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It sits right alongside the Supermotocross World Championship…
EDIT - actually WSX is slightly more legitimate as a world championship
Well, bro, are you angry?
Do you need a Snickers?
I surely don't hate this series. I simply have a hard time seeing it as a World Championship when I watch the races. That's all.
How so?
I don't think he knows. You have to cut Don some slack. He is one of our geriatric members.
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No hate at all. Any honest assessment would conclude that WSX is not the premier supercross championship. It’s not even close.
Traditionally the term “World Championship” implied it was the top level. That is not the case here, period. Again, no hate what so ever.
Explain it for me big D
Not angry at all except maybe how a regular Snickers bar is now about the size of a fun size when we were kids. haha
I wasn't necessarily referring to you. generally, you're pretty levelheaded. My argument against your point was mostly semantics. FIM owns the World Championship so they can call it that. We all love Kenny, but I don't think anyone in the world would say Kenny was the best SX racer in the world last year, but he was World Champion. FIM owns that title and If the AMA wants to call Jett World Champion, they have to cough up some money like they used to and then go back under the draconian heavy handed anti AMA rules of the FIM.
We’ve been getting “Downsized” since the insanity of the panickdemic kicked in and it seems the size-scale of all things fun is on an ever-lasting journey of disappointment since then…
But, I digress.
Started way before the covid pandemic.
This year was a Great series — even the tiny arenacross track somehow provided some Great racing.
And my partner watched SX with me and WSX and was like ‘the commentators seems way more excited in WSX…’
It might feel like 2014 but it just goes to show batshit boring the —- podcast roundtable who can say the most theoretical things while the racing is happening and not actually be excited be the racing — the 2024 version of SMX commentary is. The podcastathon commentary makes the amazing racing feel so fucking boring for anyone not completely plugged in…
It’s so dumb.
I hope that 2025 SMX is a return to commentary and being excited about the racing on the track and not the endless ‘takes’ by the 6 different people competing for who can have the best ‘take’
I have really enjoyed watching the series, I hope they can keep building and adding races.
Maybe the global fan base can save the sport. It seems pretty tapped out here.
I actually said something similar about the announcers to my dad. Having 2 american accents in the booth for an international series also makes it seem like more of the same. Didnt they have paul melin snnounce one of the races? Lets get some accents back in the booth so it sounds more international. I def agree that the same 2 guys from supercross years past makes it seem like youre watching an old race.
Guys are going to opt out of the nationals more than ever if it becomes a well paid series.
London Stadium...Is that West Ham's new place? When I saw London I figured Daniel Levy picked up another way to sell seats in his stadium.
When they were at Villa Park a few years back, there was a post on IG showing a little kid getting real emotional meeting Kenny. That looks like a win/win to me. Roczen & Tomac pick up some nice guarantees & a few fans around the world get to see them in person.
I doubt I'll watch though. I heard enough Ralph & Emig when they were here, and I never want to hear about "glacial till" again.
Control your emotions dude. FIM controls the rights to the world championship and feld gave it up. No one is saying they have the more competitive series then The US but they have the rights to call it the World Championship.
yep, west ham home ground, And the main stadium for the london olympics, with the premier league starting in august i wonder how this will work,
You’re out of touch. World championship should be the best riders from all around the world. It shouldn’t matter where the tracks are built. The riders are competing not the tracks. Hence why Prado is coming to the USA to compete in SMX.
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From Wikipedia:
Still other competitions, most commonly in professional sports, may or may not have a true world championship but may designate the winners of a domestic competition to be "world champions". This is especially true of the "Big Four" major professional sports leagues in the United States and Canada; world cups and championships exist in all four of the major sports, but the domestic U.S. and Canadian leagues are generally known as the world professional championships (due to the best players worldwide being in the league itself).
Add SX to the list, same reasoning applies, it's just semantics, the definition of world championship is a bit different in the US (and Canada) than in the rest of the world, it's a cultural thing.
Having just watched the international supercrosses (Aussie series, Paris, AusX Open & WSX) it struck me as laughable (but also a little sad) that AMA SX is the only one that doesn’t just stick to calling the racing.
WSX is here to stay.
FIM owns the name, they are in the business of selling rights and odds are pretty good they'll find a buyer at some price to to keep continuity on the record books.
It's cool as an off season series, would be nice to get GP guys to race American series guys, maybe they'll pony up some cash on the future for Gajser and Herlings to race the AMA old timers. Or with the Lawrence's wrapped up in AusX Open I could see Danger Boy being a multi-time World Champion in the future, if the paycheck is right.
If they try to run it during SX or MX season they can fuck right off.
Yeh has Tomac, Roczen etc but no Lawrence brothers
I don't think Eli and Ken would be racing AMA races if they weren't making alot of money there either.
actually the fact the prize/start money sucks here and yet everyone still comes here to race says everything.
if you want to make money thru endorsements commercials etc.. brand presence. you have to be where the market is and prestige is. wsx is none of this.
wsx show is terrible, its buyin its stars to show up. that is NOT a recipe for long term success. call it how you want, don't care....but if you have any sense of business at all u would understand what keeps the wheels turning on series's like this.
wsx looks and feels like an arena cross who paid 5 fast guys to show up., it is what it is.
Ralph and Eli’s statements were prepared for them by their WSX employer. It does sound ridiculous given the limited series and top tier attendance but anything to see good racing in the off season is cool with me.
They are not being paid start money just to show up and I can guarantee that if they didn't get start money from WSX they wouldn't be there.....so there's that...
Don, how can you say they are not being paid start money to race AMA races? They are under contract to go to the races, If they don't show up they don't get paid!
Tomac just signed a 1 year contract to race SX, MX and SMX, that is start money, he's not showing up for free and taking home what he wins. He gets paid no matter his results, the winnings is a bonus.
Call it a contract, start money, or what ever you want, he is paid to line up on the gate.
Well said. Talk about the racing going on on the track, leave the stories for in-between racing, lead ups, and post race.
So if they didn't get paid their salaries to race AMA races they would show up to AMA races?
Difference between start money and contract salary is start money is paid by the promoter to show up at their race and the contract salary is paid by the manufacturers to represent and race their brand motorcycle...WSX would not survive without Ken and Eli (and still may not)....SX will survive without them...
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