73 race wins is done!!!

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wait for Stance Longcaster to move up.

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Moto Braap wrote:
Deegan and Lawrence are already looking like a future match up with their mugs appearing in ads together.  They seem to draw some fan base and...

Deegan and Lawrence are already looking like a future match up with their mugs appearing in ads together.  They seem to draw some fan base and talent and the broadcast is talking about record crowds.  Lawrence has a full entourage of support and team of trainers but I don’t know if Deegan is missing any personnel.  Brian is a former racer but he might need more like some people say on here.

I agree about everything you said. About the crowds, I think its because of Deegs and Jett but also people want to see Eli Tomac in...

I agree about everything you said. About the crowds, I think its because of Deegs and Jett but also people want to see Eli Tomac in person for one last time. Deegan brought his somewhat established fan base into the sport with him, while jett is having the current fans of the sport come to him if that makes sense, I don't know how to word it exactly.

My mistake the fans are not just there for Jett and Haidan but also the 10 or 20+ guys in each class who have built their own careers.  We got stuck with a sucker punch on here with recent events and quotes but most of us are older fans who know the sport more than a few teenie bopper images.

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I saw a product that said it was made with “cage free eggs” why does it matter if the eggs are in a cage or not?

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I hate to say it, but American riders seem to be getting increasingly weaker (mentally) and foreign riders increasingly stronger (and faster).  This is the culmination...

I hate to say it, but American riders seem to be getting increasingly weaker (mentally) and foreign riders increasingly stronger (and faster).  This is the culmination of decade long process of etiolation.  

 

That said, Deegan did really well tonight, after a poor start.

If it’s FMX freestyle the Aussies are the strongest and most courageous with most of their jump variations and records.

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In his first professional supercross, 16 YO Damon beat reigning SX champ RJ (and everyone else) in the Osaka SX in front of the Japanese brass...

In his first professional supercross, 16 YO Damon beat reigning SX champ RJ (and everyone else) in the Osaka SX in front of the Japanese brass.

People have short memories (or think everyone else does) when it comes to hyping the next phenom or GOAT.

 

Moto Braap wrote:
The experts say how Jett, Sexton, and Deegan are the current total packages compared to the majority of the other riders like ML and Lewis refer...

The experts say how Jett, Sexton, and Deegan are the current total packages compared to the majority of the other riders like ML and Lewis refer to some as having a higher “ceiling”.  There have been amateurs and pros we expected a lot from but it is so easy to have something to go wrong at just 1 round to lose a title which is why our sport is so elite.  They were talking about baseball skills tonight but although they don’t make many errors they get 150+ games and once in the big leagues get at least a 15+ year career to average out.  You can lose a mx ride or have an injury in 1 race.

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What experts are saying Deegan is the total package?

They said it about Jett and Sexton to be the total package, I thought Deegan being claimed as generational meant the same thing.

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What got clipped? ML clipped my totally innocuous thread title last week amd now he's deleting posts? 

Honeymoon is over. Back to GuyB territory.,I guess. 

Holy shit dude....  have a good cry.

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Another idiotic thread that's just gonna make more people sick of Jett...and even sicker of the fans posting this shit. 

 

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The experts say how Jett, Sexton, and Deegan are the current total packages compared to the majority of the other riders like ML and Lewis refer...

The experts say how Jett, Sexton, and Deegan are the current total packages compared to the majority of the other riders like ML and Lewis refer to some as having a higher “ceiling”.  There have been amateurs and pros we expected a lot from but it is so easy to have something to go wrong at just 1 round to lose a title which is why our sport is so elite.  They were talking about baseball skills tonight but although they don’t make many errors they get 150+ games and once in the big leagues get at least a 15+ year career to average out.  You can lose a mx ride or have an injury in 1 race.

CPR wrote:

What experts are saying Deegan is the total package?

Moto Braap wrote:

They said it about Jett and Sexton to be the total package, I thought Deegan being claimed as generational meant the same thing.

Fair enough, although when I’ve heard people refer to Deegan as generational talent, I’ve taken it as reference to being a second generation racer, not being a generational standout talent wise. Because let’s face it, while he has speed, his style is a bit erratic and currently he’s struggling to win regional races.

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There are some rookies in the 250 class that have some serious talent.  I'll make the call right now, Ju Ju Beaumer has insane talent and...

There are some rookies in the 250 class that have some serious talent.  I'll make the call right now, Ju Ju Beaumer has insane talent and is going to be fast as hell once he makes it to the 450s. I saw him doing things in Glendale that only 450 riders were doing (the triple wheel tap in to the 180 and triple out was so ef'ing sick).  He's got a lot of talent if he can keep it on 2 wheels and keep progressing.  As for the current 450 class of riders, I believe Chase will elevate his riding level and push Jett.  Hunter also has the ability to beat his brother.  Once Prado figures it out, he will be tough too.  Look back at what Vialle was last year to where he is this year.  If his progression continues, he could be a contender as well.  There's just no way to know what the field will look like in a few years.

I’m with you in some of that. I don’t think Hunter can beat Jett straight up in a 450 race but I do agree in that I think JuJu appears to be the real deal. IMO, it’s too late in his career for Prado to become a real 450 SX star but he can definitely be a solid factory SX rider and 100% be a title contender for years when it comes to AMA motocross. My hot take: I think Justin Cooper will continue to grown in the 450 class and become one of the few guys that is challenging Jett in the future, at least on certain weekends. I think Kitchen can follow the same type of path as J. Coop and be a slow burn. I think Deegan can definitely be one of the top 450 guys in a few years but only if he isn’t distracted by making content and putting racing above all else. 
 

Me being hopeful: Forkner just goes 450 even if he never gets the 250 title and not wringing the neck off a 250f keeps him off the ground and he becomes a solid 450 guy that can break out on any given weekend. 
 

One thing is for sure after I ponder just a few of these things, the future of SX/MX isn’t going to be boring even if Jett continues to be “the guy”. 

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3/16/2024 11:21pm Edited Date/Time 3/17/2024 1:49am
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People will disagree but chase has to get comfy on that bike. He’s on arguably one of the top three teams in the paddock and continually...

People will disagree but chase has to get comfy on that bike. He’s on arguably one of the top three teams in the paddock and continually complains about bike setup. Learn to ride it or move on man not everything will be tailor made to you. 
 

guys would kill to be in his spot, AP is doing great. Stop blaming the bike and just ride the damn thing.

 

getting kind of sick of riders thinking everything needs to be perfect to win. Maybe you’re not as good as everyone told you you were.

edit: case in point Kroc. On a satellite team with. Bike from 2018 with no e start. Has no issues beating chase regularly and honestly riding better. Stop focusing on what you don’t have and ride the bike.

I wonder what he’d say if Chase hopped on another bike like people say if he might do better and or noticed any improvement.  He looked plenty fast at Indy.  The Honda had a narrower room for error where the KTM isn’t knifing so he has an improvement already for his riding style.  He is under a big contract so it’s hard to believe they couldn’t come up with something that works but then again they just had issues with Webb having some kind of problems.  Whether the bike or the rider it’s touchy but certain riders like Plessinger and Chase’s new teammate Vialle are finding good success.  If Chase is still in good with the bosses look for more improvements coming off the hand injury and late testing on the bike but he seems already there. 

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CPR wrote:

What experts are saying Deegan is the total package?

Moto Braap wrote:

They said it about Jett and Sexton to be the total package, I thought Deegan being claimed as generational meant the same thing.

CPR wrote:
Fair enough, although when I’ve heard people refer to Deegan as generational talent, I’ve taken it as reference to being a second generation racer, not being...

Fair enough, although when I’ve heard people refer to Deegan as generational talent, I’ve taken it as reference to being a second generation racer, not being a generational standout talent wise. Because let’s face it, while he has speed, his style is a bit erratic and currently he’s struggling to win regional races.

Deegan is pretty banged up where I was surprised he rushed in with a wrist injury to race, then crashed the opening round and may have made it worse, and then a tailbone injury at Daytona.  He is a racer good at hiding it but he is likely not 100%.  If RC is calling him generational he used that same term about Jett when he was coming up with his bike skills that can quickly get fine tuned with the right support.  Jett seems to have more individual help where 250 Yamaha is a lot of team effort.

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3/16/2024 11:38pm Edited Date/Time 3/17/2024 1:51am
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the lawrences seem to be money motivated moreso than some others so I think once the accounts are where they want them I would not be...

the lawrences seem to be money motivated moreso than some others so I think once the accounts are where they want them I would not be surprised to see Jett walk away sooner than we think. Especially if he is injury free.

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It helps to get toys if you so well as a reward.  The boy with the biggest toy wins…ever seen Stew’s cribs garage?

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CPR wrote:

What experts are saying Deegan is the total package?

Moto Braap wrote:

They said it about Jett and Sexton to be the total package, I thought Deegan being claimed as generational meant the same thing.

CPR wrote:
Fair enough, although when I’ve heard people refer to Deegan as generational talent, I’ve taken it as reference to being a second generation racer, not being...

Fair enough, although when I’ve heard people refer to Deegan as generational talent, I’ve taken it as reference to being a second generation racer, not being a generational standout talent wise. Because let’s face it, while he has speed, his style is a bit erratic and currently he’s struggling to win regional races.

I never even heard the word generational before the other you tube star guy with 12,000 baseballs who caught Mike Trout’s first home run insisted on getting a signed bat and picture with him before he would cough up the ball back.  I don’t keep track of Trout but he doesn’t sound like the next Barry Bonds unjuiced for this ‘generation’ of talent.  

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Moto Braap wrote:

They said it about Jett and Sexton to be the total package, I thought Deegan being claimed as generational meant the same thing.

CPR wrote:
Fair enough, although when I’ve heard people refer to Deegan as generational talent, I’ve taken it as reference to being a second generation racer, not being...

Fair enough, although when I’ve heard people refer to Deegan as generational talent, I’ve taken it as reference to being a second generation racer, not being a generational standout talent wise. Because let’s face it, while he has speed, his style is a bit erratic and currently he’s struggling to win regional races.

Moto Braap wrote:
I never even heard the word generational before the other you tube star guy with 12,000 baseballs who caught Mike Trout’s first home run insisted on...

I never even heard the word generational before the other you tube star guy with 12,000 baseballs who caught Mike Trout’s first home run insisted on getting a signed bat and picture with him before he would cough up the ball back.  I don’t keep track of Trout but he doesn’t sound like the next Barry Bonds unjuiced for this ‘generation’ of talent.  

Sorry no idea what you’re talking about.

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Mercy. 

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Magoofan wrote:

Another idiotic thread that's just gonna make more people sick of Jett...and even sicker of the fans posting this shit. 

 

Proclaims to hate Jett fans but posts in every Jett thread…

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Jett is very, very talented, but to think he won't have serious competition for the next 10 years is complete foolishness.

 

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Magoofan wrote:

Another idiotic thread that's just gonna make more people sick of Jett...and even sicker of the fans posting this shit. 

 

ando wrote:

Proclaims to hate Jett fans but posts in every Jett thread…

Dog, he’s just hallucinating at this point. To act as if the majority of this forum are Jett fanboys and aren’t sick and tired of the amount force feeding the Feld team is shoving the Lawrence brand down our unwilling throats is just straight up delusional. It’s like claiming everyone here LOVES the broadcast and how the show is produced.

 

Dude can’t help himself if the topic is about A, B or C. (Jett, Deegan or Other) It’s just straight up shadow boxing with imaginary internet “haterz” if someone talks about anything Deegan related, any comment regarding a Lawrence is viewed as an “insane fan” and if the the topic has nothing to do with either, he shoe horns in a beaten to death joke about “The Huntah Line” because it was funny one time a couple months ago. 

If you take any sort of time to read the comments on this board it’s very clear what the popular opinions are and none of the overall consensus is in favor of the Jett, Hunter or Haiden media bukkake we’re all being drowned in. It’s fine if you’re a fan of someone, in fact it’s very normal, but to be so obtusely hypocritical in every post and then try to moral grandstand over everyone else, it’s no wonder 99% of his posts are overwhelmingly downvoted. (In before he says we just don’t get his humor and snark)

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Trickamoto wrote:

He's 20, there's nobody coming up. The only threats are retiring....Do the math.

Somebody will come out of nowhere just like the king did and wax jet watch, be careful what u dream4, it only happens when u never expect it, jett is expected to win, just remember LIFE AT THE TOP AIN'T ALWAYS WHAT IT SEEMS

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CPR wrote:
Fair enough, although when I’ve heard people refer to Deegan as generational talent, I’ve taken it as reference to being a second generation racer, not being...

Fair enough, although when I’ve heard people refer to Deegan as generational talent, I’ve taken it as reference to being a second generation racer, not being a generational standout talent wise. Because let’s face it, while he has speed, his style is a bit erratic and currently he’s struggling to win regional races.

Moto Braap wrote:
I never even heard the word generational before the other you tube star guy with 12,000 baseballs who caught Mike Trout’s first home run insisted on...

I never even heard the word generational before the other you tube star guy with 12,000 baseballs who caught Mike Trout’s first home run insisted on getting a signed bat and picture with him before he would cough up the ball back.  I don’t keep track of Trout but he doesn’t sound like the next Barry Bonds unjuiced for this ‘generation’ of talent.  

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Sorry no idea what you’re talking about.

And again, meth is a hell of a drug. 

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Magoofan wrote:

Another idiotic thread that's just gonna make more people sick of Jett...and even sicker of the fans posting this shit. 

 

ando wrote:

Proclaims to hate Jett fans but posts in every Jett thread…

I know, his problem with Jett is pathological.

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Magoofan wrote:

Another idiotic thread that's just gonna make more people sick of Jett...and even sicker of the fans posting this shit. 

 

ando wrote:

Proclaims to hate Jett fans but posts in every Jett thread…

aeffertz wrote:
Dog, he’s just hallucinating at this point. To act as if the majority of this forum are Jett fanboys and aren’t sick and tired of the...

Dog, he’s just hallucinating at this point. To act as if the majority of this forum are Jett fanboys and aren’t sick and tired of the amount force feeding the Feld team is shoving the Lawrence brand down our unwilling throats is just straight up delusional. It’s like claiming everyone here LOVES the broadcast and how the show is produced.

 

Dude can’t help himself if the topic is about A, B or C. (Jett, Deegan or Other) It’s just straight up shadow boxing with imaginary internet “haterz” if someone talks about anything Deegan related, any comment regarding a Lawrence is viewed as an “insane fan” and if the the topic has nothing to do with either, he shoe horns in a beaten to death joke about “The Huntah Line” because it was funny one time a couple months ago. 

If you take any sort of time to read the comments on this board it’s very clear what the popular opinions are and none of the overall consensus is in favor of the Jett, Hunter or Haiden media bukkake we’re all being drowned in. It’s fine if you’re a fan of someone, in fact it’s very normal, but to be so obtusely hypocritical in every post and then try to moral grandstand over everyone else, it’s no wonder 99% of his posts are overwhelmingly downvoted. (In before he says we just don’t get his humor and snark)

The 'other' is generally Webb in his rants. 

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Radical wrote:

Jett is very, very talented, but to think he won't have serious competition for the next 10 years is complete foolishness.

 

I’m glad someone said it.

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Somebody will come out of nowhere just like the king did and wax jet watch, be careful what u dream4, it only happens when u never...

Somebody will come out of nowhere just like the king did and wax jet watch, be careful what u dream4, it only happens when u never expect it, jett is expected to win, just remember LIFE AT THE TOP AIN'T ALWAYS WHAT IT SEEMS

I think Prado once he figures everything out will beat jett in races. Also injuries can happen at times you least expect it like in denver last year. People think that jett isn’t injury prone, every single rider out there is. 

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3/17/2024 1:57am Edited Date/Time 3/17/2024 1:59am
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I never even heard the word generational before the other you tube star guy with 12,000 baseballs who caught Mike Trout’s first home run insisted on...

I never even heard the word generational before the other you tube star guy with 12,000 baseballs who caught Mike Trout’s first home run insisted on getting a signed bat and picture with him before he would cough up the ball back.  I don’t keep track of Trout but he doesn’t sound like the next Barry Bonds unjuiced for this ‘generation’ of talent.  

CPR wrote:

Sorry no idea what you’re talking about.

Herr Lich wrote:

And again, meth is a hell of a drug. 

Lmao Zack Hample Youtuber claims to have collected 12,000 baseballs at stadiums and got Mike Trout’s first homer using the term generational talent I hadn’t heard before.

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Radical wrote:

Jett is very, very talented, but to think he won't have serious competition for the next 10 years is complete foolishness.

 

I’m glad someone said it.

20 riders on the gate and 15 to try and lap without obstruction.

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Haven’t touched shit. I only delete sexist or racist posts / then suspend said users. One of our mods clipped NP301’s post in this thread because...

Haven’t touched shit.

I only delete sexist or racist posts / then suspend said users.

One of our mods clipped NP301’s post in this thread because he told the OP “shut up annoying ass cunt”

Which will earn him a suspension. Rule against personal attacks that users can’t seem to follow…

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/non-moto/illegal-immigrant-problem
 

 

This racist shits been up all week. It’s been reported my multiple members. 

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3/17/2024 4:16am

Deegan is the only one at this point of time that might challenge Jett only due to the fact he's a psycho that truly believes he belongs and deserves to win like JS, RC and RV he's cut from the same cloth as those 3.

That said I believe he will fall short on skill but he will die trying no doubt.

 

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Shame about the US amateur system. Multiple posts on here saying Prado may be Jett's competition, but hardly a mention of any fast young Americans save for Deegan. Whom I think we can all agree, has his distractions. This country is perhaps the largest and wealthiest country that races MX/SX, we certainly have the largest aftermarket, the most tracks, the most dealers, the most trainers, the biggest amateur events. That a kid from a country whose entire population is perhaps equal to the state of Texas can dominate is embarrassing to those involved in coordinating the growth and health of the sport in this country. That Jett is not the only example reinforces the lack of America's ability to develop talent, Prado, Vialle, Davies in futures, a rider admittedly past his prime from Germany the only one who can hang with him here now, on and on. 

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Shame about the US amateur system. Multiple posts on here saying Prado may be Jett's competition, but hardly a mention of any fast young Americans save...

Shame about the US amateur system. Multiple posts on here saying Prado may be Jett's competition, but hardly a mention of any fast young Americans save for Deegan. Whom I think we can all agree, has his distractions. This country is perhaps the largest and wealthiest country that races MX/SX, we certainly have the largest aftermarket, the most tracks, the most dealers, the most trainers, the biggest amateur events. That a kid from a country whose entire population is perhaps equal to the state of Texas can dominate is embarrassing to those involved in coordinating the growth and health of the sport in this country. That Jett is not the only example reinforces the lack of America's ability to develop talent, Prado, Vialle, Davies in futures, a rider admittedly past his prime from Germany the only one who can hang with him here now, on and on. 

Holy that last line was killer, facts.

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