Component coverups! What else has been “disguised”?!

OwenJakes wrote:

What a goof. They wont touch "toxic shit"? What's toxic about it? It's vitamins sucralose and caffeine and salt in various blends and synthetic flavors. Chase...

What a goof. They wont touch "toxic shit"? What's toxic about it? It's vitamins sucralose and caffeine and salt in various blends and synthetic flavors.

Chase sexton literally was slamming red bulls at the test track and commented how he was pumped to have red bull as a sponsor.

I'm on par with professional athletes and I dabble in caffeinated beverages quite frequently. Caffeine is one of the half dozen or so known effective supplements for sports performance. Wait til you find out that they eat dessert too

hanzhongluboy wrote:

just wondering, what sport or hobby you play on a near-pro level, not even being a smart aleck- just genuinely curious!

ratonmacias wrote:

according to pulp mx most teams run maxima oils regardless of who sponsors them

 

ForToo wrote:

Has it ever been confirmed what was in Davi's locker?  🤔

GrapeApe wrote:

"Different bore and stroke in a 450" Tedder let that cat out of the bag: "You know that’s one good thing about being with KTM...

"Different bore and stroke in a 450"

Tedder let that cat out of the bag:

"You know that’s one good thing about being with KTM: They ask what the rider wants and they just give it to you. And it’s not just the maps. If a rider needs more bottom end, they won’t just look at the electronics—they will actually go in and change the bore and stroke and give you exactly what you need."

https://racerxonline.com/2019/12/05/between-the-motos-matt-tedder

UpTiTe wrote:

I never read that one, that’s funny. 
 

 It’s funny how they all know, but nobody says anything. 

Sandusky26 wrote:

Do you actually think they were messing around with bore and stroke? Or did he not know what was talking about?

lumpy790 wrote:

It’s certainly not likely that non factory teams or riders were ever on 134cc or 144cc 125 bikes before is it.  Big name factory teams do...

It’s certainly not likely that non factory teams or riders were ever on 134cc or 144cc 125 bikes before is it. 

Big name factory teams do not get specialty built illegal parts at risk of being protested. B team absolutely did it but not on a riders bike that was capable of finishing on the podium.

Do I think there are lesser riders that are racing oversized illegal bikes on the track now? Absolutely it’s Pro racing and everyone is looking for a slight advantage if the can afford to do it.

This is the First time I have ever heard this claim of MC racing illegally vin numbered specially made frames. It was widely known he preferred and ran the 1993 CR250 frame with legal 1993 vin numbers for several of his winning years. He left when the aluminum frame came out and he could no longer race with the 93 frames.

lumpy790 wrote:

It’s certainly not likely that non factory teams or riders were ever on 134cc or 144cc 125 bikes before is it.  Big name factory teams do...

It’s certainly not likely that non factory teams or riders were ever on 134cc or 144cc 125 bikes before is it. 

Big name factory teams do not get specialty built illegal parts at risk of being protested. B team absolutely did it but not on a riders bike that was capable of finishing on the podium.

Do I think there are lesser riders that are racing oversized illegal bikes on the track now? Absolutely it’s Pro racing and everyone is looking for a slight advantage if the can afford to do it.

This is the First time I have ever heard this claim of MC racing illegally vin numbered specially made frames. It was widely known he preferred and ran the 1993 CR250 frame with legal 1993 vin numbers for several of his winning years. He left when the aluminum frame came out and he could no longer race with the 93 frames.

Rickyisms wrote:

That’s a pretty cool little tidbit, love all kinds of engine stuff like that.    Wasn’t a Honda MX/SX team using a KTM rod and/or piston...

That’s a pretty cool little tidbit, love all kinds of engine stuff like that. 
 

Wasn’t a Honda MX/SX team using a KTM rod and/or piston in their 250Fs?

Tumic wrote:

The last us spec HRC cr125 ran a long rod that i think was the same length as the ktm rod. I have never heard about...

The last us spec HRC cr125 ran a long rod that i think was the same length as the ktm rod.

I have never heard about a 250f running ktm parts inside.

OwenJakes wrote:

Pro level or pro level of effort - big difference. I am not pro speed or anything but might be able to sniff last place of...

Pro level or pro level of effort - big difference. I am not pro speed or anything but might be able to sniff last place of a pro national by the time the checkers fly. I can crank 4x 30 minute motos on track days at will, run marathons, row at sub 1:50 for 10km, etc. I've always enjoyed athletics and the struggle of fitness. VO2 max around 70. All of this at over 210 lbs. Also was in line to do some work in the bodybuilding world but it's just too cringe for me and I bailed. Nobody cares and it doesnt get you a cookie but you asked lol. i'm not special by any means and there are guys on here who can easily best me in any of the above disciplines. I suck at cycling.

You don't have to be a paid professional to put the same level of demand on your body. That's all I was getting at. People idolize the guys on TV and think they're at some transcendental level of physical fitness when the reality is that there are guys sitting at an office desk right now who are fitter than 16/22 riders on any supercross gate.

OwenJakes wrote:

Pro level or pro level of effort - big difference. I am not pro speed or anything but might be able to sniff last place of...

Pro level or pro level of effort - big difference. I am not pro speed or anything but might be able to sniff last place of a pro national by the time the checkers fly. I can crank 4x 30 minute motos on track days at will, run marathons, row at sub 1:50 for 10km, etc. I've always enjoyed athletics and the struggle of fitness. VO2 max around 70. All of this at over 210 lbs. Also was in line to do some work in the bodybuilding world but it's just too cringe for me and I bailed. Nobody cares and it doesnt get you a cookie but you asked lol. i'm not special by any means and there are guys on here who can easily best me in any of the above disciplines. I suck at cycling.

You don't have to be a paid professional to put the same level of demand on your body. That's all I was getting at. People idolize the guys on TV and think they're at some transcendental level of physical fitness when the reality is that there are guys sitting at an office desk right now who are fitter than 16/22 riders on any supercross gate.

LungButter wrote:

OwenJakes wrote:

Knew that was coming.

No response = liar.

Real Response = tough guy.

Tough crowd lol

 

Jeremy A.K. wrote:

I forget who it was on pulp who said he had a big bore 125 and as soon as he got off the track DV12 called...

I forget who it was on pulp who said he had a big bore 125 and as soon as he got off the track DV12 called him out on it LoL

OwenJakes wrote:

What a goof. They wont touch "toxic shit"? What's toxic about it? It's vitamins sucralose and caffeine and salt in various blends and synthetic flavors. Chase...

What a goof. They wont touch "toxic shit"? What's toxic about it? It's vitamins sucralose and caffeine and salt in various blends and synthetic flavors.

Chase sexton literally was slamming red bulls at the test track and commented how he was pumped to have red bull as a sponsor.

I'm on par with professional athletes and I dabble in caffeinated beverages quite frequently. Caffeine is one of the half dozen or so known effective supplements for sports performance. Wait til you find out that they eat dessert too

hanzhongluboy wrote:

just wondering, what sport or hobby you play on a near-pro level, not even being a smart aleck- just genuinely curious!

OwenJakes wrote:

Pro level or pro level of effort - big difference. I am not pro speed or anything but might be able to sniff last place of...

Pro level or pro level of effort - big difference. I am not pro speed or anything but might be able to sniff last place of a pro national by the time the checkers fly. I can crank 4x 30 minute motos on track days at will, run marathons, row at sub 1:50 for 10km, etc. I've always enjoyed athletics and the struggle of fitness. VO2 max around 70. All of this at over 210 lbs. Also was in line to do some work in the bodybuilding world but it's just too cringe for me and I bailed. Nobody cares and it doesnt get you a cookie but you asked lol. i'm not special by any means and there are guys on here who can easily best me in any of the above disciplines. I suck at cycling.

You don't have to be a paid professional to put the same level of demand on your body. That's all I was getting at. People idolize the guys on TV and think they're at some transcendental level of physical fitness when the reality is that there are guys sitting at an office desk right now who are fitter than 16/22 riders on any supercross gate.

OwenJakes wrote:

What a goof. They wont touch "toxic shit"? What's toxic about it? It's vitamins sucralose and caffeine and salt in various blends and synthetic flavors. Chase...

What a goof. They wont touch "toxic shit"? What's toxic about it? It's vitamins sucralose and caffeine and salt in various blends and synthetic flavors.

Chase sexton literally was slamming red bulls at the test track and commented how he was pumped to have red bull as a sponsor.

I'm on par with professional athletes and I dabble in caffeinated beverages quite frequently. Caffeine is one of the half dozen or so known effective supplements for sports performance. Wait til you find out that they eat dessert too

hanzhongluboy wrote:

just wondering, what sport or hobby you play on a near-pro level, not even being a smart aleck- just genuinely curious!

OwenJakes wrote:

Pro level or pro level of effort - big difference. I am not pro speed or anything but might be able to sniff last place of...

Pro level or pro level of effort - big difference. I am not pro speed or anything but might be able to sniff last place of a pro national by the time the checkers fly. I can crank 4x 30 minute motos on track days at will, run marathons, row at sub 1:50 for 10km, etc. I've always enjoyed athletics and the struggle of fitness. VO2 max around 70. All of this at over 210 lbs. Also was in line to do some work in the bodybuilding world but it's just too cringe for me and I bailed. Nobody cares and it doesnt get you a cookie but you asked lol. i'm not special by any means and there are guys on here who can easily best me in any of the above disciplines. I suck at cycling.

You don't have to be a paid professional to put the same level of demand on your body. That's all I was getting at. People idolize the guys on TV and think they're at some transcendental level of physical fitness when the reality is that there are guys sitting at an office desk right now who are fitter than 16/22 riders on any supercross gate.

Jeremy A.K. wrote:

I forget who it was on pulp who said he had a big bore 125 and as soon as he got off the track DV12 called...

I forget who it was on pulp who said he had a big bore 125 and as soon as he got off the track DV12 called him out on it LoL

avidchimp wrote:

Keefer.

ILoveMoto wrote:

Brad Lackey?

Jason XCmtb wrote:

No, it was later than that. I would've been honoured to paint for Bad Brad though! His flame Arai is possibly the coolest helmet ever.

ILoveMoto wrote:

Yea I had my 80's mixed up with my 90's. I did read a good article in which he also did the helmet switcheroo trick. He...

Yea I had my 80's mixed up with my 90's. I did read a good article in which he also did the helmet switcheroo trick. He also ticked Suzuki off by running those Simons forks among other parts.  

hanzhongluboy wrote:

just wondering, what sport or hobby you play on a near-pro level, not even being a smart aleck- just genuinely curious!

OwenJakes wrote:

Pro level or pro level of effort - big difference. I am not pro speed or anything but might be able to sniff last place of...

Pro level or pro level of effort - big difference. I am not pro speed or anything but might be able to sniff last place of a pro national by the time the checkers fly. I can crank 4x 30 minute motos on track days at will, run marathons, row at sub 1:50 for 10km, etc. I've always enjoyed athletics and the struggle of fitness. VO2 max around 70. All of this at over 210 lbs. Also was in line to do some work in the bodybuilding world but it's just too cringe for me and I bailed. Nobody cares and it doesnt get you a cookie but you asked lol. i'm not special by any means and there are guys on here who can easily best me in any of the above disciplines. I suck at cycling.

You don't have to be a paid professional to put the same level of demand on your body. That's all I was getting at. People idolize the guys on TV and think they're at some transcendental level of physical fitness when the reality is that there are guys sitting at an office desk right now who are fitter than 16/22 riders on any supercross gate.

olds cool wrote:

Around 1:50 pace in rowing for 10k would put you among the very elite world wide among rowers if my maths are right.  That would be...

Around 1:50 pace in rowing for 10k would put you among the very elite world wide among rowers if my maths are right.  That would be between 1.8 and 1.9 min/500 m x 20 = around 36-37 min.  That would place you somewhere around the top 150 in the world for this season.  I row 1 mil + m/yr and can’t sniff anything close to that but I am a lot smaller and most likely much older than you.  You are an animal sir, so I’ll tip my hat to you for that.  Are you in here somewhere?:

 

OwenJakes wrote:

Pro level or pro level of effort - big difference. I am not pro speed or anything but might be able to sniff last place of...

Pro level or pro level of effort - big difference. I am not pro speed or anything but might be able to sniff last place of a pro national by the time the checkers fly. I can crank 4x 30 minute motos on track days at will, run marathons, row at sub 1:50 for 10km, etc. I've always enjoyed athletics and the struggle of fitness. VO2 max around 70. All of this at over 210 lbs. Also was in line to do some work in the bodybuilding world but it's just too cringe for me and I bailed. Nobody cares and it doesnt get you a cookie but you asked lol. i'm not special by any means and there are guys on here who can easily best me in any of the above disciplines. I suck at cycling.

You don't have to be a paid professional to put the same level of demand on your body. That's all I was getting at. People idolize the guys on TV and think they're at some transcendental level of physical fitness when the reality is that there are guys sitting at an office desk right now who are fitter than 16/22 riders on any supercross gate.

olds cool wrote:

Around 1:50 pace in rowing for 10k would put you among the very elite world wide among rowers if my maths are right.  That would be...

Around 1:50 pace in rowing for 10k would put you among the very elite world wide among rowers if my maths are right.  That would be between 1.8 and 1.9 min/500 m x 20 = around 36-37 min.  That would place you somewhere around the top 150 in the world for this season.  I row 1 mil + m/yr and can’t sniff anything close to that but I am a lot smaller and most likely much older than you.  You are an animal sir, so I’ll tip my hat to you for that.  Are you in here somewhere?:

 

OwenJakes wrote:

Well I’m not using a concept two but a matrix unit. I do not know how well it will transfer but when I use a concept...

Well I’m not using a concept two but a matrix unit. I do not know how well it will transfer but when I use a concept two occasionally at a foreign gym/vacation it feels very similar. I don’t really use any fitness social apps either but if I had to guess I couldn’t catch a whiff of some of those guys. I am going to say that there’s data or perspective error on my side because I find it hard to believe I’m top 150 at anything. Although I did recently get top 1-2% at some recent rundisney events but a lot of my competition was like fat middle aged women and gay guys so that’s not really something to brag about hahahahahaha

olds cool wrote:

Around 1:50 pace in rowing for 10k would put you among the very elite world wide among rowers if my maths are right.  That would be...

Around 1:50 pace in rowing for 10k would put you among the very elite world wide among rowers if my maths are right.  That would be between 1.8 and 1.9 min/500 m x 20 = around 36-37 min.  That would place you somewhere around the top 150 in the world for this season.  I row 1 mil + m/yr and can’t sniff anything close to that but I am a lot smaller and most likely much older than you.  You are an animal sir, so I’ll tip my hat to you for that.  Are you in here somewhere?:

 

OwenJakes wrote:

Well I’m not using a concept two but a matrix unit. I do not know how well it will transfer but when I use a concept...

Well I’m not using a concept two but a matrix unit. I do not know how well it will transfer but when I use a concept two occasionally at a foreign gym/vacation it feels very similar. I don’t really use any fitness social apps either but if I had to guess I couldn’t catch a whiff of some of those guys. I am going to say that there’s data or perspective error on my side because I find it hard to believe I’m top 150 at anything. Although I did recently get top 1-2% at some recent rundisney events but a lot of my competition was like fat middle aged women and gay guys so that’s not really something to brag about hahahahahaha

olds cool wrote:

So what would be your average 10k time on the matrix rower?