Sleep… night before race

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I’m struggling with good sleep the night before a race. I’ve been experimenting with Melatonin and Tylenol PM, however I’m not feeling refreshed. Throughout the day I’m feeling tired and sluggish.

What are your routines to get a good nights rest?

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sandman768
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10/3/2024 2:33pm

Get rest during the week, I don’t sleep the nite before either…. 

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10/3/2024 2:33pm

Take a short power nap during the day.

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Twisted Spoke makes a CBD/CBN capsule, and I'll usually have one or two of those about an hour before bed. No, it won't get you high, I don't feel any sort of effects from it other than well rested when I wake up in the morning.

https://twistedspokecbd.com/collections/cbn-for-nightly-support/product…

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The 3,2,1 rule works well for me. 

Finish eating at least 3 hours before bed. 

limit fluids for 2 hours before bed (so you're not waking up 2-3 times to piss during the night)

No screens/dim the lighting for 1 hour before bed 

 

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That stuff don't work...

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10/3/2024 2:42pm Edited Date/Time 10/3/2024 3:27pm

Don't self medicate.

Go see a MD/Dr.. it's more than likely over excitement /adrenaline which is really anxiety.  

Clonazepam or Lorazepam (1 or even 2 mg)  should be able to put you to sleep for at least 8 hours and you will wake up feeling calm and refreshed and clear minded. 

If you get prescribed them only use them the night before the race so that way you don't build up a tolerance or addiction.

Also with the meds I mentioned your GABA levels may still be a bit increased the next day which may help rid pre-race jitters a little. 

If he tries to prescribe you sleeping pills like Ambien  refuse it.  It will make you feel hungover the next day.

Also stay away from caffeine and sugar the day before the race. 

There's also breathing exercises you can do ect...(look online) that may help calm you enough to shut your brain off and calm your central nervous system enough so you can sleep.

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Race more. I used to be this way, since i started racing about every weekend I sleep fine and its just another weekend for me. 

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I long ago accepted that I don't get sleep the night before a race.

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10/3/2024 3:10pm Edited Date/Time 10/3/2024 3:14pm

Gummies and a little whiskey 

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I've always been a good sleeper. Never had an issue getting 7-8 hours before a race. Keeping a consistent bedtime helps.

That said, one of my best performances came the day after I went barhopping with my sister and her hot friend. I made myself go home at midnight, was in bed by 1:00, and made myself promise not to hit the snooze button. I made good on that promise, then I had a pretty strong ride in both motos. I don't know how, but I think it was all mental. 

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Try counting sheep!

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Falcon wrote:
I've always been a good sleeper. Never had an issue getting 7-8 hours before a race. Keeping a consistent bedtime helps.That said, one of my best...

I've always been a good sleeper. Never had an issue getting 7-8 hours before a race. Keeping a consistent bedtime helps.

That said, one of my best performances came the day after I went barhopping with my sister and her hot friend. I made myself go home at midnight, was in bed by 1:00, and made myself promise not to hit the snooze button. I made good on that promise, then I had a pretty strong ride in both motos. I don't know how, but I think it was all mental. 

I'm guessing you were young then.

 

Now that I'm early 40's sleep consistency is everything.

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Watch porn hub and go nuts 

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Two fingers of good Kentucky Bourbon, a chocolate chip cookie and marathon sex always worked for me.

 

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As long as you get a good sleep for at least 3 nights leading up to the race you will be rested enough. If you can't sleep the night of, resting with your eyes closed is the next best thing to actual sleep. Just don't get worked up about not being able to sleep. Steady meditation helps too.

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Paul_Jacky wrote:

Watch porn hub and go nuts 

This and a fat bong rip

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Learn how to meditate. It will change your life.

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Read the most boring thing possible.  Legal briefs, scientific papers which you have no knowledge of the subject matter etc.  Force it and you won't stay awake long.  

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Pound beers till you pass out

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Magoofan wrote:

Two fingers of good Kentucky Bourbon, a chocolate chip cookie and marathon sex always worked for me.

 

Marathon Sex? 2 minute miles?

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Read the most boring thing possible.  Legal briefs, scientific papers which you have no knowledge of the subject matter etc.  Force it and you won't stay...

Read the most boring thing possible.  Legal briefs, scientific papers which you have no knowledge of the subject matter etc.  Force it and you won't stay awake long.  

This guy is right.  Start reading the most dull shit you can find, and you'll be out quickly.  Google something important, like, say,  why are there holes in certain crackers?  Or, the origins, and reasoning behind Algebra in your daily life.....  Riveting shit like this should put you down real quick.  If bad comes to worse, look for old episodes of Hee Haw to watch, or  The Lawrence Welk show.  Lights out for sure.  

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FastEddy wrote:
Don't self medicate.Go see a MD/Dr.. it's more than likely over excitement /adrenaline which is really anxiety.  Clonazepam or Lorazepam (1 or even 2 mg)  should...

Don't self medicate.

Go see a MD/Dr.. it's more than likely over excitement /adrenaline which is really anxiety.  

Clonazepam or Lorazepam (1 or even 2 mg)  should be able to put you to sleep for at least 8 hours and you will wake up feeling calm and refreshed and clear minded. 

If you get prescribed them only use them the night before the race so that way you don't build up a tolerance or addiction.

Also with the meds I mentioned your GABA levels may still be a bit increased the next day which may help rid pre-race jitters a little. 

If he tries to prescribe you sleeping pills like Ambien  refuse it.  It will make you feel hungover the next day.

Also stay away from caffeine and sugar the day before the race. 

There's also breathing exercises you can do ect...(look online) that may help calm you enough to shut your brain off and calm your central nervous system enough so you can sleep.

Stay away from ambien but give benzos a shot? Lmao! At least you prefaced it with don't self medicate

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Really though if you can sleep normal the night before a race, then your dead inside…😂.

Sometimes I’ll wake up in the middle of the night and can’t fall back asleep thinking about moto parts I need to order..

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FeetUp wrote:
I’m struggling with good sleep the night before a race. I’ve been experimenting with Melatonin and Tylenol PM, however I’m not feeling refreshed. Throughout the day...

I’m struggling with good sleep the night before a race. I’ve been experimenting with Melatonin and Tylenol PM, however I’m not feeling refreshed. Throughout the day I’m feeling tired and sluggish.

What are your routines to get a good nights rest?

Exercise is always the best for a good night sleep, though you may not want to do that the night before a race. If you want to try melatonin, you gotta start with a super low dose or you'll be much worse off throughout the day. Try the low dose Tums with 5mg melatonin and then cut/bite it into four or six pieces and eat just one of those. Then go to bed the moment you get tired, because if you start feeling a little tired and think you'll hold off and stay up longer until you're really tired, that doesn't work. It just helps you fall asleep, not stay asleep, so go to bed the moment you feel like it's making you tired. 

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Eat clean. 

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10/3/2024 9:18pm Edited Date/Time 10/3/2024 9:21pm

Melatonin is actually more worse for you than they lead you to believe. I take 2 NeuroMag capsules from designs for health https://www.designsforhealth.com/products/neuromag#NEUMAG and 1 L-Theanine capsule from Protocol https://www.protocolforlife.com/l-theanine-200-mg/ my head hits the pillow and I’m out within 5 minutes. I wake up the next day refreshed, sharp, and ready to go. I take it every night before bed and it’s the best sleep I’ve gotten in years. You can get them both on Amazon as well.

 

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Marty1028 wrote:

Race more. I used to be this way, since i started racing about every weekend I sleep fine and its just another weekend for me. 

This^^^

chump6784
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10/3/2024 10:07pm

I generally don't sleep well the night before a race, especially a bigger race. Getting a good night sleep consecutive nights leading up to the race helps me. Even if I've had a shit night sleep the night before the race I'm more well rested because of the better sleep the night before. 

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10/4/2024 1:01am Edited Date/Time 10/4/2024 6:32am

Good sleep hygiene and aligning your circadian rhythm with nature is one the best things you can do for yourself. 

Light and food trigger cortisol and melatonin on/off which then affects brainwave frequencies, changing the state of consciousness. 

 

Key points - 

Sunset in your eyes and feet in the dirt.

3 2 1 rule

Dump whatever is in the brain onto a piece of paper

Breathwork - 478 (in 4, hold 7, out 8) or any count where the exhale is longer than the inhale. Huberman NSDR on Youtube is an alternative

 

Extras - 

Binaural beats on Youtube - theta to delta waves. Must wear earphones. 

Magnesium (forgot the subtype, regulates circadian rhythm, most people do not get enough through diet)

Float tanks (relaxes body, quiets mind, and absorb magnesium)

Sauna/Ice Bath

 

For me, I see sunset as the start of a new day. What I do from that moment on will dictate energy levels and how I feel when I wake up. Anything that promotes a shift in the nervous system to the parasympathetic state is going to help. The breath is the most direct way to shift states. 

 

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10/4/2024 3:06am

Mindset change helped me.  I was nervous about what was going to happen, how I was going to perform, would I screw up the start again.  I replaced that with curiosity.  I just ask “I wonder how it’s all going to turn out”.  Helps me sleep much better.

Also, visualising the various parts of the race day with me as the cool calm collected dude I want to be helps a lot.  I do this as a way to fall asleep anytime I’m having trouble, I run plenty of race days a week ha ha.  Your on the gate, heart rates high but not ridiculous, your pumped but not overly, gate drops your executing perfectly etc.  The goal is to control your breathing and heart rate and emotions while you’re visualing.  Just my method anyway, no science just works for me.

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