Deegan hit the lapper?

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7/6/2024 4:44pm

I would like to know what the flagger on top of the jump was doing, he should have been waving the yellow outof his flag!!!

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7/6/2024 4:49pm

Just shit timing for Deegan. Not the flaggers fault at all. No excuse for the broadcast to not tell us, though. 

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7/6/2024 4:49pm

Flagger had a very pragmatic view of the crash👌

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I am starting to see a pattern here.  

I am starting to see a pattern here.

 

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7/6/2024 5:36pm

The broadcast was more concerned about who Will spoke to yesterday 

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7/6/2024 6:11pm

Yep, the broadcast crew just flat out missed it and sadly so did the flagger.  I was watching Vialle catching Masterpool and saw that kid cartwheel right in front of them.  I knew that Deegan was just a second or two behind those two and wondered if a flagger would catch it before Deegan came around.

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7/6/2024 6:23pm
dingaling wrote:

The broadcast was more concerned about who Will spoke to yesterday 

Easy now. I gotta know what so and so said last week, yesterday and what dazzy said a month ago.   

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MX Guy wrote:
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But the flagger, even after he saw what was happening. 

But the flagger, even after he saw what was happening. 

Did you want that flagger to teleport to the top of the jump so he could wave it before the downed rider? Or did you just want him to stay where he was and pull the flag out and wave it after the downed rider? 
 

Its funny how even while sitting on a couch watching replays you can’t get it right but you expect them to be perfect in real time. 

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7/6/2024 8:30pm

Another RC like get off for Deegan only to remount and keep going.

Herlings would be out for a year from that one.

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Dude's a fucking machine! 

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MX Guy wrote:
RonSkj wrote:
But the flagger, even after he saw what was happening. 

But the flagger, even after he saw what was happening. 

agn5008 wrote:
Did you want that flagger to teleport to the top of the jump so he could wave it before the downed rider? Or did you just...

Did you want that flagger to teleport to the top of the jump so he could wave it before the downed rider? Or did you just want him to stay where he was and pull the flag out and wave it after the downed rider? 
 

Its funny how even while sitting on a couch watching replays you can’t get it right but you expect them to be perfect in real time. 

Exactly.  The rider crashed and Deegan was basically already in the air.  Flagger can only wave the flag after a crash happens.  

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sandman768 wrote:

Flagger had a very pragmatic view of the crash👌

“Speed gap” must’ve fooled him…

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7/6/2024 9:08pm

How is the broadcast crew clueless that Haiden lost 10 seconds+?  Did he hit the bike that endo'd??

Been watching for forever and there are some things that seem apparent with Weege and the broadcast team.

One is that they don't seem to have a spotter who gets in his ear to make him aware of situations the audience should know about.

Another is he might check timing and scoring once per moto... whether he needs to or not.Grinning

I don't know how many times I've watched a race he was calling and a rider is either dropping like a rock (5th to 35th) on the board or they're coming up fast (and this has been going on for laps) and he is suddenly caught off guard and sounds so surprised when he finally mentions it. Having a spotter would help eliminate this and they might also be able to feed him info on matter (rider went down, mechanical failure, lap times 3 seconds faster than anyone else, etc.).

But that might mean he wouldn't have time to laugh at every single remark the cohost makes.Grinning

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Been watching for forever and there are some things that seem apparent with Weege and the broadcast team. One is that they don't seem to have...

Been watching for forever and there are some things that seem apparent with Weege and the broadcast team.

One is that they don't seem to have a spotter who gets in his ear to make him aware of situations the audience should know about.

Another is he might check timing and scoring once per moto... whether he needs to or not.Grinning

I don't know how many times I've watched a race he was calling and a rider is either dropping like a rock (5th to 35th) on the board or they're coming up fast (and this has been going on for laps) and he is suddenly caught off guard and sounds so surprised when he finally mentions it. Having a spotter would help eliminate this and they might also be able to feed him info on matter (rider went down, mechanical failure, lap times 3 seconds faster than anyone else, etc.).

But that might mean he wouldn't have time to laugh at every single remark the cohost makes.Grinning

Agree on a lot here. Except you don’t even need a spotter. When we can tell from the couch that someone is blitzing through the field. They need to take a breath sometimes it seems and kinda reset.  Not every second of air time needs someone speaking during it. 
 

it would be really nice in the broadcast showed us lap times more often then they do. They used to toggle between intervals/fast lap/last lap and they don’t really do it much anymore. 

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7/6/2024 9:59pm

And how much do you think they would and should pay that group of flaggers that travel the series? How long until the same problems arise with flagging and then how long until people bitch that they need to unionize to fix the problem? And after unionization how long until the same problem arises and they're making 40+ an hour and are still incompetent? Have you ever been on a governmental construction site and seen their high paid flaggers it's a fucking joke. Be careful what you wish for lol.

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7/7/2024 3:15am Edited Date/Time 7/7/2024 3:15am

Growing up with a foam pit must help Deegan. Situation awareness and balance like a cat. 

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7/7/2024 3:52am

I’m more bothered that the broadcast and subsequent vital thread gave no concern towards the lapper who had a nasty crash in the first place

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Growing up with a foam pit must help Deegan. Situation awareness and balance like a cat. 

People where saying the same thing about Jettson until he broke his thumb off in a supposedly mundane crash.

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I was waiting for Weege or RC to mention it...and waiting...and waiting...and waiting...and waiting for a replay...but, it was crickets. We'll find out what happened from...

I was waiting for Weege or RC to mention it...and waiting...and waiting...and waiting...and waiting for a replay...but, it was crickets.

We'll find out what happened from someone who was at the race, just like what often happens in Supercross.

Weege will pick it up in a couple of hours just like everything else he misses during each race..

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Been watching for forever and there are some things that seem apparent with Weege and the broadcast team. One is that they don't seem to have...

Been watching for forever and there are some things that seem apparent with Weege and the broadcast team.

One is that they don't seem to have a spotter who gets in his ear to make him aware of situations the audience should know about.

Another is he might check timing and scoring once per moto... whether he needs to or not.Grinning

I don't know how many times I've watched a race he was calling and a rider is either dropping like a rock (5th to 35th) on the board or they're coming up fast (and this has been going on for laps) and he is suddenly caught off guard and sounds so surprised when he finally mentions it. Having a spotter would help eliminate this and they might also be able to feed him info on matter (rider went down, mechanical failure, lap times 3 seconds faster than anyone else, etc.).

But that might mean he wouldn't have time to laugh at every single remark the cohost makes.Grinning

You mean the typical stupid Weege phrase each moto: ”WHAIT A MINUTE” - insert what he has missed for 5 laps here: 

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johnnymf0 wrote:
And how much do you think they would and should pay that group of flaggers that travel the series? How long until the same problems arise...

And how much do you think they would and should pay that group of flaggers that travel the series? How long until the same problems arise with flagging and then how long until people bitch that they need to unionize to fix the problem? And after unionization how long until the same problem arises and they're making 40+ an hour and are still incompetent? Have you ever been on a governmental construction site and seen their high paid flaggers it's a fucking joke. Be careful what you wish for lol.

How much is the safety of the athletes worth to the series promoters? To the sponsors? To the teams that handle the logistics of getting multiple bikes shipped cross-country every week? 

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7/7/2024 7:15am

Did ya’ll happen to catch the beginning of Weege’s pre race show? He ran into the production crew at the beginning.

There are only TWO people responsible for the entire production of the races. I think that might explain a lot of things.

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Been watching for forever and there are some things that seem apparent with Weege and the broadcast team. One is that they don't seem to have...

Been watching for forever and there are some things that seem apparent with Weege and the broadcast team.

One is that they don't seem to have a spotter who gets in his ear to make him aware of situations the audience should know about.

Another is he might check timing and scoring once per moto... whether he needs to or not.Grinning

I don't know how many times I've watched a race he was calling and a rider is either dropping like a rock (5th to 35th) on the board or they're coming up fast (and this has been going on for laps) and he is suddenly caught off guard and sounds so surprised when he finally mentions it. Having a spotter would help eliminate this and they might also be able to feed him info on matter (rider went down, mechanical failure, lap times 3 seconds faster than anyone else, etc.).

But that might mean he wouldn't have time to laugh at every single remark the cohost makes.Grinning

Tumic wrote:

You mean the typical stupid Weege phrase each moto: ”WHAIT A MINUTE” - insert what he has missed for 5 laps here: 

Are we actually complaining about Weege?

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Are we actually complaining about Weege?

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MxAddic wrote:

People where saying the same thing about Jettson until he broke his thumb off in a supposedly mundane crash.

A tip over in a rut and flying over the handlebars is very different. Air awareness can help you in a situation like deegans. That type of awareness won’t help you in a tip over. Also I don’t think Jett grew up with a foam pit. He was a dancer which definitely helps his balance but it doesn’t mean he’s incapable of losing it. 
 

Deegan is riding on the edge though and he’s had some luck in his get offs this year, eventually that luck will run out. 

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Did ya’ll happen to catch the beginning of Weege’s pre race show? He ran into the production crew at the beginning. There are only TWO people...

Did ya’ll happen to catch the beginning of Weege’s pre race show? He ran into the production crew at the beginning.

There are only TWO people responsible for the entire production of the races. I think that might explain a lot of things.

Ummm no....they were the production team for science of SX segments....

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Been watching for forever and there are some things that seem apparent with Weege and the broadcast team. One is that they don't seem to have...

Been watching for forever and there are some things that seem apparent with Weege and the broadcast team.

One is that they don't seem to have a spotter who gets in his ear to make him aware of situations the audience should know about.

Another is he might check timing and scoring once per moto... whether he needs to or not.Grinning

I don't know how many times I've watched a race he was calling and a rider is either dropping like a rock (5th to 35th) on the board or they're coming up fast (and this has been going on for laps) and he is suddenly caught off guard and sounds so surprised when he finally mentions it. Having a spotter would help eliminate this and they might also be able to feed him info on matter (rider went down, mechanical failure, lap times 3 seconds faster than anyone else, etc.).

But that might mean he wouldn't have time to laugh at every single remark the cohost makes.Grinning

Tumic wrote:

You mean the typical stupid Weege phrase each moto: ”WHAIT A MINUTE” - insert what he has missed for 5 laps here: 

Are we actually complaining about Weege?

Don't know about "we", but I'm merely reporting observations.

I'm fully aware that on here it is heretical to disparage the deity known as The Weege... even if he assumed his throne by winning the tallest midget contest of MX/SX broadcasters.

But can you tell me what I said is inaccurate?

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7/7/2024 8:07am Edited Date/Time 7/7/2024 8:11am

It starts at 14.06. Sorry but will there be some changes when something really tragic happens as it does sometimes on the amateur scene? (weither better flaggers or radio com) (Edit: BTW, here he was about 4 seconds behind Vialle so it was avoidable).

 

 

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