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The kid has grown so much and deserves so much better.
I'm with you, but at the same time you can't make someone if they don't want to, they can refuse.
I have given him crap over the years admittedly, was telling the wife I have warmed up to him and hope he has a great year and not a couple minutes later the gnarly crash...was a jaw dropper and felt horrible for him. Truly hope he recovers and marches forward.
Hope he is ok. Don't really understand why Mitch has stuck with him so long. About the 4th crash out in a row should have been enough.
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I think you need the decision making capacity to refuse care. Either way poor Forkner. Hope he’s ok and not seriously injured.
the speed and heart hes shown over the past few years says enough.
Yea that startled me, my heart skipped a beat! 😲
Rumor in the pits late in the night is a badly injured shoulder. Like broken/shattered. Once again, rumor, but from a good source.
You have no idea what was wrong with him. That may very well have been the safest way to get him off the track.
Oof. That’s not surprising. That took the brunt of the impact and I was thinking after watching replays it looked like his shoulder blade must be in rough shape. More concerning is the knock out though. He was lights out…
I hope he retires. I'm sick of watching him try to kill himself every year.
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Backboards haven't been recommended for most traumatic injuries since 2013 when the National Association of EMS Physicians recommended the switch from Spinal immobilization to Spinal Motion Restriction. Evidence was spotty at best for using a backboard and more studies show that it can cause more harm in some cases and most likely doesn't prevent spinal injuries from occurring after an accident. Not to say a backboard isn't useful in certain scenarios but they obviously assessed him quickly after the accident and determined it wasn't necessary. Backboard use was based on data in the 70s when Spinal Immobilization became a thing off of no data. If Austin had no numbness or tingliness in his extremities, no obvious deformities, good CMS, no signs of trauma on his back and he was able to walk then I feel they made the right call.
If there were any signs of Austin having a spinal cord injury they wouldn't have him walk. With Brian Moreau there were clearly signs of a spinal cord injury when he told them he can't move his legs, that is definitely backboard worthy and they could be held liable for that one if Brian can prove they caused damage for being negligent.
There is a very wide chasm between not boarding someone and having them walk to the ambulance. They put the collar on for a reason, right?
And even with the most up to date recommendations, a board is definitely in the conversation here.
Like others, so incredibly bummed for him. First year really pulling for him after his maturing from his punk years. How could you not after what he's been through yet still keeps coming back with that speed?
From a broadcast view he looked completely in control all race, actually both races so far where, up to that crash, he had lead every single lap of both mains.
Not at all mad at him catching and passing Deegan in the heat. The #38 can absolutely eat a full bag of dicks following his podium comments. Forkner had that main on lock, at least until he didn't, and can take Deegan to school on dealing with adversity.
Really hoping it's not the last we see from him this season. Already proven himself as best in class (east region) in my opinion.
Absolutely in the conversation! But like I mentioned, based on their findings and questioning they deemed it not warranted. Not every traumatic injury gets a backboard hence the change to SMR. Just because someone gets a collar doesn't mean they get a backboard. Gone are the days of "everyone gets a backboard based on the MOI" due to studies and empirical evidence showing little to almost no difference in patient outcomes unless signs of a spinal cord injury are already present. Every scenario is different, they had him walk a few steps to the mule, they felt it was safe based on their assessment. In the conversation? YES! Necessary? Not always.
Felt sick to my stomach watching that crash. Kid has been through hell and back throughout his career. Hopefully he’s not too banged up.
heartbreaking. 💔
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No, fill me in. They have airbags now or somethin?
I hope he takes it as just a bump in the road. His speed before that was awesome. Sending some healing vibes
That's what I said to my wife when she heard me freaking out upstairs, "I have a pit in my stomach like Kenny in 2017". I have not always been the biggest fan of Austin, but he did seem to be maturing and was looking to be his best self this season. I sincerely hope he makes a full recovery.
Poor Fork and Mitch. Is the PC Curse still real? I hope Kitchen can pull through and get the chip..
I sure hope he had Austin’s permission before posting that.
This picture emphasizes even more how crazy it was they were letting him walk around after that huge crash.
He didn’t “try” to hurt himself. He had an accident. Big difference
I’ve been an EMT for 6 years and idt I would have him walking in a c-collar after that. They had a backboard right next to him. Something about the Alpinestars medical crew gives me bad vibes. It’s a race and it’s also this kid’s life. Red flag it if you have doubts don’t make him walk to the mule jfc.
brings me back to Brian moreau and “do no harm” as a thing we preach
You are absolutely right!
They will never learn! Anyone with half a brain knows that after such a spinal contusion you have to stabilize the patient in a horizontal position!
Never, ever make him sit or walk. There is a danger of compromising the cord as they have done before (see Brian and others).
They would be reportable and if they are doctors ban them from practicing for incompetence
Do no harm!
That was one of the worst crashes I've seen in years, looked like such a neck breaker... Wish all the best for Austin, that was rough
Get well quickly Austin. Praying for ya
Hope he is OK. That looked so gnarly and his face said it all. Heart broken.
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