I pretty much changed the sport .

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2/5/2024 8:39pm Edited Date/Time 2/5/2024 9:42pm

Who promoted the 1st Supercross? 

That’s the last person to truly change our sport. 

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studworx wrote:
Hmm, in that sense his straight back, hips out technique is exactly what we see being pushed. So is he wrong? He didn't originate it but...

Hmm, in that sense his straight back, hips out technique is exactly what we see being pushed. So is he wrong? He didn't originate it but was the first coach to push it

No he isn’t. Literally every coach pushes this and has been since riding coaches were a thing. 

studworx wrote:
That’s just literally not true. Standing through everything was never taught until a few years ago. Ryno had pushed that for ages. Like I said, he...

That’s just literally not true. Standing through everything was never taught until a few years ago. Ryno had pushed that for ages. Like I said, he didn’t originate anything. But he pushed it as a coach first. 

Standing through everything has been a riding coach staple for decades, taking the seat off and doing motos was a thing since at least the 1970s. 

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I just read the article and one thing that I think is very apparent is how of often he says "I, I'm, I'd" etc. Obviously the article is largely a discussion about his and Forkner's relationship and he will use those a bit. But he seems to lean extremely into it being very centred around him. 

 

Regarding the context the quote this thread is based around. To me, it doesn't really change how you interpet him saying that without any context...

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I just read the article and one thing that I think is very apparent is how of often he says "I, I'm, I'd" etc. Obviously the article is largely a discussion about his and Forkner's relationship and he will use those a bit. But he seems to lean extremely into it being very centred around him. 

Regarding the context the quote this thread is based around. To me, it doesn't really change how you interpet him saying that without any context...

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No he isn’t. Literally every coach pushes this and has been since riding coaches were a thing. 

studworx wrote:
That’s just literally not true. Standing through everything was never taught until a few years ago. Ryno had pushed that for ages. Like I said, he...

That’s just literally not true. Standing through everything was never taught until a few years ago. Ryno had pushed that for ages. Like I said, he didn’t originate anything. But he pushed it as a coach first. 

Gravel wrote:

Standing through everything has been a riding coach staple for decades, taking the seat off and doing motos was a thing since at least the 1970s. 

You mean standing in the corners and everywhere on the track i.e. "Decoster style"?  Nah, Ryno invented it.  I heard he also was the 5th Beetle.  I like Ryan and think he's good for the sport.  But some things he says are silly.  I'm sure he's a quality coach, but he hasn't revolutionized anything.  Emphasized?  Sure.

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He pretty much got rid of neck braces, that's a change to the sport? 😂

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studworx wrote:
That’s just literally not true. Standing through everything was never taught until a few years ago. Ryno had pushed that for ages. Like I said, he...

That’s just literally not true. Standing through everything was never taught until a few years ago. Ryno had pushed that for ages. Like I said, he didn’t originate anything. But he pushed it as a coach first. 

Gravel wrote:

Standing through everything has been a riding coach staple for decades, taking the seat off and doing motos was a thing since at least the 1970s. 

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You mean standing in the corners and everywhere on the track i.e. "Decoster style"?  Nah, Ryno invented it.  I heard he also was the 5th Beetle. ...

You mean standing in the corners and everywhere on the track i.e. "Decoster style"?  Nah, Ryno invented it.  I heard he also was the 5th Beetle.  I like Ryan and think he's good for the sport.  But some things he says are silly.  I'm sure he's a quality coach, but he hasn't revolutionized anything.  Emphasized?  Sure.

But riders never stood in corners before Ryno...

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But riders never stood in corners before Ryno...

But riders never stood in corners before Ryno...

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That is one of my favorite moto pics.  

Ryno certainly has been, and is an influence.  He's not for everyone, and he says some... things...  but I like his style and I could hang with him. He reminds me of some kind of crazy cult leader.  I'd like to start a cult...A fun one.  Far out man!

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2/6/2024 2:37am Edited Date/Time 2/6/2024 2:38am

Ryno reminds me of Oswald Bates...

https://youtu.be/9ROOi5xagxg

I kind of feel bad for the guy, I seriously think he needs some psychiatric help. 

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No he isn’t. Literally every coach pushes this and has been since riding coaches were a thing. 

studworx wrote:
That’s just literally not true. Standing through everything was never taught until a few years ago. Ryno had pushed that for ages. Like I said, he...

That’s just literally not true. Standing through everything was never taught until a few years ago. Ryno had pushed that for ages. Like I said, he didn’t originate anything. But he pushed it as a coach first. 

Gravel wrote:

Standing through everything has been a riding coach staple for decades, taking the seat off and doing motos was a thing since at least the 1970s. 

Seatless motos were never to encourage standing everywhere. That’s why when you put it back on you started sitting again. It was to teach balance and control. Coaches never ever ever were talking about standing through deep ruts and such. Find a reputable coach on YouTube mentioning it in any video before 2017-2018 and post it. 

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Ryno said his riding technique changed the sport. 

Certainly helped Forkner Saturday.

Never seen him look so calm, and controlled. 

I figure he could have easily won, even without the carnage in the 1st turn.

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The crazy thing is i remember before Villopoto really started winning there was an interview with Ryno where he discussed the top riders of the time...

The crazy thing is i remember before Villopoto really started winning there was an interview with Ryno where he discussed the top riders of the time and said that Villopoto's style was capable of the most speed.  Basically his stand up,  feet in,  hips unlocked style made him capable of going faster than Stew, Dungey and Reed.  ....and he wasn't wrong.  

I know the exact interview. He broke down Dungey, Villopoto, Stewart, and Reeds technique. In was during the 2011 sx season when it was that 4-way...

I know the exact interview. He broke down Dungey, Villopoto, Stewart, and Reeds technique. In was during the 2011 sx season when it was that 4-way battle. He was big on RV riding on the balls of his feet and I don't think Stewart did

If you watch his kx125 days you see that Stewart is on the front of the foot on the peg. I think Carmichael did it already as well. But maybe adopted from Stewart.

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studworx wrote:
That’s just literally not true. Standing through everything was never taught until a few years ago. Ryno had pushed that for ages. Like I said, he...

That’s just literally not true. Standing through everything was never taught until a few years ago. Ryno had pushed that for ages. Like I said, he didn’t originate anything. But he pushed it as a coach first. 

Gravel wrote:

Standing through everything has been a riding coach staple for decades, taking the seat off and doing motos was a thing since at least the 1970s. 

studworx wrote:
Seatless motos were never to encourage standing everywhere. That’s why when you put it back on you started sitting again. It was to teach balance and...

Seatless motos were never to encourage standing everywhere. That’s why when you put it back on you started sitting again. It was to teach balance and control. Coaches never ever ever were talking about standing through deep ruts and such. Find a reputable coach on YouTube mentioning it in any video before 2017-2018 and post it. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbUv_mgpLO0 is a Gary Bailey video from the 90's about standing up. A technique he has been teaching since the 70's. 

 

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2/6/2024 6:43am Edited Date/Time 2/6/2024 6:47am
studworx wrote:
That’s just literally not true. Standing through everything was never taught until a few years ago. Ryno had pushed that for ages. Like I said, he...

That’s just literally not true. Standing through everything was never taught until a few years ago. Ryno had pushed that for ages. Like I said, he didn’t originate anything. But he pushed it as a coach first. 

Gravel wrote:

Standing through everything has been a riding coach staple for decades, taking the seat off and doing motos was a thing since at least the 1970s. 

studworx wrote:
Seatless motos were never to encourage standing everywhere. That’s why when you put it back on you started sitting again. It was to teach balance and...

Seatless motos were never to encourage standing everywhere. That’s why when you put it back on you started sitting again. It was to teach balance and control. Coaches never ever ever were talking about standing through deep ruts and such. Find a reputable coach on YouTube mentioning it in any video before 2017-2018 and post it. 

Edit: never mind….

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nobody is more impressed by Ryno, than Ryno.

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He also said that he could have made a million dollars with this info but instead "gave it to the sport."  Gotta love ol Ryno.

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JB 19 wrote:
The crazy thing is i remember before Villopoto really started winning there was an interview with Ryno where he discussed the top riders of the time...

The crazy thing is i remember before Villopoto really started winning there was an interview with Ryno where he discussed the top riders of the time and said that Villopoto's style was capable of the most speed.  Basically his stand up,  feet in,  hips unlocked style made him capable of going faster than Stew, Dungey and Reed.  ....and he wasn't wrong.  

I know the exact interview. He broke down Dungey, Villopoto, Stewart, and Reeds technique. In was during the 2011 sx season when it was that 4-way...

I know the exact interview. He broke down Dungey, Villopoto, Stewart, and Reeds technique. In was during the 2011 sx season when it was that 4-way battle. He was big on RV riding on the balls of his feet and I don't think Stewart did

Jabe wrote:
If you watch his kx125 days you see that Stewart is on the front of the foot on the peg. I think Carmichael did it already...

If you watch his kx125 days you see that Stewart is on the front of the foot on the peg. I think Carmichael did it already as well. But maybe adopted from Stewart.

Ok I'm thinking of a different critique he had for Stewart then. I'd love to go back and find that Ryno interview. I know Keefer had a tweet or a comment on Instagram recently where he's was talking about riding on the balls of your feet. I'm gonna to butcher what he said but it was basically, look you can still go fast even if you don't ride on the balls of your feet. RC commented on his post and said he spent his entire career not riding on the balls of his feet

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I've been on and long time off (not following mx for 10years at all) and on again, can only say it's a huge difference how the new crop of riders ride vs RC and his age group of riders, they look like farmer johns on a clapped 2-stroke compared to how Sexton and the new school rides. I do think Ryno seems to embrace the new school more than some others. I like what he has done with Forkner. 

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Don't know him, can't judge however - he's driven, passionate, and has the courage of his convictions. He's made a career out of what he loves.   

I'll respect that.  

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I think there is a misconception that people have been riding dirt bikes forever by standing on the pegs, and they have,  but mostly not in the way that the new school is.   Basically balls of your feet with your butt pointed directly backwards, knees over the pegs and back straight.   That's a pretty new thing.   Even Ryno didn't ride that way 25 years ago.  The only guy that really did was Everts.  I've wondered if Ryan learned that from racing in Europe and watching Everts. 

RC went faster than he should have been able to just off of brute strength, which is a cheat code in itself and may be the only way to consistently beat Jett.  

For extra credit watch some old videos of JMB and notice how similar the knee placement and arm position is to Jett. 

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I know the exact interview. He broke down Dungey, Villopoto, Stewart, and Reeds technique. In was during the 2011 sx season when it was that 4-way...

I know the exact interview. He broke down Dungey, Villopoto, Stewart, and Reeds technique. In was during the 2011 sx season when it was that 4-way battle. He was big on RV riding on the balls of his feet and I don't think Stewart did

Jabe wrote:
If you watch his kx125 days you see that Stewart is on the front of the foot on the peg. I think Carmichael did it already...

If you watch his kx125 days you see that Stewart is on the front of the foot on the peg. I think Carmichael did it already as well. But maybe adopted from Stewart.

Ok I'm thinking of a different critique he had for Stewart then. I'd love to go back and find that Ryno interview. I know Keefer had...

Ok I'm thinking of a different critique he had for Stewart then. I'd love to go back and find that Ryno interview. I know Keefer had a tweet or a comment on Instagram recently where he's was talking about riding on the balls of your feet. I'm gonna to butcher what he said but it was basically, look you can still go fast even if you don't ride on the balls of your feet. RC commented on his post and said he spent his entire career not riding on the balls of his feet

Stew and RC may have not rode on the balls of there feet, but there backs are straight compared to the other guys.

I took ten years off and got a bike 3 years ago. I made it a point to figure out how to ride like Ryno says to and I'm riding better than I ever have.0J0A2512 0thanks Ryno. I know my back isn't perfectly straight but cut me slack I'm a fuckin carpenter.

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Which sport?

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Falcon wrote:

Which sport?

Pickleball 

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In case you haven't noticed, the smart money is on saying things that will get other people to talk about you. This thread is mission accomplished.

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studworx wrote:
Seatless motos were never to encourage standing everywhere. That’s why when you put it back on you started sitting again. It was to teach balance and...

Seatless motos were never to encourage standing everywhere. That’s why when you put it back on you started sitting again. It was to teach balance and control. Coaches never ever ever were talking about standing through deep ruts and such. Find a reputable coach on YouTube mentioning it in any video before 2017-2018 and post it. 

I took a riding class in 2006 with Gary Bailey. He had a straightaway/sweeper, separate from the main track, that was footpeg-deep ruts for what seemed like forever. This was left rough and rutty specifically for the MX school. He preached about standing up, looking ahead, and being smooth on the throttle. If we sat down, dabbed a foot, got caught staring at the front fender, took a finger off the clutch, or tipped over we had to circle back and do it again...twice in a row. Did I mention it was raining?

You must be new to the sport. Standing up through ruts has been a thing for a long time, especially in Europe.

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early wrote:

In case you haven't noticed, the smart money is on saying things that will get other people to talk about you. This thread is mission accomplished.

I wonder if Ryno refuses to give lessons to 450 riders in the D/C class?

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Here are some who could say they changed the sport in their own way, Hannah, Bailey, Johnson, JMB, McGrath, RC, Stew.

Ryno is very far from being one of them. That's the most schizophrenic thing I've ever heard... 

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Here are some who could say they changed the sport in their own way, Hannah, Bailey, Johnson, JMB, McGrath, RC, Stew. Ryno is very far from...

Here are some who could say they changed the sport in their own way, Hannah, Bailey, Johnson, JMB, McGrath, RC, Stew.

Ryno is very far from being one of them. That's the most schizophrenic thing I've ever heard... 

Don't forget Roger 🙂

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He also said that he could have made a million dollars with this info but instead "gave it to the sport."  Gotta love ol Ryno.

"Now buy my product."

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