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I was off work for a bit due to strike first time I watched day time tv. There were ambulance chaser lawfirm ads every commercial break. Back to back of one another.
Everytime I watch broadcast TV I lose a little more hope. National TV advertising costs big money so when all you see is insurance, lawyer, pharma, and car commercials remember that your insurance premiums, Medicare withholdings, and $50k car loan are paying for all those commercials and you only really have a choice in selecting 1 of those things to pay for.
‘Free market’ healthcare means the highest healthcare costs in the developed world and the ONLY developed country where medical bankruptcy is a ‘thing’…. Because if this, there 4 options
1/ have the exact right insurance that covers injuries incurred in this sport, in that state with that exact series of events being covered — likely the insurance will pay out and then sue the organisation themselves…
2/ be rich.
3/ be famous enough to to be able to promote a go-fund me (more free market company taking a little off the top) and actually get enough money to assist you and cover medical expenses… where less than 12% reach their goals https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2022/02/05/most-gofundme-campaigns-for-medical-bills-fail-less-than-12-reach-goals/
Or 4/ sue whoever, it doesn’t matter, but sue them yourself, or face bankruptcy.
That’s the free market working as intended…
A ‘free market’ has never worked anywhere ever.
The only way the illusion of a free market works is when a government option provides downward pressure on private providers forcing them to compete on price, service and product… primarily to keep required expenses affordable.
Make healthcare single payer and it’s cheaper for everyone and it forces health insurance companies to compete with the public market… and it prevents medical bankruptcy and it drastically reduces the need for litigation to literally survive.
But somehow people on this forum think more free market means more better while the free market jacks up prices and jacks up profits…
It’s strange that people can’t see the stock market shooting up and their prices shooting up and not correlate these… instead blaming government for… the free market increasing their profits at your expense without a public option to put downward pressure on them…
Healthcare, education, housing, energy, roads, public transport, insurance should all have public options… a free market will always fuck over the user of the product to maximise profit…
And this free market is directly why these tracks are being sued and or can’t afford insurance.
That’s the free market at work baby!
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You have sadly been conditioned to fear the communism of…
EVERY SINGLE DEVELOPED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD…
While you struggle, complain, blame the wrong people, lift up the billionaires and still live with the fear of communism… the richest person in the world, who receives more direct government money than any other person, said ‘you will need to feel some paid to get through this…’ while that cut taxes for the rich while promising to raise the deficit at record levels… but at your have the ‘free market’ to price gouge you more…
Deregulation won’t save motocross, it will kill it. The free market won’t save motocross, it will kill it. If you want what you once had as a country, look at what the policies, union membership and taxation levels were then and now… the free market needs to be reigned in and controlled by the people… or motocross will fucking die.
Oh man this again 🫣
You either face up to reality and fight against the increasing oligarchic control making everything more expensive and in this case causing track closures.
So either ‘free market’ urban sprawl forces tracks to close or ‘free market’ insurance simply means they can’t afford to stay open…
everyone else before me on this thread just ‘complains about the cost’ and then pushes back when being told the cause of the increased costs…
It is the ‘free market’ at work mah boi
Everything I don't like is an evil free market rrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Meanwhile those things are all regulated beyond anything reasonable.....
Crash over a berm- you go right to jail..
Not clean your air filter- right to jail
Show up with dirty boots- jail
Electric bike- jail..
Here in North Carolina if I want to ride my motocross bike on a track entry fees are about $30 for the day. It used to be $5. If I want to ride my super bike on a track for the day fees are roughly $250. How much would the average motocross rider be willing to pay to ride his bike on a track for the day? What is a fair price?
When I was a teenager, the local track was free to ride at. The owner of the track just wanted people to ride with. He had the land, the time and money and a bulldozer. It was awesome. We could ride every day for free. in my 20s, we had a track right outside of town that was five dollars and we could ride every day. It was awesome. I’m too beat up for the bumps and bruises of motocross. I wish I could ride my super bike on the track every day. I’m not that rich.
Go back to the Dumbgeon where you belong.
A lot of people out here, but awesome to see everyone out here. Tracks put together for the GP style track was awesome. Hoping this isn’t the last weekend.
I would become an AMA member if they setup a well managed insurance fund for our tracks to prevent this from happening
Same.
I would be happy to pay into the AMA if they did this or anything useful that helped offroad and Moto stuff actually.
Track was absolutely awesome today. Hopefully this all gets figured out and we don’t lose this awesome place..
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Stop bringing truth to a ‘feelings’ fight…
You’re not intelligent.
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Yes, anything that would support local tracks
If ya'll would pay $50 to practice instead of the usual $35, a lot of tracks would be able to keep their heads above water a little more. That's an extra $1500 a day for a 100 rider turnout. I know it would be much higher for Fox or Cahuilla as they get much larger crowds on average, but people are cheap.
Anyone ride Cal City MX? Thinking about making the trip up north sometime.
I’m not. But I’m also not ignorant.
Great news! Man, losing a local track is crushing….there have been times when I had no good places to ride… It hurts….
Sorry to the moto-brothers that might lose a place to ride. Keep fighting…maybe a GoFundme deal would be a good way to help short term. Long term? It’s got to be a complete change in regards to liability laws. There’s a ton of issues that are created outside of motocross due to liability laws needing adjustment. Cops, doctors, etc……they deal with so much liability pressure that it affects their desire to help people
Single payer healthcare is the way to save motocross.
Trying to create a patchwork of solutions and regulations around the insurance industry, whose profits go up when they DON’T cover healthcare costs… as apposed to a single payer system where the incentive is to keep America working and producing… and therefore back to full health as quickly as possible. The incentive is to provide healthcare not to withhold it. Americans already pay so much more per person into an industry incentivised to keep as much of that money as possible… it’s the free market at work baby.
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Next up- the motocross community needs more DEI…
its not quite that simple, as single payer healthcare countries like Australia and Ireland have insurance issues as well,
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