Lawrences vs Mirtl Lawsuit Details Emerge

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I wouldn't be surprised if there's some coke/adderal type stuff flowing through his veins, but I genuinely think it's more a product of his environment and...

I wouldn't be surprised if there's some coke/adderal type stuff flowing through his veins, but I genuinely think it's more a product of his environment and just basic greed. 

Last I knew he lives in Newport Beach, CA. I lived there and Dana Point for about 7 years until 2020, and it's truly a crazy environment. The cost of living to live a very basic life is astronomical by itself, and then you're surrounded by people living a very unrealistic lifestyle. Whether it's trust fund kids, Bitcoin/Crypto millionaires, Executives of Corporations, Insurance moguls, Capital Investment folks...the money seems endless. You've got to be grounded and realistic about what lifestyle you can truly afford to live there. 

I have a feeling between that and being around his clients who make millions, he believed he was one of them and was entitled to the same lifestyle. The OC life got him, IMO. It's so damn common in that area to get caught up for shit like this. I actually left in 2020 after discovering my business partner was funneling funds to his wife for sales commissions that didn't exist. Decided I needed to do business in an area where people are less concerned about their image and appearance, and more likely to be patient and play the long game. 

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He is basically a neighbor of mine, in North Texas

PabstBR11 wrote:

I noticed they said he was a resident of Texas, With what you posted he lives in North Texas? Im in the Grapevine/Colleyville area.

He lives in prosper 

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Federal prison is like a country club . It’s full of investors that ripped people off.Troy aikman & other nfl 90,s stars had millions stolen . He got 18 months & laughed all the way to the bank. The players never got a nickel.   I,m out about the same amount of money in wages .  But iL. States truck drivers hv no rights to get paid. There paid off by Eastern European organized crime & the government, state police r paid off , judges r paid and bought ,  etc, etc.  Jett ,s a multi millionaire so he can hire a attorney for big money .  I,m bringing IL. Into Tribal court 100 bucks the Indians hv hundreds of millions from the casinos.  Chicago is a bankrupt city.  Will be pushing for Chicago to display the land deeds that where forged .  Dekalb iL. Lost a 175 yr court battle when they showed forged land deeds last yr.  There’s hundreds of millions of dollars laundered threw Chicago from Eastern Europe Russia ,Serbia ,Lithuania,etc . The government knows this because they clip a piece of the money along with other corrupt people in Chicago.  Good that the family is busting the guy. But don’t expect to get any money back . Or expect to be in front of 5 million broke truckers fighting to get there money. And justice haha that’s funny because there is none in America .  

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Welp whoever said it would be in the form of "loan to be paid back EOM" early in the. OG thread called it. Spot on. 

 

Also, how many qualified and heavily prefaced sentences will it take JT$ to admit Mirtl probably isn't a high-character individual? This goes 1000X beyond ML getting behind on WCL and coming out with hat in hand (sorry ML). 

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Tyler D wrote:

"August 21, 2024 – wire transfer of $7,500 to Balekian Hayes (divorce law firm); (ii) "

 

Is Jacob hayes' dad a lawyer? 

 

https://trellis.law/case/48123/24-9852-467/in-matter-marriage-lucas-mir…

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Kris Balekian-Hayes is a woman 

Question stands, is she related by marriage I wonder 

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jps256 wrote:

you haven't read the other thread

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Thank god. 

Sir, just for your inflamation that other threat is national pleasure and should be oppressed as one.

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2/1/2025 12:53am
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If I was the Lawrences, I would just lean on Wasserman to make them whole (they are the deep pockets). He was their agent and employee...

If I was the Lawrences, I would just lean on Wasserman to make them whole (they are the deep pockets). He was their agent and employee. “We don’t care how it happens, replace our money and YOU get reimbursed, sue, whatever. We can’t deal with this s - - t. We have races to go to. Just make it so.”

By the sounds of it, the donuts venture was run somewhat outside the bounds of Wasserman. Therefore, Wasserman would not be liable. And have acted appropriately by firing him. By the sounds of it, Mirtl thinks his firing was unjust. However, I would imagine Wasserman has ensured they can terminate anyone, for anything at any time. Anyway, it could also be a building of different things too.

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MX-Files wrote:
If I was the Lawrences, I would just lean on Wasserman to make them whole (they are the deep pockets). He was their agent and employee...

If I was the Lawrences, I would just lean on Wasserman to make them whole (they are the deep pockets). He was their agent and employee. “We don’t care how it happens, replace our money and YOU get reimbursed, sue, whatever. We can’t deal with this s - - t. We have races to go to. Just make it so.”

By the sounds of it, the donuts venture was run somewhat outside the bounds of Wasserman. Therefore, Wasserman would not be liable. And have acted appropriately...

By the sounds of it, the donuts venture was run somewhat outside the bounds of Wasserman. Therefore, Wasserman would not be liable. And have acted appropriately by firing him. By the sounds of it, Mirtl thinks his firing was unjust. However, I would imagine Wasserman has ensured they can terminate anyone, for anything at any time. Anyway, it could also be a building of different things too.

I was wondering about that as well. This might not be as clear cut, even though it's shady shit in there. 

If Mirtl was part owner and/or authorized signatory in a separate company where these transactions took place it will be messy. Specially if no shareholder or specific agreement was established. 

Personal loans from a company is typically forbidden in a lot of jurisdictions, American llc it is allowed with some ifs and buts. It is still not a good look to pay those private expenses, even if he would have owned 51%, it's a very bad look. 

Maybe that is what Mirtl is referring to, the accounts was not under Wasserman supervision or management so that would be a surprise and in his eyes wrongful termination. That's also why you won't see a lawsuit from Wasserman side. 

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We’re still trying to find a way out for Mirtl I see….


There’s no reasonable explanation for this. Stop trying to grasp at straws. 

I’m not spending the time, do a business search for jettson donuts LLC. You’ll see the ownership structure won’t have any of the what ifs your implying. 

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Snail wrote:
We’re still trying to find a way out for Mirtl I see….There’s no reasonable explanation for this. Stop trying to grasp at straws. I’m not spending the...

We’re still trying to find a way out for Mirtl I see….


There’s no reasonable explanation for this. Stop trying to grasp at straws. 

I’m not spending the time, do a business search for jettson donuts LLC. You’ll see the ownership structure won’t have any of the what ifs your implying. 

He's listed as one of 2 managers of the LLC.

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Snail wrote:
We’re still trying to find a way out for Mirtl I see….There’s no reasonable explanation for this. Stop trying to grasp at straws. I’m not spending the...

We’re still trying to find a way out for Mirtl I see….


There’s no reasonable explanation for this. Stop trying to grasp at straws. 

I’m not spending the time, do a business search for jettson donuts LLC. You’ll see the ownership structure won’t have any of the what ifs your implying. 

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

He's listed as one of 2 managers of the LLC.

I see 3 other officers. Weird to me that Mirtl has 3 different addresses. 

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Manager < owner 


Paid to manage the company/money


Not use it for his daycare expenses. 

 

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2/1/2025 6:06am

Came here to see Pro’s response and was not disappointed. 

THESE DAMN TRUCKS MAN! IF ONLY THEY DELIVERED THOSE DONUTS ON TIME NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE HAPPENED!!! 😔

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Came here to see Pro’s response and was not disappointed. THESE DAMN TRUCKS MAN! IF ONLY THEY DELIVERED THOSE DONUTS ON TIME NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE...

Came here to see Pro’s response and was not disappointed. 

THESE DAMN TRUCKS MAN! IF ONLY THEY DELIVERED THOSE DONUTS ON TIME NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE HAPPENED!!! 😔

I love skimming his posts to see the journey he takes us on from start to finish. Troy Aikman, Lithuanian money laundering, and an army of truckers on poverty wages.

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Snail wrote:

Manager < owner 


Paid to manage the company/money


Not use it for his daycare expenses. 

 

Owner = my money

Manager = not my money

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Snail wrote:
We’re still trying to find a way out for Mirtl I see….There’s no reasonable explanation for this. Stop trying to grasp at straws. I’m not spending the...

We’re still trying to find a way out for Mirtl I see….


There’s no reasonable explanation for this. Stop trying to grasp at straws. 

I’m not spending the time, do a business search for jettson donuts LLC. You’ll see the ownership structure won’t have any of the what ifs your implying. 

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

He's listed as one of 2 managers of the LLC.

pbody wrote:
I see 3 other officers. Weird to me that Mirtl has 3 different addresses. 

I see 3 other officers. Weird to me that Mirtl has 3 different addresses. 

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You seem to have found a better site.

Listed 3 times with separate addresses seems odd to me, but perhaps it's required for contact reasons. 

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MX-Files wrote:
If I was the Lawrences, I would just lean on Wasserman to make them whole (they are the deep pockets). He was their agent and employee...

If I was the Lawrences, I would just lean on Wasserman to make them whole (they are the deep pockets). He was their agent and employee. “We don’t care how it happens, replace our money and YOU get reimbursed, sue, whatever. We can’t deal with this s - - t. We have races to go to. Just make it so.”

By the sounds of it, the donuts venture was run somewhat outside the bounds of Wasserman. Therefore, Wasserman would not be liable. And have acted appropriately...

By the sounds of it, the donuts venture was run somewhat outside the bounds of Wasserman. Therefore, Wasserman would not be liable. And have acted appropriately by firing him. By the sounds of it, Mirtl thinks his firing was unjust. However, I would imagine Wasserman has ensured they can terminate anyone, for anything at any time. Anyway, it could also be a building of different things too.

aees wrote:
I was wondering about that as well. This might not be as clear cut, even though it's shady shit in there. If Mirtl was part owner and/or...

I was wondering about that as well. This might not be as clear cut, even though it's shady shit in there. 

If Mirtl was part owner and/or authorized signatory in a separate company where these transactions took place it will be messy. Specially if no shareholder or specific agreement was established. 

Personal loans from a company is typically forbidden in a lot of jurisdictions, American llc it is allowed with some ifs and buts. It is still not a good look to pay those private expenses, even if he would have owned 51%, it's a very bad look. 

Maybe that is what Mirtl is referring to, the accounts was not under Wasserman supervision or management so that would be a surprise and in his eyes wrongful termination. That's also why you won't see a lawsuit from Wasserman side. 

What's your take on the $240k from Alpinestars? That gets a little into his core duties. I still think Lawrence's end up joining WMG to the suit. 

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Careful, he loves to run his mouth about everyone on Vital in a general sense, but absolutely can't handle ANYTHING negative directed toward him in any...

Careful, he loves to run his mouth about everyone on Vital in a general sense, but absolutely can't handle ANYTHING negative directed toward him in any way. 

GuyB wrote:

Give it your best shot. 😀

GuyB your posts are giving, former employee who likes to take jabs at customers now that he doesn't work there any more, vibes. 

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Snail wrote:

Manager < owner 


Paid to manage the company/money


Not use it for his daycare expenses. 

 

ando wrote:

Owner = my money

Manager = not my money

Actually in an LLC the managers are the owners.

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Sounds like Lucas's personal chocolate Dougnut is going to take a bashing if he loses this case and ends up doing jail time?😜

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Snail wrote:

Manager < owner 


Paid to manage the company/money


Not use it for his daycare expenses. 

 

ando wrote:

Owner = my money

Manager = not my money

DonM wrote:

Actually in an LLC the managers are the owners.

Members are the owners, not managers

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By the sounds of it, the donuts venture was run somewhat outside the bounds of Wasserman. Therefore, Wasserman would not be liable. And have acted appropriately...

By the sounds of it, the donuts venture was run somewhat outside the bounds of Wasserman. Therefore, Wasserman would not be liable. And have acted appropriately by firing him. By the sounds of it, Mirtl thinks his firing was unjust. However, I would imagine Wasserman has ensured they can terminate anyone, for anything at any time. Anyway, it could also be a building of different things too.

aees wrote:
I was wondering about that as well. This might not be as clear cut, even though it's shady shit in there. If Mirtl was part owner and/or...

I was wondering about that as well. This might not be as clear cut, even though it's shady shit in there. 

If Mirtl was part owner and/or authorized signatory in a separate company where these transactions took place it will be messy. Specially if no shareholder or specific agreement was established. 

Personal loans from a company is typically forbidden in a lot of jurisdictions, American llc it is allowed with some ifs and buts. It is still not a good look to pay those private expenses, even if he would have owned 51%, it's a very bad look. 

Maybe that is what Mirtl is referring to, the accounts was not under Wasserman supervision or management so that would be a surprise and in his eyes wrongful termination. That's also why you won't see a lawsuit from Wasserman side. 

Tyler D wrote:
What's your take on the $240k from Alpinestars? That gets a little into his core duties. I still think Lawrence's end up joining WMG to the...

What's your take on the $240k from Alpinestars? That gets a little into his core duties. I still think Lawrence's end up joining WMG to the suit. 

Why would WMG be a party to a lawsuit they had no hand in controlling or managing? Funds in question most likely came from a venture outside of WMG's scope of work, Mirtl just has feet on both sides of the isle.

WMG will fuck it's clients over behind closed doors all day long but will not tolerate it when dirty laundry becomes public. The Agency business is the shadiest business known to man, outside of divorce lawyers. 

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Careful, he loves to run his mouth about everyone on Vital in a general sense, but absolutely can't handle ANYTHING negative directed toward him in any...

Careful, he loves to run his mouth about everyone on Vital in a general sense, but absolutely can't handle ANYTHING negative directed toward him in any way. 

GuyB wrote:

Give it your best shot. 😀

bro, your body of work speaks for itself.

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aees wrote:
I was wondering about that as well. This might not be as clear cut, even though it's shady shit in there. If Mirtl was part owner and/or...

I was wondering about that as well. This might not be as clear cut, even though it's shady shit in there. 

If Mirtl was part owner and/or authorized signatory in a separate company where these transactions took place it will be messy. Specially if no shareholder or specific agreement was established. 

Personal loans from a company is typically forbidden in a lot of jurisdictions, American llc it is allowed with some ifs and buts. It is still not a good look to pay those private expenses, even if he would have owned 51%, it's a very bad look. 

Maybe that is what Mirtl is referring to, the accounts was not under Wasserman supervision or management so that would be a surprise and in his eyes wrongful termination. That's also why you won't see a lawsuit from Wasserman side. 

Tyler D wrote:
What's your take on the $240k from Alpinestars? That gets a little into his core duties. I still think Lawrence's end up joining WMG to the...

What's your take on the $240k from Alpinestars? That gets a little into his core duties. I still think Lawrence's end up joining WMG to the suit. 

avidchimp wrote:
Why would WMG be a party to a lawsuit they had no hand in controlling or managing? Funds in question most likely came from a venture...

Why would WMG be a party to a lawsuit they had no hand in controlling or managing? Funds in question most likely came from a venture outside of WMG's scope of work, Mirtl just has feet on both sides of the isle.

WMG will fuck it's clients over behind closed doors all day long but will not tolerate it when dirty laundry becomes public. The Agency business is the shadiest business known to man, outside of divorce lawyers. 

Vicarious liability. Welcome to America

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Tyler D wrote:
What's your take on the $240k from Alpinestars? That gets a little into his core duties. I still think Lawrence's end up joining WMG to the...

What's your take on the $240k from Alpinestars? That gets a little into his core duties. I still think Lawrence's end up joining WMG to the suit. 

avidchimp wrote:
Why would WMG be a party to a lawsuit they had no hand in controlling or managing? Funds in question most likely came from a venture...

Why would WMG be a party to a lawsuit they had no hand in controlling or managing? Funds in question most likely came from a venture outside of WMG's scope of work, Mirtl just has feet on both sides of the isle.

WMG will fuck it's clients over behind closed doors all day long but will not tolerate it when dirty laundry becomes public. The Agency business is the shadiest business known to man, outside of divorce lawyers. 

Tyler D wrote:

Vicarious liability. Welcome to America

There is zero liability on WMG at this point. Mirtls' issues are outside of WMG's scope of work if it is indeed just a Jettson Donuts account issue. The tell in this situation is the Lawrence's kept WMG as their representative of record.

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From my previous experience of an owner / member of several LLCs, one or more of the members (owners) are designated as the manager. I have never put an employee of an LLC on the articles. 

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robkinuk wrote:

Sounds like Lucas's personal chocolate Dougnut is going to take a bashing if he loses this case and ends up doing jail time?😜

Bad day to have eyes and read this. 

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avidchimp wrote:
Why would WMG be a party to a lawsuit they had no hand in controlling or managing? Funds in question most likely came from a venture...

Why would WMG be a party to a lawsuit they had no hand in controlling or managing? Funds in question most likely came from a venture outside of WMG's scope of work, Mirtl just has feet on both sides of the isle.

WMG will fuck it's clients over behind closed doors all day long but will not tolerate it when dirty laundry becomes public. The Agency business is the shadiest business known to man, outside of divorce lawyers. 

Tyler D wrote:

Vicarious liability. Welcome to America

avidchimp wrote:
There is zero liability on WMG at this point. Mirtls' issues are outside of WMG's scope of work if it is indeed just a Jettson Donuts...

There is zero liability on WMG at this point. Mirtls' issues are outside of WMG's scope of work if it is indeed just a Jettson Donuts account issue. The tell in this situation is the Lawrence's kept WMG as their representative of record.

How vicarious liability works

Vicarious liability is based on the idea that the party in control should also be responsible for the actions of the party they control. 

Vicarious liability is a type of strict liability, which means the responsible party is held liable regardless of their intent or knowledge. 

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