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It's not just at US nationals it happens, I remember when Cairoli took out Searle at the 2008 British mxgp. People were going mental booing and swearing at him and some even throwing rocks at him.
It also happened in 2012 at Matterley Basin with people booing and giving Herlings the wanker sign. Pretty sure some of the Dutch fans did the same to Searle at the Dutch gp that year.
Most of the white americans have european roots
Do American get booed overseas just because they are Americans, or only when they do something stupid?
Topics like this always have so many overblown takes it's maddening. MXDN aside There has been a history of fans in America giving some French riders a hard time. But is this any different than any other sport or history of events regarding the French?. LOL.
I really question how badly Vialle was taunted yesterday. Not saying he wasn't, just I highly doubt it was worth all this rhetoric. I know at Southwick last year there was no booing to be heard as he won his first National. Quite the opposite happened there. And over the years Southwick can kind of get a rowdy crowd that some will act like asshats after one too many beers. But nothing ridiculous or really embarrassing. Ferrandis was booed during his 250 National championship run at Southwick and other Nationals after his Christian Craig take out in SX that year. Only to be loudly cheered and respected by the fans at almost every National during his 450 Title run.. The days of Bayle getting loudly booed are true. But he was a Jackass and kind of loved every moment of it. He wasn't classy and professional like this guy Vialle is.
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JMB and Stanton's relationship was so bad it was like two separate Honda teams. Luckily Bradshaw had a meltdown so the team tactics that they wanted JMB to honor didn't come into play. He had refused.
That being said, after getting mugged last season by his teammate Jett, Sexton did handle the situation as professionally as one could expect. Can't blame him for wanting to get away either.
Right not like the classy fans of other sports?
"Hope Deegan will step up for the sake of the sport and tell those clowns to cut it out.
Not a good look for the sport."
I would think that that would get Deegan some fans. It would bring be me over. I totally respect his haulass riding. Not so much his persona.
It's the same in any sport, though. Football (soccer) fans are probably the worst imo.
Exactly. I'd wager motocross fans are some of the more respectful. Fans riot and burn their city when the team wins the championship in stick and ball American sports. And like you said, soccer fans are fanatical
I like Plessinger, but what he's doing is the definition of pandering.
Skipped most of this thread but seems appropriate place to make my regular request that media ask team managers now whether or not they'll support mxon if their rider is selected. Don't wait to get the BS spin later on, get them on record now.
Unfortunately yet another example of the moto media skipping the real questions….
Not to turn this into a US vs ….. argument, but the cost excuse for MXdN needs to stop. Countries, where the sport is minuscule, from all around the world manage to send teams every year, yet the country with the richest series can’t send riders because of cost??? The country with the biggest moto industry can’t organise or fund the best team possible? It’s a cop out.
In Australia, a group started organising fund raisers for MXdN 24 the moment MXdN 23 was over. The AMA, or some other body can’t do the same? How do all the other countries afford to do it?
This is rich. A bunch of red state people that tell blue state transplants to go home in the non moto forum crying about someone telling Vialle to do the same.
I tried to comment before and maybe didn't make sense, but is it possible that these were Dangers fans that were upset that he almost got beat by a Frenchman? It's not cool either way
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Certainly possible, maybe even likely given the provocative things Deegan likes to say. I mean he has form, remember the rivalry he tried to invent with Hunter last year, and the flag waving and booing that resulted?
Very easy to extinguish it though, if he doesn’t support that sort of behaviour just come out and say so. Maybe the dickheads will listen?
I think most would have taken the interview.
I have also read the size of the USA and it's entourage is double that of other teams.
Maybe it's time to trim the fat.
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I feel Deegan uses the flag to manipulate and alienate, where as AP is trying to be something he's not.
They most likely don't have flags flying out the front of their homes 24/7, they dont parade it when they get 5th place, so why parade it on the podium.
An unpopular opinion, but its mine.
Right. Just because these guys are used to certain things doesn't mean they can't race without some of them. Go ask the NBA players playing in the Olympics this summer if they've got the same setup for the Olympics as they have in the NBA.
I think it was that weird mole in his face, and that he couldn’t talk. But he won everyone over by 91.
AP is just doing a damn good job of representing Dazzy's favorite Country.
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Of you think booing is something americans... then your'r wrong.... i don't know if you know ..mathias van der poel ... but that's a dutch cyclist.....belgian fans booming not only but but spit and throw with urine.......max verstappen is also booing almost everywhere
As i mentioned earlier in the thread, there is a lot of trashy people out there.
If American teams dont have budget for mxdn, who pays their huge expenses when mxdn is in América ???? This financial excuse only came up after usa went on a loosing streak.....sore looser excuses
I don't think moto fans are inherently more classy than in other sports, just that they should be more respectful of all athletes than in your average stick and ball sport given the risks the riders take for the love of the sport (be it MX, MotoGP, road racing...).
I think for the most part they are, there is this culture, this etiquette that we belong to a community, but sure, there are idiots everywhere.
MAGA! Deport Tom!
There are idiots everywhere. Fortunately the majority don't act this way.
Tom's a great kid and exactly what you want in this sport. Talented, respectful and personable... I'm all in American at MXoN, but rooting for Vialle here at MX.
The Deegan’s have made a point of making almost every round like a MXoN where we have to fly the flag and say fuck yea an American won. I’m patriotic but I’m not into it.
There has always been people booing foreigners. I don’t know why these goons would boo Tom. He’s a nice dude and doesn’t ride dirty.
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