the fact that prices go up."
The OP was pointing out that importers and consumers pay the tariffs and prices go up, the "clown" as you call him was pointing out the same thing.
You can argue the merits of the tariffs in the non-moto section.
What's scarier is Chinese goods have been working their way up the value tree, 20 years ago it was cheap toys, now it's consumer goods, cars, machinery, AI, etc.
Working in a factory manufacturing Barbie dolls and assembling iPhones are not going to be good paying jobs.
Why did we need this?
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Wow, that woman(?) carrying that huge bag of chinese crap must be really strong!
Give your head a shake - WALL St and the sharks who own most of it sold us out long ago ! ! now that they have the power u think they want less of it lol ?? You think the top .01% whom have most of the wealth now won't have even more x10 in 3.5 yrs ??? Let's check in then
Reason I posted it is according to the Motorcycle Industry bikes, parts and gear prices will be going up soon so you better stock up before the jump!
Since you brought it up Our prices are fine and in fact we are drastically lowering all of the non current models to make much needed room on the shelf’s.
BTW back surgery is scheduled for July 1st so will be shutting down for a few week's.
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The US greatest asset in the modern world is our intellectual capital. Moving back to a manufacturing economy is a literal step backwards, and countries like china already have the means, infrastructure, labor, economies of scale and and know-how that we could not compete.
Yes, letting other make your food, drugs, technologies etc. is a great idea until they pull the plug.
Manufacturing is not coming back to America and even if ...that would need to be a 5 to 10 year plan.
Also, if it did in a big way, expect a massive increase in the toxic pollution rate to air, lands, lakes, rivers. Thousands of factories will have to dump their toxic waste somewhere, under trump there will be no epa regulations.
For the Olympics in China they had to stop production until the yellow tinted air could clear, imagine that here.
Any new manufacturer that decided to build a factory in America, it would be highly automated with robots doing 90 percent of the work, which means a minimal work force.
Then there's regulations, supply chain redistribution, workforce expenditures why? They'll sit tight and wait trump out, until he's out of office or dies.
Americans are not going to work for $4 an hour, no breaks and no benefits, any reasonable pay rate and benefits would price that product out of the reach for most... example. 4k cell phones made in America.
And mass deportation
Could you imagine white Americans picking tomatoes in the hot California sun... Ya, I don't think so.
Tarrifs are killing the farming community which was already strained, if not for federal subsidies most would already be under....wait for it $25 for a gallon of milk.
Most of if not all countries are fed up with American trade because they always go back on their agreements and rightfully can't be trusted.
We get 60% of our energy from Canada, our refineries are set for their crude, where else are we going to get it, south America? Just the cost to ship would drive up gas prices....$15 dollars a gallon?
Canada realized they can be a major player in the global economy.
China has offered them a great deal to buy the crude that the US was getting and in turn spend billions on Canada's infrastructure. Ports outside US waters to ship crude and goods... US could be out in the cold.
Canada put the US on notice that the electricity going to many northern US states will be cut off in 2029. Yaaaaaaa for the us.
The tarrifs trump imposed made it quite evedent globally that countries can not put all their eggs in one basket and they need to diversify and not depend on the US trade/dollar..... hence drop in the dollar.
China has already won, they hold all the cards, all trump did was prove that to China and the rest of the world, that's why he's now grovelling to China to make a deal ...any deal.
If brics, China, Japan, Canada, Mexico and other countries make a pact and trade away from the US in a Unified currency, look out for a major long lasting deep, deep, depression and a worthless dollar....have you checked the price of gold? Take guess why it's so high.
Trump wants to bring back the guilded age, oligarchs at the top leaving 99% of the country's population scrambling for scraps.
Well to be fare , Musk is against the tariffs and many have pointed out that if Trump had just put his money he inherited into some sort of interest paying account instead of all of the businesses he has ran and lost money on, he would be ahead of where he is now.
How will using the Tariffs to negotiate with other countries help those Factories be built here so You can source the stuff You need from a US company? After the Tariffs go away will the US provide giant tax incentives to keep them here? Costing more in lost taxes than the jobs provided often pay.
I would love to see more stuff made here. 2 or 3 years is not long enough to get that to happen though. If we are talking about building NEW factories and bringing industries to the US that have not been here. You would be lucky to build the building for the factory in that amount of time. Its not going to happen quickly enough to do, without having the majority of people willing to suffer and sacrifice for it to happen. They will get voted out before anything happens.
Even if China drops their Tariff's to 0 on goods imported to China from the US, and the US dose the same. How will that help keep those shiny new Factories open? The messaging about what Trump want to accomplish with tariffs is all over the place and seems to be more of a stock market scam than any real plan.
I have gotten Emails from many suppliers about prices going up. Not just stuff from China, but from just about every country. EVEN the stuff made in the US. My printing supplies, and the other stuff from that part of the world. Blank shirts, etc. As well as multiple Powersports industry focused trade publications having articles on tariffs and what to expect.
That's the biggest problem, is its so hard to know what to expect. How do You plan for something that is being done by somebody who seems not to have a plan. I say this because the stated reasons change, and tariffs get paused for reasons that are not the ones stated for putting the tariffs in place. If this was Biden doing it, everybody would be calling for him to step down. Just ask Yourself, what if it was Biden doing it, what would You think? Personally ,I think no matter whose doing it, when done this way, it has a good chance of failing and almost looks like what somebody might do if they were trying to destroy the US.
I'm sure a lot of bigger companies have stocked up on product and will be able to keep their prices lower for a while . But this is going to kill off some medium and smaller companies. Big guys should be fine.
Perhaps so people can get ready to pay a lot more for stuff they need. OR stock up now if they can. Seems as relevant as the sales that people post about.
I personally try and stay very neutral politically. And do not discuss politics with people outside of my immediate family . I hate that politics is invading every aspect of life. But unfortunately this is VERY moto related in my opinion. Or sales on moto products are also NOT moto related.
As a filthy euro i find the whole thing amusing from certain viewpoint. What i see is a near future where no tariffs are made in place but due to the "masterplan" and fuzz about them happening in the past the price increase is here to stay all over the world.
Basically big middlefinger to the customer. Panic (like it did with covid stuff, energy, etc. before) increases profits to the top wealthiest scum. Enjoy supporting your favourite trillionaire master while your lesser purchasing power drags you back to the slavery bit by bit. The democracy is too good of a concept for current gullible and ignorant populus all over the world. A tad sad actually.
Direct quotes from Musk on tariffs. Not as cut and dry as you try to point out.
Elon Musk said on Tuesday that he doesn't like high or unpredictable tariffs, but any decision on what happens with them "is entirely up to the president of the United States."
He added that he's an advocate for "predictable tariff structures," as well as "free trade and lower tariffs."
Musk also said, "If some country is doing something predatory with tariffs," or "if a government is providing extreme financial support for a particular industry, then you have to do something to counteract that."
Most of you guys are just Ef'ing liberals and are anti-Trump. You'll never get it. Not worth arguing about it. Feel free to reply, but know I won't be reading it. Just wasting key strokes. 2 years from now, US economy will be far better off.
Feel free to reply, feel free to point out where I’m wrong but I won’t read it. Haha. I see why you like Trump.
I hear the Hurricane factory is ready to go to take advantage of this, even with the mikuni carbs and showa forks,
Daddy’s money and charisma, not intelligence, got them rich,
You can laugh at fruit pickers, but I did this for a bit, contract work (paid per amout I pick, not per hour), 10 years ago, and was clearing about 800$ / week cash. Good money if you're willing to actually work.
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