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For good measure heres the video. Also if you ever saw the restrictor plates put on the cars its crazy. I would guess they could get 1000hp without them. It's 4 little holes im guessing the size of a quarter on the intake that's bigger than a cantaloupe.
https://youtu.be/Dg4JoDmlgWw?feature=shared
Thanks for the video. I think it’s ridiculous that a car from 50 years ago can smoke one from today. It should be able to go as fast or faster and remain relatively safe.
55 at that too. I have no dog in the fight I do understand people's concerns. But it seems Nascar is all about safety now. Should the ama do the same? I can see both sides. I could only imagine what the new cars could do if they let them run full bore. People casually talking about nascar and mentioning how the older cars were faster and they look at you like you're nuts.
He started looking off about 1/2 lap before the crash, slow to get his feet back on the pegs when exiting corners, etc. Was expecting him to back it down, rough crash hope he has a quick recovery.
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I noticed the same thing, from about 9:45 left on the clock you can see he's not cornering great and it looks like the shock is losing compression damping.
I wonder if he was having a shock issue that contributed to the crash?
These guys Egos and balls are too big. They would still just hit it wide open and crash lol
Most motorsports have to slow things down every so often. Hopefully we won't wait until we have a high profile death or two that forces the issue like other series have. Moto should start thinking about it now.
Not sure how you'd even go about slowing tracks down in a way that they wouldn't just launch walls or make quads where it wasn't intended etc.
....but that will upset the "fans" who demand their entertainment.
for me Supercross is something to watch in the winter, just waiting for the outdoors to start!
Restrictor plates on 250s and 450s for SX with the goal being to cut 25% of their power?
And Bobby Allison damn near ended up in the grandstands. Just because you can does not mean you should
Are bikes too fast now? Maybe. But they’re not that much faster than a works 250 2 stroke, at least not in the 250 class where there are just as many injuries.
Also tracks were probably sketchier 20 and 30 years ago too so I doubt that’s the issue.
Recently I’ve started to realize that bikes just handle so damn well now that everyone from kids to vets, novices to pros, are going faster. And speed is the difference. When things go wrong, they go bad really fast and the impacts are huge.
Even if they somehow restricted power, I don’t think it would change anything at this point.
Equipment that the riders mostly won’t wear won’t help either. It’s just a dangerous sport. I love it still but I’m glad my speedier days were in the 80’s and 90’s and not now.
I hope another death does not occur. Jason Cirletta (sp) died in sx late 90's early 2000's. I don't remember details.
It's progression technology wise because the cars are going faster than they were since the latest rule changes and max displacement was lowered.
If the max displacement hadn't been lowered since the 70's, cars would be doing 250MPH by now.
I don’t care what displacement they are. I see a NASCAR from 1970 going significantly faster than today, which is mind boggling.
They should have worked on technology that would keep them going the same speed safely, not slowing them down. From a racing standpoint, the cars are inferior today. Racing is about going faster.
Racing is about the first person getting to the assigned distance in the shortest amount of time. If the car does not survive or you do not you lose.. If riders are injured or worse crashing at the speeds they are going you are going to run into issues. Physics eventually comes into play. Can suspension absorb the impacts at a certain speed?
If you want increased speed you are going to have fewer obstacles that are smaller to compensate.
Was Kitchen's crash because his bike was too fast?
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Maybe. But when you crash at a slower speed, you have more time to respond, and fewer bones are broken. It's time to slow things down a notch.
Jeez with how hard he folded up like that it's lucky he's still walking
Shit...the human pretzel shot is painful to look at.
Ugh, that's enough internet for me... G'night fellas.
A fading rear shock could definitely cause the bike to kick like that.
How do freestyle guys get hurt then? Their speed is much slower than SX but their injuries are usually worse.
If bike speed is the issue, why did no 450 guys crash on the same jump? Their bikes are much faster than Levi's 250
Obviously speed is a factor for injury, but it would be naive to think restricting the bikes would reduce injuries.....unless it was restricted to the point that they are riding 110's, essentially changing the sport so much that it's not the same.
They are 30-40 feet in the air many times. Falling 3 stories will hurt when you land on flat.
In this case, the 450s are heavier, so they carry more momentum over bumps, craters, etc...
But, my thoughts are that part of the reason 450s didn't crash there is that the 450 riders are more experienced than the 250 riders, so they're SAFER on the more powerful bikes.
My entire point is that the faster you're riding, the less time you have to react to anything that goes awry, including how you get off the bike, plus you hit the ground harder.
I'm not suggesting that we make the bikes slow. I'm stating that we need to manage the speed one way or another instead of letting it increase unabated for more than a half century. Think about what would happen if we add another 10HP to the bikes, both 250 and 450?
That is so cool how guys are right place at right time. Those are some great pictures. Nice job who’s ever they are👍
I don't think you're going to find many that agree a 250f is too fast for pro racing. It isn't. Kitchen didn't crash because his bike was too fast, he made a mistake.
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