Who will be Jett's competition in a few years?

4/15/2024 9:35am

Yes Prado for sure and if Liam Everts gets things sorted he has great bloodline, but his Dad never raced AMA.

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Yes I should have been more specific - he never race an AMA series

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Adam43 wrote:
I think Webb, Anderson, Roczen, and Tomac will all be around for quite awhile yet. They are all incredible champions - but because none of them...

I think Webb, Anderson, Roczen, and Tomac will all be around for quite awhile yet.

They are all incredible champions - but because none of them had the sheer career dominance of MC/RC/RV, they are "OK" with not winning in a sense. The checks still cash, they still get to be a star, and they can still win, albeit less often. 

The fans have been ready to retire each of them at different points. And yet they all find ways to claw back, and sign on for one more big deal. 

So, I predict the next person to take a title from Jett will actually be one of the Vets.

You think Eli will be around for quite awhile longer?  That's a bold take. I'd love to see it. And with better starts I really do think he's still got the speed to get more wins. Quite a bit more

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A legit week to week challenger? 
 

In MX - Prado, absolutely. Anyone denying this is bias. I believe these two (most likely Sexton too) are head and shoulders above everyone else in MX 

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Looking at the current roster, most of the top guys are getting older and are on their way out.  So who will be around in a...

Looking at the current roster, most of the top guys are getting older and are on their way out.  So who will be around in a few years to possibly give Jett some troubles?? Either 250/450 indoor or outdoor, who is on your list?

Of all the top 450 guys (Webb, Sexton, Roczen, Tomac, AP, Anderson) isn't Sexton likely to be the only one around?  How long with Webb and Roczen race? I was expecting more out of Malcolm, but he's not showing up. With that said, who will be the top contenders in a few years who could have what it takes to possibly beat Jett on occasion?  I can only think of the 7 below who might be there and able, with a few question marks below them.

Chase Sexton
Hunter Lawrence
Justin Cooper
Levi Kitchen
Haiden Deegan
Tom Vialle
Jorge Prado

Julien Beaumer??
Cameron Mcadoo??
Daxton Bennick??
Austin Forkner??

Any kids coming up the ranks I'm missing??  

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Give Prado 1-year to get dialed in on our MX tracks, then he smokes Jett outdoors. Shit he may be eating Jetts doughnuts in 2025 outdoors...

Give Prado 1-year to get dialed in on our MX tracks, then he smokes Jett outdoors. Shit he may be eating Jetts doughnuts in 2025 outdoors. But JL sure as the hell can forget about a perfect outdoors season, Prado is legit.  SX he's maybe 2-years to become a top 5. Mainly because SX he's starting in the 450 class. Either case I can't wait to watch it playout.   

I'm not sure if anyone will be able to smoke Jett outdoors, but it will be nice to have someone who can run with him and occasionally beat him.

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Looking at the current roster, most of the top guys are getting older and are on their way out.  So who will be around in a...

Looking at the current roster, most of the top guys are getting older and are on their way out.  So who will be around in a few years to possibly give Jett some troubles?? Either 250/450 indoor or outdoor, who is on your list?

Of all the top 450 guys (Webb, Sexton, Roczen, Tomac, AP, Anderson) isn't Sexton likely to be the only one around?  How long with Webb and Roczen race? I was expecting more out of Malcolm, but he's not showing up. With that said, who will be the top contenders in a few years who could have what it takes to possibly beat Jett on occasion?  I can only think of the 7 below who might be there and able, with a few question marks below them.

Chase Sexton
Hunter Lawrence
Justin Cooper
Levi Kitchen
Haiden Deegan
Tom Vialle
Jorge Prado

Julien Beaumer??
Cameron Mcadoo??
Daxton Bennick??
Austin Forkner??

Any kids coming up the ranks I'm missing??  

SFOBB wrote:
Give Prado 1-year to get dialed in on our MX tracks, then he smokes Jett outdoors. Shit he may be eating Jetts doughnuts in 2025 outdoors...

Give Prado 1-year to get dialed in on our MX tracks, then he smokes Jett outdoors. Shit he may be eating Jetts doughnuts in 2025 outdoors. But JL sure as the hell can forget about a perfect outdoors season, Prado is legit.  SX he's maybe 2-years to become a top 5. Mainly because SX he's starting in the 450 class. Either case I can't wait to watch it playout.   

I'm not sure if anyone will be able to smoke Jett outdoors, but it will be nice to have someone who can run with him and...

I'm not sure if anyone will be able to smoke Jett outdoors, but it will be nice to have someone who can run with him and occasionally beat him.

Yup. This summer might get boring but for now I'm pretty excited to see the package he brings to outdoors after a full season on a 450. I've skipped Southwick the past couple years as I've been there so many Nationals and its not a great spectator track. But I think I'm gonna have to see Jett in person there this year

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Kevin Sherman from Florida.

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Here’s the problem..Jett’s only going to get better. What’s he look like in 3 years? He may just be unbeatable. His ceiling is very high..all I heard all offseason was rookie sx 450s is a different ball game…well he’s got 5 wins and the red plate. I’d be worried what he looks like next year and so on..

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Here’s the problem..Jett’s only going to get better. What’s he look like in 3 years? He may just be unbeatable. His ceiling is very high..all I...

Here’s the problem..Jett’s only going to get better. What’s he look like in 3 years? He may just be unbeatable. His ceiling is very high..all I heard all offseason was rookie sx 450s is a different ball game…well he’s got 5 wins and the red plate. I’d be worried what he looks like next year and so on..

It is logical to say Jett will only get better but that may not actually happen. You never know.

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Adam43 wrote:
I think Webb, Anderson, Roczen, and Tomac will all be around for quite awhile yet. They are all incredible champions - but because none of them...

I think Webb, Anderson, Roczen, and Tomac will all be around for quite awhile yet.

They are all incredible champions - but because none of them had the sheer career dominance of MC/RC/RV, they are "OK" with not winning in a sense. The checks still cash, they still get to be a star, and they can still win, albeit less often. 

The fans have been ready to retire each of them at different points. And yet they all find ways to claw back, and sign on for one more big deal. 

So, I predict the next person to take a title from Jett will actually be one of the Vets.

You think Eli will be around for quite awhile longer?  That's a bold take. I'd love to see it. And with better starts I really do...

You think Eli will be around for quite awhile longer?  That's a bold take. I'd love to see it. And with better starts I really do think he's still got the speed to get more wins. Quite a bit more

I could see Eli quitting after the SX series ends. Hope not but he might. Eli should have beaten Jett last weekend. He could not do it and actually, after Eli tried to get him back once, Jett totally gapped him. Wonder why Eli seemed to stop trying.

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Chiz will prob still be pulling points.  

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Sexton, Prado, Kitchen IMO. 

yep actually think kitchen WILL be the next "Jett"....   he's a late bloomer 4 sure!!!

soggy wrote:

I’d pump the brakes on the next Jett. Kitchen is good but let’s not forget it’s a regional class he’s winning right now. 

Kitchen looks like the next Sexton to me, with potential to be better. I just have the feeling he's going to take a huge step up on the 450 like Chase did. 

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Adam43 wrote:
I think Webb, Anderson, Roczen, and Tomac will all be around for quite awhile yet. They are all incredible champions - but because none of them...

I think Webb, Anderson, Roczen, and Tomac will all be around for quite awhile yet.

They are all incredible champions - but because none of them had the sheer career dominance of MC/RC/RV, they are "OK" with not winning in a sense. The checks still cash, they still get to be a star, and they can still win, albeit less often. 

The fans have been ready to retire each of them at different points. And yet they all find ways to claw back, and sign on for one more big deal. 

So, I predict the next person to take a title from Jett will actually be one of the Vets.

Can’t remember which interview it was recently but I heard Webb say he was looking to go another 3-4 years.  Outdoors has obviously not been his strong suit since moving up to the 450 but I would bet money he plans on being a thorn in Jett’s side in SX for a while yet.

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Deegan only because he has a mentality of a champion, do what ever it takes, die trying attitude, huge ego etc. Is he as talented as...

Deegan only because he has a mentality of a champion, do what ever it takes, die trying attitude, huge ego etc.

Is he as talented as Jett? probably not.

That attitude worked for Carmichael... So here's to hoping 

 

Not really huge ego... But the will to win mentality that no one has ever matched

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yep actually think kitchen WILL be the next "Jett"....   he's a late bloomer 4 sure!!!

soggy wrote:

I’d pump the brakes on the next Jett. Kitchen is good but let’s not forget it’s a regional class he’s winning right now. 

Alex814 wrote:
Kitchen looks like the next Sexton to me, with potential to be better. I just have the feeling he's going to take a huge step up...

Kitchen looks like the next Sexton to me, with potential to be better. I just have the feeling he's going to take a huge step up on the 450 like Chase did. 

Kitchen has had a similar 250 career to Sexton, he just got started a few years later. Chase on 250s was good for SX wins against guys like McElrath, and wasn't even a podium guy in outdoors. Some guys are just built better for the 450 - I think Kitchen might be one of those guys. He's mentioned how he doesn't really like to twist the throttle wide open and ride hard, & Chase isn't that kind of rider either. Throttle control is an advantage on a 450 but not as much on a 250, which is also why Jett's success and speed was immediately amplified after moving up to the big bikes.

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Adam43 wrote:
I think Webb, Anderson, Roczen, and Tomac will all be around for quite awhile yet. They are all incredible champions - but because none of them...

I think Webb, Anderson, Roczen, and Tomac will all be around for quite awhile yet.

They are all incredible champions - but because none of them had the sheer career dominance of MC/RC/RV, they are "OK" with not winning in a sense. The checks still cash, they still get to be a star, and they can still win, albeit less often. 

The fans have been ready to retire each of them at different points. And yet they all find ways to claw back, and sign on for one more big deal. 

So, I predict the next person to take a title from Jett will actually be one of the Vets.

You think Eli will be around for quite awhile longer?  That's a bold take. I'd love to see it. And with better starts I really do...

You think Eli will be around for quite awhile longer?  That's a bold take. I'd love to see it. And with better starts I really do think he's still got the speed to get more wins. Quite a bit more

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I could see Eli quitting after the SX series ends. Hope not but he might. Eli should have beaten Jett last weekend. He could not do...

I could see Eli quitting after the SX series ends. Hope not but he might. Eli should have beaten Jett last weekend. He could not do it and actually, after Eli tried to get him back once, Jett totally gapped him. Wonder why Eli seemed to stop trying.

Yeah I don't think Eli "will be around for quite awhile yet." I don't think he's completely mentally invested anymore. I still think he has it in him to go as fast as anyone on the track. He won a triple crown main early in the season. Was really good at Daytona. And he finally got that race win. Other races he's just a 5th-6th place guy. Part of that is this season being so start dependent.  Part of it, I think, is just a mental component he's starting to lose with age. He's not willing to risk it everything anymore. 

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Aid all people everyone named, only two will give Jett any trouble in the future, Chase, and Kitchens. 
 

 I hate to say it, but Jett is going to win the majority of the races over the next 10 years, if he doesn’t quit sooner. 
 

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You think Eli will be around for quite awhile longer?  That's a bold take. I'd love to see it. And with better starts I really do...

You think Eli will be around for quite awhile longer?  That's a bold take. I'd love to see it. And with better starts I really do think he's still got the speed to get more wins. Quite a bit more

kpiper wrote:
I could see Eli quitting after the SX series ends. Hope not but he might. Eli should have beaten Jett last weekend. He could not do...

I could see Eli quitting after the SX series ends. Hope not but he might. Eli should have beaten Jett last weekend. He could not do it and actually, after Eli tried to get him back once, Jett totally gapped him. Wonder why Eli seemed to stop trying.

Yeah I don't think Eli "will be around for quite awhile yet." I don't think he's completely mentally invested anymore. I still think he has it...

Yeah I don't think Eli "will be around for quite awhile yet." I don't think he's completely mentally invested anymore. I still think he has it in him to go as fast as anyone on the track. He won a triple crown main early in the season. Was really good at Daytona. And he finally got that race win. Other races he's just a 5th-6th place guy. Part of that is this season being so start dependent.  Part of it, I think, is just a mental component he's starting to lose with age. He's not willing to risk it everything anymore. 

You are right. Eli tried but then decided to stop trying to stay with Jett and got gapped. Even though they were 5th and 6th that was a perfect setup for Tomac to beat Jett after taking the win last week. But he didn't do it. Heart just not totally in it anymore?

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Looking at the current roster, most of the top guys are getting older and are on their way out.  So who will be around in a...

Looking at the current roster, most of the top guys are getting older and are on their way out.  So who will be around in a few years to possibly give Jett some troubles?? Either 250/450 indoor or outdoor, who is on your list?

Of all the top 450 guys (Webb, Sexton, Roczen, Tomac, AP, Anderson) isn't Sexton likely to be the only one around?  How long with Webb and Roczen race? I was expecting more out of Malcolm, but he's not showing up. With that said, who will be the top contenders in a few years who could have what it takes to possibly beat Jett on occasion?  I can only think of the 7 below who might be there and able, with a few question marks below them.

Chase Sexton
Hunter Lawrence
Justin Cooper
Levi Kitchen
Haiden Deegan
Tom Vialle
Jorge Prado

Julien Beaumer??
Cameron Mcadoo??
Daxton Bennick??
Austin Forkner??

Any kids coming up the ranks I'm missing??  

Chase Sexton:  yes if he can get comfy on a bike.
Hunter Lawrence: No, he won’t do much on a 450, should’ve kept him on the 250 for another year so he could win another championship or two and get some extra cash. 

Justin Cooper: no, he’s always lacked intensity.  Like we saw last year with Sexton and Lawrence the motos were a 45min dog fight putting down sprint laps the entire time.
Levi Kitchen: Maybe?  Has anyone seen him put in real time on a 450 yet?  He seems to have worked through the consistency issues, but we’ll see in outdoors with a deeper field.

Tome Vialle:  i think he could be a threat for podiums, haven’t seen anything so far that really was like wow.  IMO he should have performed 10x better in outdoors. He’s a 2x world champ and his excuse every week was that he’s not used to the schedule and doesn’t know the tracks, meanwhile he’s getting beat by other ACTUAL rookies who don’t know the tracks or schedule either.  
Haiden Deegan:  maybe, still inconsistent other than two rounds this SX season he’s been kinda mid.  Needs to mellow out on the bike also, over rides and gets tired.

Jorge Prado:  I think he could be, but wouldn’t be surprised if he isn’t.  The tracks are so different over there it’s hard to gauge speed compared to riders here.

Julien Beaumer:  could be good, needs more time to develop to really say, along with the other newbies like Deegan and Bennick.
Cameron Mcadoo: No
Daxton Bennick??:  I think he’ll be really good
Austin Forkner: No

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jambalaya wrote:
No offense but James lost to rc by like 2 points his rookie year. If Jett loses to cooper Webb despite being like 2 seconds a...

No offense but James lost to rc by like 2 points his rookie year. If Jett loses to cooper Webb despite being like 2 seconds a lap faster, I will have overestimated him

James broke his arm rookie yr ,it was james 2nd yr he lost by 2 points,  but really he won because ricky cried about being caught with illegal gas , and said I guess I wont race intill hangtown, also most definitely was on p e d , like villo , and others,  this sport has it favorites and they get away with alot of b.s., 

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Perhaps Sexton and Hunter can challenge Jett in sx, and Prado outdoors?

But who knows what the racing will look like if Jett switches to another team. You have to wonder after seeing the drop-off of Sextons speed when switching to ktm.

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Deegan only because he has a mentality of a champion, do what ever it takes, die trying attitude, huge ego etc. Is he as talented as...

Deegan only because he has a mentality of a champion, do what ever it takes, die trying attitude, huge ego etc.

Is he as talented as Jett? probably not.

Mxracer06y wrote:

That attitude worked for Carmichael... So here's to hoping 

 

Not really huge ego... But the will to win mentality that no one has ever matched

Yes that right, it's very much like Carmichael I avoid saying the comparison because of the hate of the kid on here, Deegan has an ego to the point where his ego won't allow him to use, pair that with the work ethic and desire he will do whatever it takes to take wins off Jett, that said Jett does have more talent from what I've seen so far.||

I'm amazed that there's not more shouting out him in this thread either they hate him or don't see what he has.

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Prado.

Deegan. 

Nobody else in 250 looks close to being good enough. 

But neither did Sexton.

And this is why they run the races. 

 

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jambalaya wrote:
No offense but James lost to rc by like 2 points his rookie year. If Jett loses to cooper Webb despite being like 2 seconds a...

No offense but James lost to rc by like 2 points his rookie year. If Jett loses to cooper Webb despite being like 2 seconds a lap faster, I will have overestimated him

James broke his arm rookie yr ,it was james 2nd yr he lost by 2 points,  but really he won because ricky cried about being caught...

James broke his arm rookie yr ,it was james 2nd yr he lost by 2 points,  but really he won because ricky cried about being caught with illegal gas , and said I guess I wont race intill hangtown, also most definitely was on p e d , like villo , and others,  this sport has it favorites and they get away with alot of b.s., 

You’re correct about James losing by 2pts in his second year, but he wouldn’t have won if RC didn’t get fuelgate overturned.
Reed also finished only 2pts behind in the 2006 championship, and he finished second, with Stew third, in the race that RC got done for illegal fuel.
If RC was disqualified, Reed finishes the championship ahead of Stew in the points. 

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jambalaya wrote:
No offense but James lost to rc by like 2 points his rookie year. If Jett loses to cooper Webb despite being like 2 seconds a...

No offense but James lost to rc by like 2 points his rookie year. If Jett loses to cooper Webb despite being like 2 seconds a lap faster, I will have overestimated him

James broke his arm rookie yr ,it was james 2nd yr he lost by 2 points,  but really he won because ricky cried about being caught...

James broke his arm rookie yr ,it was james 2nd yr he lost by 2 points,  but really he won because ricky cried about being caught with illegal gas , and said I guess I wont race intill hangtown, also most definitely was on p e d , like villo , and others,  this sport has it favorites and they get away with alot of b.s., 

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You’re correct about James losing by 2pts in his second year, but he wouldn’t have won if RC didn’t get fuelgate overturned. Reed also finished only...

You’re correct about James losing by 2pts in his second year, but he wouldn’t have won if RC didn’t get fuelgate overturned.
Reed also finished only 2pts behind in the 2006 championship, and he finished second, with Stew third, in the race that RC got done for illegal fuel.
If RC was disqualified, Reed finishes the championship ahead of Stew in the points. 

I don’t think a DQ was ever on the table they just took 25 pts away like they did James and Chad the years prior, right?

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Alex814 wrote:
Kitchen looks like the next Sexton to me, with potential to be better. I just have the feeling he's going to take a huge step up...

Kitchen looks like the next Sexton to me, with potential to be better. I just have the feeling he's going to take a huge step up on the 450 like Chase did. 

At Levis age, Chase had two 250 SX and one  450 SX championships. Levi has none.

He is not the next Sexton in any way. 

 

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Kitchen looks like the next Sexton to me, with potential to be better. I just have the feeling he's going to take a huge step up...

Kitchen looks like the next Sexton to me, with potential to be better. I just have the feeling he's going to take a huge step up on the 450 like Chase did. 

kage173 wrote:

At Levis age, Chase had two 250 SX and one  450 SX championships. Levi has none.

He is not the next Sexton in any way. 

 

I'm not saying he's the next Sexton but Levi did get a later start to his career. Before the start of 2019 Chase had about the exact same number of 250 sx starts as Levi had to start this season. It's close. It might be 10 starts for Chase and 12 for Levi. 

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Kitchen looks like the next Sexton to me, with potential to be better. I just have the feeling he's going to take a huge step up...

Kitchen looks like the next Sexton to me, with potential to be better. I just have the feeling he's going to take a huge step up on the 450 like Chase did. 

kage173 wrote:

At Levis age, Chase had two 250 SX and one  450 SX championships. Levi has none.

He is not the next Sexton in any way. 

 

This is Levi’s 2nd full SX season

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Kitchen looks like the next Sexton to me, with potential to be better. I just have the feeling he's going to take a huge step up...

Kitchen looks like the next Sexton to me, with potential to be better. I just have the feeling he's going to take a huge step up on the 450 like Chase did. 

kage173 wrote:

At Levis age, Chase had two 250 SX and one  450 SX championships. Levi has none.

He is not the next Sexton in any way. 

 

This is Levi’s 2nd full SX season

Its his 3rd season. In my opinion if you get hurt you get hurt. Nobody thinks Forkner is in his 3rd full season.

And either way, hes still the age that he is. The fact that he is beating two guys that every factory rider in the 450 class beat years ago, doesnt mean he is going to do well in 450s.

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Once these guys are in their late 20s they know what works they know what doesn't, I think just burnout really is a big reason these guys end up retiring besides injuries. Someone like Webb, who is only 28 by the way could do this for at least another 4-5 years but if he gets one more championship, maybe the motivation to do it dwindles as you are pretty well set on money/accomplishments.

If you think about it there isn't as many guys with like big nagging stuff that almost forces them to retire, like someone like Dean that has had 7 ACL surgeries. Hell even Roczen, he had to change his riding style a bit because of injuries but they surprisingly dont seem to really be a problem. 

They are all dealing with nagging shit all year but as far as like stuff that hinders your performance in the long run I can only think of Deans knees, Craigs elbow and AC nerve issues. 

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kage173 wrote:

At Levis age, Chase had two 250 SX and one  450 SX championships. Levi has none.

He is not the next Sexton in any way. 

 

This is Levi’s 2nd full SX season

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Its his 3rd season. In my opinion if you get hurt you get hurt. Nobody thinks Forkner is in his 3rd full season. And either way...

Its his 3rd season. In my opinion if you get hurt you get hurt. Nobody thinks Forkner is in his 3rd full season.

And either way, hes still the age that he is. The fact that he is beating two guys that every factory rider in the 450 class beat years ago, doesnt mean he is going to do well in 450s.

So in your mind he has the experience of 3 SX seasons even though he’s halfway through his 2nd? Races entered mean nothing? Weird math you got going there

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