Haiden Deegan Out of MXoN Selection Process

8/28/2024 8:44pm
kylemenz1 wrote:
Ever seen the bone grow over the screws in a plate?  Those things cannot stay in forever. 

Ever seen the bone grow over the screws in a plate?  Those things cannot stay in forever. 

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Lol, Des Nations is literally 2 weeks after the last SMX race...bone growth literally has nothing to do with him not going. That is a BS...

Lol, Des Nations is literally 2 weeks after the last SMX race...bone growth literally has nothing to do with him not going. That is a BS excuse 

He has had the hardware in since before supercross, that's 8 months or so, and you still don't think that can happen?

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8/28/2024 8:50pm Edited Date/Time 8/28/2024 8:53pm

He has had the hardware in since before supercross, that's 8 months or so, and you still don't think that can happen?

If it was fine for 8 months then 2 weeks will literally make no difference. If it was that urgent he would've had the pins removed months ago

My brother had a similar wrist injury that needed pins and "bone growth" was never an issue, and he had the pins removed YEARS later. You're talking out of your ass 

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8/28/2024 8:52pm

I guess Degen thinks representing your country at MXdN is "for losers and suckers" Smile

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Holy crap! The Deegan Derangement Syndrome here is real!Fellas, fellas, relax, breathe! Deegs spoke candidly in an interview a few weeks ago. He alluded that he...

Holy crap! The Deegan Derangement Syndrome here is real!

Fellas, fellas, relax, breathe! Deegs spoke candidly in an interview a few weeks ago. He alluded that he wanted to have the hardware in his wrist removed following SMX and recover in time for SX ‘25, and that this is why he would likely miss MXON.

Good lord. 

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Nighttrain wrote:
Hahahaha, Washingtonstate, you are up for the Vital Post of the Year 2024!  Every freaking time Deegan’s name is mentioned in a MXdN thread it’s the...

Hahahaha, Washingtonstate, you are up for the Vital Post of the Year 2024!  Every freaking time Deegan’s name is mentioned in a MXdN thread it’s the same reaction from the same dudes. Almost all are from Australia. The Most Fitting Meme on Vital 2024 as well!

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I think you'll actually find that most are from the US.. there's probably 2 or 3 users from AU in this thread the rest are you're fellow countrymen hating on him atm

My 2 cents worth is who cares if he goes or not , all riders at the end of their career get remembered for how many championships they won, not how many MXDN's they went to.  

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So his wrist is good enough to be the dominant rider all summer but it is so bad that it needs surgery asap.  This surgery will...

So his wrist is good enough to be the dominant rider all summer but it is so bad that it needs surgery asap.  This surgery will take place after he races three more times one of them being two weeks before the Des Nations.  Excuse me if I think that it is a BS PR excuse.

971_Fan wrote:
Did you listen to what Haiden said? He said he could ride just fine with his wrist, but that it's better to have the pins removed...

Did you listen to what Haiden said? He said he could ride just fine with his wrist, but that it's better to have the pins removed sooner rather than later. 

 

Did you read mine?  We are talking about two weeks and one more race.

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8/28/2024 9:06pm Edited Date/Time 8/28/2024 9:09pm
Mikeh0870 wrote:
I think you'll actually find that most are from the US.. there's probably 2 or 3 users from AU in this thread the rest are you're...

I think you'll actually find that most are from the US.. there's probably 2 or 3 users from AU in this thread the rest are you're fellow countrymen hating on him atm

My 2 cents worth is who cares if he goes or not , all riders at the end of their career get remembered for how many championships they won, not how many MXDN's they went to.  

"all riders at the end of their career get remembered for how many championships they won, not how many MXDN's they went to"

A few of them are remembered for MXdN over everything else. 

Below is one such rider. IYKYK.

 

Danny Magoo Chandler

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Holy crap! The Deegan Derangement Syndrome here is real!Fellas, fellas, relax, breathe! Deegs spoke candidly in an interview a few weeks ago. He alluded that he...

Holy crap! The Deegan Derangement Syndrome here is real!

Fellas, fellas, relax, breathe! Deegs spoke candidly in an interview a few weeks ago. He alluded that he wanted to have the hardware in his wrist removed following SMX and recover in time for SX ‘25, and that this is why he would likely miss MXON.

Good lord. 

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Nighttrain wrote:
Hahahaha, Washingtonstate, you are up for the Vital Post of the Year 2024!  Every freaking time Deegan’s name is mentioned in a MXdN thread it’s the...

Hahahaha, Washingtonstate, you are up for the Vital Post of the Year 2024!  Every freaking time Deegan’s name is mentioned in a MXdN thread it’s the same reaction from the same dudes. Almost all are from Australia. The Most Fitting Meme on Vital 2024 as well!

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When he moves up to 450s and waxes Jett I think these guys are literally going to implode. Look out.

Have you seen Jett ride?  Clearly not if you think Deegan will 'wax him'. 

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Mikeh0870 wrote:
I think you'll actually find that most are from the US.. there's probably 2 or 3 users from AU in this thread the rest are you're...

I think you'll actually find that most are from the US.. there's probably 2 or 3 users from AU in this thread the rest are you're fellow countrymen hating on him atm

My 2 cents worth is who cares if he goes or not , all riders at the end of their career get remembered for how many championships they won, not how many MXDN's they went to.  

KurtJ99 wrote:
"all riders at the end of their career get remembered for how many championships they won, not how many MXDN's they went to"A few of...

"all riders at the end of their career get remembered for how many championships they won, not how many MXDN's they went to"

A few of them are remembered for MXdN over everything else. 

Below is one such rider. IYKYK.

 

Danny Magoo Chandler

Ok, I should have said most riders not all

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VHM wrote:

So Star thinks he`ll need 15 weeks to recover and be prepared for SX 2025, 13 weeks aren`t enough if he delays the surgery two weeks...

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That's the part that has me scratching my head. His wrist isn't bad enough to keep him from racing outdoors & SMX, but it's bad enough...

That's the part that has me scratching my head. His wrist isn't bad enough to keep him from racing outdoors & SMX, but it's bad enough that he has to have surgery pronto, or he can't be ready by the first East round in late Feb/early March? If he was racing 450 SX next year, I'd buy it, but this just seems like an excuse to me – and no, I don't think he's scared to race de Wolfe or Coenen, I think he just doesn't want to go to Europe.

I didn't think about East is starting later, but then we can add 4 more weeks or so 😂

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8/28/2024 10:18pm
Merry Deegsmas Fellas. Happy for you!

Merry Deegsmas Fellas. Happy for you!

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Nothing new about it, it's the same reason as last year!

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Yamabog wrote:

Deegan would 1-1 at MXDN and absolutely crush De Pup and 2 Coenens at the same time.

Can't crush anything with DNS. 

Next year there will be no problems to attend I guess , with home soil and all the advantages. 

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8/28/2024 10:40pm
BAMX wrote:
So his wrist is good enough to be the dominant rider all summer but it is so bad that it needs surgery asap.  This surgery will...

So his wrist is good enough to be the dominant rider all summer but it is so bad that it needs surgery asap.  This surgery will take place after he races three more times one of them being two weeks before the Des Nations.  Excuse me if I think that it is a BS PR excuse.

971_Fan wrote:
Did you listen to what Haiden said? He said he could ride just fine with his wrist, but that it's better to have the pins removed...

Did you listen to what Haiden said? He said he could ride just fine with his wrist, but that it's better to have the pins removed sooner rather than later. 

 

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Did you read mine?  We are talking about two weeks and one more race.

I did read your reply.  It would realisticly then delay surgery for 3 weeks or more beyond what it already being delayed. 

So what exactly is your issue with Haiden deciding to do what's best for his career?  

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8/28/2024 10:48pm
Sully wrote:

I'm far from a Deegan nut swinger, but your hatred for a guy who has no direct affect on your daily life is seriously unhealthy. 

DonM wrote:
People that try that hard to hate someone must have a miserable life...The guy is in every thread that even mentions Deegan with multiple hate posts...My...

People that try that hard to hate someone must have a miserable life...The guy is in every thread that even mentions Deegan with multiple hate posts...My favorite is when posted that he hates Brian and FMX and blames Brian for popularizing FMX and making it confusing for people to discern between FMX and MX....He's said it a few times and I just laugh everytime...

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Really, you don't think Brian popularised FMX? And that this hasn't muddied the waters between SX/MX and FMX? Just ask Joe Blow on the street about MX/SX...

Really, you don't think Brian popularised FMX? And that this hasn't muddied the waters between SX/MX and FMX? 

Just ask Joe Blow on the street about MX/SX and see what they say.  

Anyway, who cares if slam Brian Deegan?  BTW, I don't hate him.  You can think someone is an arsehole without hating them. 

Whatever he did 25 years ago, let it go.  People grow.

I appreciate what him and Marissa have done to give their kids their best chance in life.

They seem like a pretty close family.

The same with the Reeds.

I don't see anything recent that makes Brian an Arsehole.  If there is something legitimate, fill us in.  If there isn't, then let it go man.

I see a Dad doing the best he can for his kids.  All of them.

As far as FMX muddying the waters of SX/MX, it has probably brought more fans and exposure.  It's also pretty damn cool.

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Jfc, Im wheezing 😭😭💀💀

Jfc, Im wheezing 😭😭💀💀


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Bingo!!!!


Every time daddy brings over a U.S. flag to use as a prop they should be booed off the podium. 

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Captain america Dont want that smoke.😁

Captain america Dont want that smoke.😁

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I'm pretty sure he does.  He'll be racing those guys again soon enough.

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[quote]The decision, however, was ultimately in the hands of Star Racing. Brian also clarified that Haiden hopes to compete in the 2025 edition of the event...

The decision, however, was ultimately in the hands of Star Racing. Brian also clarified that Haiden hopes to compete in the 2025 edition of the event if he is deemed to be the best candidate for the job at the time that the team is selected.


How convenient! But they were okay sending him if Eli was going? Oh well.
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Why am I always hearing what Brian has to say. Ultimate child pageant mommy behavior 

Chase's, Tomac's, Jett's, Hunta's, and many other riders' dads are quite involved in their kid's careers.  It's rarely a problem. This is no different.

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8/28/2024 11:00pm
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Haha dudes doing turn downs off his signature jump at iron man and hitting a 5 pack, but I’m supposed to believe his wrist is in...

Haha dudes doing turn downs off his signature jump at iron man and hitting a 5 pack, but I’m supposed to believe his wrist is in urgent need of repair 

According to the statements, it's not in need of repair.  It's fine.  The hardware needs to come out sooner rather than later, to prevent further damage to his wrist.  I don't believe there's a good time to remove it, and the doctors aren't saying it's urgent.  They're saying don't wait too long.

So, would it make sense to wait until next year after SX, MX, SMX and MXoN?  How would that be any different?

To everyone saying he should race MXoN this year, when would be a better time to remove the hardware than between 2024 SMX and 2025 A1?

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8/28/2024 11:06pm

You have three rounds of SMX and Six to ten days of practice.  MXoN team could change at a blink of an eye.  

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You have three rounds of SMX and Six to ten days of practice.  MXoN team could change at a blink of an eye.  

Of course but what are you implying? Deegan would be back in if someone gets hurt? Notice how the reception around Eli bowing out in favor of AP has been met with practically zero backlash? It's because at this moment in time, AP has been better and Eli was humble enough to say that. You can't wait to pick the team two weeks before the event. Yeah, the team CAN change due to injury but why would someone who says they can't race it fill in at a later date due to one of the riders suddenly unable to go? Wouldn't that be extremely contradictory?  The team can change but it won't be for the better if any of the existing riders are unable to go.

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Rather than here about why Deegs isnt going to the MXoN, I’d like to hear about why that sprained wrist from before SX required all this hardware.  Why did he feel it necessary to lie about an injury?

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For a "free country" shouldn't we support an individuals decision to live their life how they want provided they aren't violating someone else's person or property?  

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For a "free country" shouldn't we support an individuals decision to live their life how they want provided they aren't violating someone else's person or property...

For a "free country" shouldn't we support an individuals decision to live their life how they want provided they aren't violating someone else's person or property?  

There's nothing in the particular concept of freedom on which the US constitution and Declaration of Independence is based that requires 'supporting' an individual's decision in the sense you mean.  What it requires is that you leave said individual to decide on their own plans for their life, or tolerate them. No one here is preventing Deegan from doing anything. What we are doing is exercising our right to free speech.  We can criticise Deegan all we want as long as this doesn't descend into defamation. 

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ACBraap wrote:
Rather than here about why Deegs isnt going to the MXoN, I’d like to hear about why that sprained wrist from before SX required all this...

Rather than here about why Deegs isnt going to the MXoN, I’d like to hear about why that sprained wrist from before SX required all this hardware.  Why did he feel it necessary to lie about an injury?

I honestly don’t know, and i’m really suprised they kept it secret given the following they have. Not seeing the next big star of the sport in videos for however long was strange. At the time i didn’t put the pieces together, but when he finally came out about the injury, it made sense. They weren’t secretive with injuries when he was an amatuer, why would they be now?

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agn5008 wrote:
Good. I’m happy to see 3 guys go who actually want to represent our country. I personally hope Deegan is never considered for another MXoN again. I...

Good. I’m happy to see 3 guys go who actually want to represent our country. I personally hope Deegan is never considered for another MXoN again. 

I have all the confidence in the world in Sexton, Plessinger and Hymas. No matter what happens at the race I’m already proud of them. 

dsc131 wrote:
From ML: "After further x-rays on Monday, and consulting with doctors, the team and Deegan were advised to have surgery as soon as possible. The...

From ML: "After further x-rays on Monday, and consulting with doctors, the team and Deegan were advised to have surgery as soon as possible. The surgery is needed to avoid further damage over time."

No one cares,business as usual!

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8/29/2024 12:33am
mtbkris2 wrote:
Haha dudes doing turn downs off his signature jump at iron man and hitting a 5 pack, but I’m supposed to believe his wrist is in...

Haha dudes doing turn downs off his signature jump at iron man and hitting a 5 pack, but I’m supposed to believe his wrist is in urgent need of repair 

"Just gonna send it"

... until he's asked to represent Team USA.

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8/29/2024 12:44am

Im sick of these excuses about budgets.  When a corp or the government says they dont have the budget for something, its code for they just don’t want to do it.  If Star can have 11 riders, purchase and operate a training facility, they can race at the mxdn.  

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Im sick of these excuses about budgets.  When a corp or the government says they dont have the budget for something, its code for they just...

Im sick of these excuses about budgets.  When a corp or the government says they dont have the budget for something, its code for they just don’t want to do it.  If Star can have 11 riders, purchase and operate a training facility, they can race at the mxdn.  

Last year Bobby Regan said it wasn't about the money.

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Not a good look from Deegan. I don't care what excuse he uses, but it doesn't make sense. Waving the flag the entire year and opting out two years in a row, nah.. Don't get me wrong. I absolutely love to see him ride and I love that we have a personality in our sport, but if he opts out this year, then he shouldn't be racing next year as well. 

Don't talk about the length of the calendar, Sexton and Plessinger rode the entire SX series and still cannot wait to go. Those two guys are true patriots that want to represent our country. I respect Plessinger alot for going there last year, to a race at an unique track in France where all cards were against him, but he still went with pride. Same goes now for Sexton, he won the Outdoor season with dominance and will go to a track at Matterley Basin that should suit the MXGP riders. Hymas reinjured his knee and had a tough last part of the outdoor season, but he will represent USA and that is amazing. 

Don't talk about money, team USA had all the time in the world to get a proper budget - they should take a look at team Canada if that's the issue. Every other nation gets there every year without any mention of costs and now USA has no budget? While they have huge crowd attendances all year?

I don't believe any word about an injury hindering him to race the MXoN. If that was the case, he wouldn't have rode Ironman (where he jumped some of the riskiest leaps and sections of the calendar all day). There is a long history of riders representing their country injured, remember that most of our greats in our sport are remembered for dominating/winning this event. RC winning in Zolder & Ernee, Pastrana winning on his 125 jumping over Roncada, RV winning at Budds Creek, RV & Dungey winning in St jean moto 3.. the list goes on and on

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Not a good look from Deegan. I don't care what excuse he uses, but it doesn't make sense. Waving the flag the entire year and opting...

Not a good look from Deegan. I don't care what excuse he uses, but it doesn't make sense. Waving the flag the entire year and opting out two years in a row, nah.. Don't get me wrong. I absolutely love to see him ride and I love that we have a personality in our sport, but if he opts out this year, then he shouldn't be racing next year as well. 

Don't talk about the length of the calendar, Sexton and Plessinger rode the entire SX series and still cannot wait to go. Those two guys are true patriots that want to represent our country. I respect Plessinger alot for going there last year, to a race at an unique track in France where all cards were against him, but he still went with pride. Same goes now for Sexton, he won the Outdoor season with dominance and will go to a track at Matterley Basin that should suit the MXGP riders. Hymas reinjured his knee and had a tough last part of the outdoor season, but he will represent USA and that is amazing. 

Don't talk about money, team USA had all the time in the world to get a proper budget - they should take a look at team Canada if that's the issue. Every other nation gets there every year without any mention of costs and now USA has no budget? While they have huge crowd attendances all year?

I don't believe any word about an injury hindering him to race the MXoN. If that was the case, he wouldn't have rode Ironman (where he jumped some of the riskiest leaps and sections of the calendar all day). There is a long history of riders representing their country injured, remember that most of our greats in our sport are remembered for dominating/winning this event. RC winning in Zolder & Ernee, Pastrana winning on his 125 jumping over Roncada, RV winning at Budds Creek, RV & Dungey winning in St jean moto 3.. the list goes on and on

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