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Friese had something to do with it?
Yep lol. The blatantly made up stuff some post on here is wild, then the response will be "oh I was mistaken blah blah blah"
No, you weren't mistaken. If you don't KNOW something, maybe don't post it? Boggles my mind lol
Is this where I say I know but can't say?? 🤣
He actually did deny it. His exact words were that he unequivocally denies the allegations against him.
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I can offer a minor personal situation from years past. Our shop closed and the owner of the company gave me some equipment, fully legit in very clear writing. It's not the kind of thing you talk about with coworkers due to the whole, "hey, why didn't he give me something!!" problem, so I never talked about it. Came to find out that some people had a slightly.....different, view of what happened.
This was my thought listening to the interview. Lawrence’s made an accusation, agent denies it, now time to wait and see what unfolds.
I think there's a lot of bros blowing bros. Agents are hustlers not professionals.
Seriously? Is there anything in the world that is not a conspiracy according to Kooksey?
My daughter needs a car so I’m going to give her mine and move to Thailand. I like to hear different opinions on any topic but man does he make himself hard to listen to.
That shit had me cracking up just thinking about the thought process. My daughter needs a car… I have a car! If I uproot my entire life and move to Thailand, I won’t need a car and can give it to my daughter.
How is that the solution you end up at to get some wheels for your kid?!
Agreed. If I was being accused of theft, and I wasn't a thief, I would make an unequivocal statement to that fact. Then I'd stfu and let the lawyers handle things. His tepid denials reek of some level of guilt.
Like any fraud case, there's got to be opportunity, pressure, and rationalization. I don't know if he was buying himself a few beers, fancy dinners, or exotic cars with the Lawrence's funds, but I'm sure in his mind, he internally rationalized that he's entitled to the expenditures. But deep down, he knows it's wrong, thus the lukewarm defense.
That was my thought process. Is there a Sports Agent Industry board? Or a qualifying exam? I’m making a gross generalization here, but it just seems like a lot of super educationally unqualified guys doing some high level interacting with high sums of money. Interesting.
Google it. The agent business has traditionally been about schmoozing. They leave the technical shit to the in-house lawyers and accountants.
I thought it was a real flex by Steve to have Mirtl on the show and handle it fairly, including disclosing that he considers Mirtl a friend. Somewhat weird responses but also revealing like it being a civil but not criminal issue. Sort of distracting with Mirtl with (?his kid) in the background, but was an interesting listen.
I find it odd that the Lawrences chose to give so much information in their IG press release. Would seem to be more prudent to just say "terminating their relationship" and let questions go unanswered until legal issues are settled. Perhaps it was so personal to the and clear Lawrences that they took that extraordinary step to accuse Mirtl of stealing.
"Following an initial investigation, we became aware of and in possession of evidence of misuse and misappropriation of our personal funds by our agent Lucas Mirtl for his benefit and as of 9 a.m. this morning we have fired him"
?Initial?!! must be damn sure to say that or super-pissed or both if after an initial investigation you go public with that statement.
You're emphasizing the wrong word in that sentence. "FOLLOWING" is the critical word. If they released something and said something like they think Mirtl is stealing and they are investigating, then yeah that would have been crazy.
I read it as they had the initial investigation, predicated by someone discovering something, and the investigation yielded enough evidence to fire him.
Be careful, you'll have all the experts come at you that a huge company like WMG would never post that publicly if they did not know for sure.....and it is completely fine to blow out employees publicly.
*former
Lol kind of the point. But keep going, you're doing so well.
As you can see in this industry we can have agents without credentials, journalist without journalism degrees, people negotiating streaming deals that have no clue about streaming…but us vitards are the ones that don’t understand what a tow is 😂
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Didn’t Mirt come over as a mechanic and bro his way into the “agent” world. A few years ago I had heard what these guys were making and looked at what qualifications were needed to be an agent and found absolutely nothing. That whole charade boggles my mind. Anyway, I am not feeling his hands are clean and the Lawrence’s and Wasserman confirmed the dirt before pulling the trigger.
This is in no way meant to be even a sliver of a defense for Mirtl, because I think agents are all greaseballs eventually it's just a matter of when it hits full bore, but anyone thinking that WMG isn't some kind of shady needs to do some research into who the head of the snake at Wasserman is.
Again, still knowing that WMG is sus doesn't mean Mirtl didn't do what they are doing. Just stating WMG is by no means some squeaky clean conglomerate.
Speaking for myself, I never meant to imply talent agencies were some bastion of high morals and ethical business practices. Just a brief investigation into the history of huge entertainment based agencies like William Morris and CAA will confirm they’re mostly hugely profitable dens of snakes. But my point is that they don’t get huge without copious CYA procedures and armies of lawyers backing them up. They shitcan their agents all the time, without fear.
That said, Mirtl might work out a better settlement for whatever the hell went down, but nobody at WMG is sweating over these small potatoes.
Remember that story about Ricky Johnson giving his agent/manager full rights to all of his accounts so he didn't have to think about anything but racing? I think that all went well but even RJ money back in the day is too much to turn a blind eye.
Now we know where Deegan's Aussie SX start money went. 😅
Imo most know what it means and some probably would really like to be, but all have found out that you cannot earn a living in mx media working like that.
I'll withhold judgement on if he did anything illegal, i agree with you on the innocent until proven quilty part.
But i'm not withholding judgement on his 'agent'-skills based on what he showed in crisis management, communication and writing skills and decision making in the last couple of days. So many mistakes its insane. So if i was a parent of a Coenen, Lawrence, Prado, etc level mx talent no way i am letting him manage my sons career.
Well it's quite severe allegations, if found guilty he is pretty much screwed for life.
That’s why the first thing he should have done is lawyer up. No emotional IG posts and no Pulp interviews. Need a statement? Here’s my lawyer’s number.
Same like Davi's locker
😂😂 nailed it!
It's been said multiple times what was in Davi's locker... This is no longer a mystery.
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