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They have tried a few different formats to try and accommodate that many riders. What seems to work the best is run practice until noon on saturday then they start racing I believe its 6 or 8 classes both motos saturday afternoon, then all other classes run both motos on sunday. If you are in the sunday classes you could just show up for that. Im old school, I say do away with so much practice time and start the racing saturday morning. In the old days we were lucky to get a couple laps to see the track and then it was gate drops.
Make the classic track classic again! In my opinion, they can keep ripping the bomber deep, and prep the classic a little shallower and build the jumps back up. The uphill whoops are nowhere near what they used to be, and the jumps leading up to and out of the bowl turn are way too small for how fast that section is.
The one race I did on the classic last year was ridiculously rutted, felt pretty overkill for a local race to have 12 ruts all the way across the track on the straight before the downhill triple.
Most races are still both motos on Sunday, just memorial day weekend and labor day weekend to my knowledge are the longer motos/1 moto per day format. Still not gonna wait around all day for 2 days to race though.
Yeah its definitely different and more mellow. I would not want to be in their shoes as far as trying to make everyone happy. Everyone has a opinion and you cant please them all unfortunately.
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Yea, I understand they get a lot of day riders on the classic track, so I get not making the whoops super big, but those jumps are dangerous in my opinion being that small but steep, you come flying out of the woods and have to coast/hit the brakes over the jump to not get sent to the moon, they could extend the landings further out and still be mellow.
All that being said, it's still a kickass facility. Always been my favorite place.
No why would trying be a professional matter? I like going to big events because I get to race better competition and ride with people I don’t ride with often. I do this for fun and local races are fun, but the big am nationals have better tracks, better competition, and typically offer longer motos.
I would definitely be more willing to race locally if more competition showed up, but it’s still fun to show up and race people from all over the country compared to just your area.
My oldest will be 35 Sunday, the youngest 33 November so dead on for us. My memory old but wasn't it Goat Creations that changed to Vurb or the kid (is it West) that ran goat left for Vurb? Then burn left the scene and came back right? Same people there now?
It is basically just a 12 minute infomercial for Vurb Moto. Go to 9:44 of the video.
I used to love Vurb. Grew up on it. Really miss watching their awesome videos on all the amateur races. It's really how I used to keep up with all the amateurs coming up. Nostalgia hits me hard sometimes 🥲
Genuinely curious is all. I race primarily off-road, both locally, regionally and nationally. Of course I like the national level races, but I find just as much enjoyment in the local stuff too. I ask about professional racing because in my mind there should be competition in any class unless you're maxxing out in an A class, but maybe turnouts just aren't good enough to have decent gate drops in each class (Vet age groups etc.) The track comments make sense, bigger races = bigger budgets = better programs.
I haven’t seen much talk on this but I’m glad to see someone share the same thoughts. So many of those videos are like my generations Terrafirma’s and their relaunch absolutely bombed. I can’t stand when the Vurb bros are in studio on Pulp, they radiate the same energy nowadays as Rutledge Wood.
Race days have always been long- and you could make the argument there are more opportunities (classes) to race now. Back when I was 17..18..19 could only race 125A or B or C..now days you can also race 16-24..etc.
Nice thing about being a vet is that I can sign up for 2 or 3 classes, race the first motos, one or two of the second motos then leave.
What sometimes deters me from racing—I arrive at Aztalan at 6am (when the gates first open) and there is no where to park because the pits are stuffed with toy haulers and RVs..
This seems to be the majority of reasons why decline for my area specifically to the vet classes.
The other week when LTM had their big race my brother & several friends were there & I was at GH for swap moto.
The first moto of the day started at the same time, LTM is 2 hours ahead though so like uhhhh.
Also I finished all my moto’s & was almost home & LTM was still racing ( swap was done). Running 8 classes the day before & racing til 6-7-8 is insane. Huhhhhhh. ALSO swap had a 30 minute delay for a broken water line before practice even started.
Also they run 4 laps, sometimes 3 if they run outta time. At a 1:40 lap time..GH had 2:20 lap times ran us 6 laps which was short compared to the 20’s we normally run in the expert level classes. Think they shortened it because of the heat not because of time.
People hate on Cali all they want but they know how to run a race program for sureeee. I’ve never seen ran a moto with the sun going down on a Sunday night in Cali but that was the normal growing up in the Midwest.
That’s good to know. I try and do all the prepped practices they have when I’m not out of town doing the drag racing thing. Some races I have done they had something like 1000 entries. I know it will never be perfect. One thing that really doesn’t make sense is why the 50s run the bomber. That cannot be fun. Ruts up to the gas tank. Run the 50s on the classic track.
The entire goal in life was to make it on a Vurb video.
Say it all the time. Kids racing fucked the sport.
Let them race but not at the expense of Adults. Theyll have their time to ‘Adult’.
Moto-parents are mental! 99.9% of your little champions in the making are never going to make a dime racing.
All the money is in kid’s sports.
Easy to offload new and better every year to mental parents with cash and unfulfilled dreams.
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I hate to be a hater but yall hit the nail on the head. Hate how they try so hard to be funny and its not funny at all. wtf is up with that troydog crap.
Guess I better pile on as well. I loved the old vurb. This new Vurb not so much.
Yeah Wes is the guys name that did goat kreations back in day. A buddy of mine that I used to race mx with was good friends with Wes, I saw him several times at area LL qualifiers with his camera when he was just starting out. He's done well for himself, I think at one time (maybe still) he worked for RacerX. He's filmed a lot of the supercross documentaries they showed on TV during intermission. He's rubbed elbows with some of the sports GOAT's for sure.
I'm baffled by how much disdain there seems to be for the Vurb guys. Wes is the man, their media content has always been terrific, and the Vurb classics are super fun. My whole family has Vurb merch, and we'll be supporters forever.
My buddy actually got to run their Helmet cam around 2012 at a LL qualifier. He saw them in the pits and just told them he was a huge fan and a few hours later when he was on the gate one of the Vurb guys ran up and slammed a GoPro on his helmet like a minute before the gate drop.
That's badass. Wes interviewed my dumbass one time but I don't think it ever made a video. My claim to fame is the Malcolm Stewart Mini Os 2008. My Mom was proud.
I don’t think amateur racing is as broken as many say it is. However I do think it could be improved. Run it like a Loretta qualifier, mostly kids and such Saturday and the rest Sunday, Longer motos etc.
Wow, talk about ass backwards
To me its not so much about cost vs. Ride time ratio. BUT the days are just too long. Need to cut classes. That or need to do, say all 50cc and vet classes on Saturday then all other classes Sunday. Man I would love to race Saturday and have all Sunday to clean stuff and get read for work on Monday.
I did a hare scramble recently. Showed up at 12, raced at 1 (for 2 hours), loaded up and was home at 5.
Local motocross is clapped.
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Yeah didn’t Ltm hv 1,300 + again this yr. Vid is more of a infomercial for Walkers training camp. I think the track turnout is big because of the location. 5 states can travel there easily. And more if you want to race against more competition.
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