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Yep in the shape of a pyramid
Very curious to hear if some of the teams jump into outdoors
WSX must be done for. The scheduling for these races should be confirmed a year in advance so the teams and investors can appropriate the funds to make it work. The teams that think they're racing it, have NO idea if the series is even happening. How can they expect teams to come up with their budgets and scheduling when there's no locations or timeline confirmed. Just an all around sh#t show. And that is why we call WSX a joke. Zero info. Terrible to no planning at all. No promotions. No uploads with even a whisper of information. Lower fan attendance than Arenacross. Cancelled multiple venues 2 years in a row because no one is dumb enough to invest in a sinking ship.
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Say what you want about Feld at least they can put together a very successful supercross series.
It’s hard to believe on a site for people that supposedly like dirtbikes why so many people are happy to see a dirtbike racing series fail.
Did the new owners ever put on a race after the oil money left?
Less that, more people holding them accountable to the claims they were making.
Half of their press releases were “Just a reminder, we are actually the most prestigious supercross series despite what’s happening over there in the states.”
Everyone loves to see more jobs in the moto industry but that doesn’t mean we can’t call a spade a spade. Everything about this series has been wishful thinking by getting big names to endorse it. Chad Reed: “Everyone wants to race WSX”. Where’s Chad’s endorsement now? Oh right! He jumped ship as well.
Abu Dhabi and Melbourne.
I think a lot of the sentiment on here comes from the way they announced it initially. Condescending and cocky from the get-go with absolutely no history to stand on.
If it were a good faith effort at a new series I'm sure they would have had plenty of support, but it wasn't. They openly went after a series that most of us love and did it with a business model that was very obviously going to fail. The overall health of the sport is better without the instability that they brought to it.
I dont see any reason why Abu Dhabi or Great Britain can't still have one off SX races during the off season much the same way Paris and Geneva do. Maybe have a one off race in Australia that isn't part of their series.
I haven’t read through the whole thread yet so sorry if someone already said this. I honestly feel like WSX could have been great and was a real threat to feld and the ama SX series with a few years under its belt. Then feld/ama/mx sports panicked and threw together the SMX package because they KNEW they were going to lose riders and riders = money. Unfortunately for the riders/teams it’s easier to just stay in the US and keep running the same program now that the money has increased. Kind of like that wife that you have to threaten with divorce to get anything to change but it never really changes in the long run things only get better for a while. While I feel like WSX really had an interest in probiding a series that could allow significant profitability to the riders and teams. Feld just threw money at it to keep the riders and won’t keep trying to progress their income or pave a way for teams to make money. We’ll see if it takes another 50 years for them to make another change.
This has been disputed and proven wrong over and over...SMX was already far into the works in development of the SMX series way prior to the announcement of WSX. Feld dropped FIM in preparation for SMX more than a year before WSX was announced, MXSports did a one year streaming deal with MAV TV to get their streaming contract aligned with Feld and they had meetings with NBC to help create the idea. All this was done way prior to WSX...
SMX was a thing before WSX. Feld gave up the FIM title to create SMX.
I think Feld and MXSports working together to unite indoor and outdoor moto is a great thing that is long overdue. However that came about doesn't really matter to me.
Maybe "Racing" can organize that too
The whole thing just felt kinda weird. Part janky, part amateurish, all the hype felt fake.
Maybe a strange analogy but it's like in high school you have the cool kids all hanging out at a big party (Monster AMA SX) and the unpopular kids (WSX) decide to have their own party and offer 1 popular kid (Roczen) free beer so he shows up and just kinda hangs out but leaves early to go back to the popular party and the whole thing just fizzles out. I watched a couple races just to see what it was like but it just felt sort of gimmicky and lost my interest.
Edit* Just to add - all the talk/hype about being the most prestigious racing series and how everyone wants to be there made it feel even stranger. When they threw a bunch of money at Reed to promote this thing you could just tell it was all fake and being forced. I appreciate trying to have more racing and give other guys an opportunity but you could tell it was a shit show from the start and all the cancellations really gave it a black eye.
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Reed was CONFIDENT about WSX on the pulp show too, might have to go back and relisten to that one.
I can think of 2 reasons really easy - costs to teams for fly-away, one-off races; and riders that need a break after the Sx/Mx/SMX meatgrinder. Only reason to race one is if you are coming back from injury and need gate drops, or if the payout is worth the upfront expense and the risks.
Moto guys hit their heads a lot.
"Everybody wants to race WSX".....
They went for the throat of Outdoors.... fuck them for that.
Thank you.....I get to drop in one of my favorite p-chops again.
For all wsx ‘s faults , Adam Bailey made feld and mxsports step up the payment for their series and smx , he should never have to buy a beer at a sx anywhere in the world
Man, it was such a beautiful project.
What a cataclysmic disappointment this whole thing has been. It’s clear that there is a market for SX globally, with a bit of humility and common sense they could’ve made this work. It’s really difficult to see how they recover from so many PR disasters to make anything of this now
Realistically it also needed buy-in, not competition with the US series. The market outside the US for SX is clearly there in Europe and in Australia, it's just not there to survive on its own in the way WSX tried to. Instead of taking on or trying to rival the AMA they should have looked to partner up with it either as a 'feeder' series or to stump up the money for some international rounds.
They could've all said no, but they're all too greedy
Why can't the FIM just consolidate existing successful off-season races, perhaps a couple of the Australian rounds, add one or two and consider it a World SX championship?
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