250 East, stacked lineup!....

1/28/2024 11:02pm
He'll have improved, but the field is 2x deeper than it was last year.  He didn't even really have anything for the top guys in outdoors...

He'll have improved, but the field is 2x deeper than it was last year.  He didn't even really have anything for the top guys in outdoors either. 

This year Outdoors will be a different story, believe me.

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Please correct me if I’m wrong, but there’s not even a race winner from last year lining up in East?

I think the only previous race winners are Forkner and McAdoo from two years ago, as well as Martin from six years ago.

Should be a good opportunity for some new guys.

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CPR wrote:

Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I think West has more front runners.

bowl wrote:

Yup West is  deeper top end talent.

 

Last year's smx results.

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2,3,4,5 and 7 are all west.

1 and 8 east.

6 and 9 are 450.

10 was jalek I didn't crop him he just didn't fit in the screen shot.

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He'll have improved, but the field is 2x deeper than it was last year.  He didn't even really have anything for the top guys in outdoors...

He'll have improved, but the field is 2x deeper than it was last year.  He didn't even really have anything for the top guys in outdoors either. 

This year Outdoors will be a different story, believe me.

lol okay... because he didn't have much experience riding outdoors before this season??

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1/29/2024 1:39am Edited Date/Time 1/29/2024 1:41am

Can't wait for Jeremy Martin to randomly uncork, if he doesn't get hurt.. They all should be scared for the nationals. I genuinely think he is the fastest person on that list, but a lot like Craig, injuries and other BS can kill a career.

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MX Culture wrote:
The 250 East lineup is deep. Here is who I came up with and I’m sure I’m missing a few privateers as well. If you have...

The 250 East lineup is deep.

Here is who I came up with and I’m sure I’m missing a few privateers as well.

If you have someone to add, post it and I’ll add them to the list.

Who do you have for East podiums or the championship?...

 

 6   Jeremy Martin

16  Tom Vialle

33  Jalek Swoll

37  Max Anstie

38  Haiden Deegan

39  Pierce Brown

40  Dilan Schwartz

43  Seth Hammaker

48  Chance Hymas

50  Enzo Lopes

58  Cullin Park

59  Daxton Bennick

60  Lorenzo Lacrucio

61  Stilez Robertson

63  Cameron McAdoo

64  Ausin Forkner

65  Henry Miller

69  Coty Schock

75  Marshall Weltin

76  Michael Mosiman ??

77  Preston Kilroy

80  Michael Hicks

82  Mitchell Harrison

83  Guillem Farres

86  Luca Marsalisi

89  Luke Neese

90  Hardy Munoz

93  Bryce Shelly

99  Jett Reynolds

242  Grant Hoffman

511  Nick Romano

602  Gage Linville

751  Evan Ferry ??

900  Keegan Rowley

964 Nique Thury

 

Catanzaro is not riding SX this year

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1/29/2024 6:32am Edited Date/Time 1/29/2024 6:57am

East doesn't look weak at all to me

Potential Race Winners

Martin

Vialle

Anstie

Brown

Robertson

McAdoo

Mosiman

Forkner

Deegan

Lopes

Hammaker

 

I do think Deegan is the strongest of the field, if he is a step above everyone else, it could be a snoozer, but if he didnt improve much from last year, or took a step back, we could be in for a good series.

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mb60 wrote:

I'm hoping for Hammaker to step up or Brown. But going in im thinking Deegan, Forkner, Lopes to start off. 

Lopes is hurt. 

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He'll have improved, but the field is 2x deeper than it was last year.  He didn't even really have anything for the top guys in outdoors...

He'll have improved, but the field is 2x deeper than it was last year.  He didn't even really have anything for the top guys in outdoors either. 

This year Outdoors will be a different story, believe me.

lol okay... because he didn't have much experience riding outdoors before this season??

Roczen was much better in 2013, his 2nd run at the Nationals

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1/29/2024 6:39am Edited Date/Time 1/29/2024 6:40am
East doesn't look weak at all to me Potential Race Winners Martin Vialle Anstie Brown Robertson McAdoo Mosiman Forkner Deegan Lopes Hammaker   I do think...

East doesn't look weak at all to me

Potential Race Winners

Martin

Vialle

Anstie

Brown

Robertson

McAdoo

Mosiman

Forkner

Deegan

Lopes

Hammaker

 

I do think Deegan is the strongest of the field, if he is a step above everyone else, it could be a snoozer, but if he didnt improve much from last year, or took a step back, we could be in for a good series.

Aside from Deegan, Forkner, and McAdoo the East is thin.

Forkner and McAdoo are in the dirt quite a bit. 

Martin cannot get through a full SX series uninjured.

Vialle could be a spoiler, but he'd have to improved a lot over the off-season.

Mosiman is wildly inconsistent just like Brown.

 

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East doesn't look weak at all to me Potential Race Winners Martin Vialle Anstie Brown Robertson McAdoo Mosiman Forkner Deegan Lopes Hammaker   I do think...

East doesn't look weak at all to me

Potential Race Winners

Martin

Vialle

Anstie

Brown

Robertson

McAdoo

Mosiman

Forkner

Deegan

Lopes

Hammaker

 

I do think Deegan is the strongest of the field, if he is a step above everyone else, it could be a snoozer, but if he didnt improve much from last year, or took a step back, we could be in for a good series.

Out of those 10, 6 of them have never won a SX but you leave off a guy who's avg finish in sx is top5 and has won a race?

Interesting take.

 

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East doesn't look weak at all to me Potential Race Winners Martin Vialle Anstie Brown Robertson McAdoo Mosiman Forkner Deegan Lopes Hammaker   I do think...

East doesn't look weak at all to me

Potential Race Winners

Martin

Vialle

Anstie

Brown

Robertson

McAdoo

Mosiman

Forkner

Deegan

Lopes

Hammaker

 

I do think Deegan is the strongest of the field, if he is a step above everyone else, it could be a snoozer, but if he didnt improve much from last year, or took a step back, we could be in for a good series.

JBlain619 wrote:
Out of those 10, 6 of them have never won a SX but you leave off a guy who's avg finish in sx is top5 and...

Out of those 10, 6 of them have never won a SX but you leave off a guy who's avg finish in sx is top5 and has won a race?

Interesting take.

 

No one is talking about martin and I think he will surprise some people

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East doesn't look weak at all to me Potential Race Winners Martin Vialle Anstie Brown Robertson McAdoo Mosiman Forkner Deegan Lopes Hammaker   I do think...

East doesn't look weak at all to me

Potential Race Winners

Martin

Vialle

Anstie

Brown

Robertson

McAdoo

Mosiman

Forkner

Deegan

Lopes

Hammaker

 

I do think Deegan is the strongest of the field, if he is a step above everyone else, it could be a snoozer, but if he didnt improve much from last year, or took a step back, we could be in for a good series.

JBlain619 wrote:
Out of those 10, 6 of them have never won a SX but you leave off a guy who's avg finish in sx is top5 and...

Out of those 10, 6 of them have never won a SX but you leave off a guy who's avg finish in sx is top5 and has won a race?

Interesting take.

 

NP301 wrote:

No one is talking about martin and I think he will surprise some people

He's referring to Hammaker

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East doesn't look weak at all to me Potential Race Winners Martin Vialle Anstie Brown Robertson McAdoo Mosiman Forkner Deegan Lopes Hammaker   I do think...

East doesn't look weak at all to me

Potential Race Winners

Martin

Vialle

Anstie

Brown

Robertson

McAdoo

Mosiman

Forkner

Deegan

Lopes

Hammaker

 

I do think Deegan is the strongest of the field, if he is a step above everyone else, it could be a snoozer, but if he didnt improve much from last year, or took a step back, we could be in for a good series.

JBlain619 wrote:
Out of those 10, 6 of them have never won a SX but you leave off a guy who's avg finish in sx is top5 and...

Out of those 10, 6 of them have never won a SX but you leave off a guy who's avg finish in sx is top5 and has won a race?

Interesting take.

 

whoops, it was accident, i'll add him.

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JBlain619 wrote:
Out of those 10, 6 of them have never won a SX but you leave off a guy who's avg finish in sx is top5 and...

Out of those 10, 6 of them have never won a SX but you leave off a guy who's avg finish in sx is top5 and has won a race?

Interesting take.

 

NP301 wrote:

No one is talking about martin and I think he will surprise some people

GrapeApe wrote:

He's referring to Hammaker

Doesn't really change my comment does it ?

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Didn't Anstie win a race last year (mud race in East Rutherford)?

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1/29/2024 7:05am Edited Date/Time 1/29/2024 7:06am
NP301 wrote:

No one is talking about martin and I think he will surprise some people

GrapeApe wrote:

He's referring to Hammaker

NP301 wrote:

Doesn't really change my comment does it ?

I agree about JMart too.  I was having this discussion with another buddy and everyone is forgetting JMart. The east IMO is much deeper. Jo wouldnt be able to come from behind as far as he's been and get into the top 4

 

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kxking wrote:

Didn't Anstie win a race last year (mud race in East Rutherford)?

He did...Totally forgot about that. 

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GrapeApe wrote:

He's referring to Hammaker

NP301 wrote:

Doesn't really change my comment does it ?

JBlain619 wrote:
I agree about JMart too.  I was having this discussion with another buddy and everyone is forgetting JMart. The east IMO is much deeper. Jo wouldnt...

I agree about JMart too.  I was having this discussion with another buddy and everyone is forgetting JMart. The east IMO is much deeper. Jo wouldnt be able to come from behind as far as he's been and get into the top 4

 

Which is ironic cause historically the west was always the more sought after region.

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kxking wrote:

Didn't Anstie win a race last year (mud race in East Rutherford)?

Yes, and it was a showdown too.

There is a lot of 'flying at the test track' talk about Max.

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lol okay... because he didn't have much experience riding outdoors before this season??

Remember Bayle (1990), Roncada (2000), Pourcel (2009 and 2010), Musquin (2015) and Ferrandis (2019 and 2020).

Vialle will be the next french rider to fight for the 250cc MX title (125cc before). If healthy after SX, of course. 

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What time does Nique Thury race?

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I think the east will be as exciting as the west is right now.

Deegan is fun to watch, reminds me of JS7 and RC style of hanging it out. Plus, he is the SMX champ, even if its seen as a monster cup style thing. He will be the top guy coming in because of those colored numbers.

Forkner needs to stop hitting the ground. He is fast and I want him to stay healthy. Really don't want another AC9 unhealthy career to happen to someone fast.

McAdoo is fast as well and I think he will be up there battling.

Max, no one is talking about him. I see a podium guy at least. I'm not sure about wins yet.

Vialle just kept knocking things down and getting better last year. I think he will surprise some people.

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McAdoo is always sneaky good at the start until the crashes take a toll on him. Would be nice to see him stay off the ground and put it all together 

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lol okay... because he didn't have much experience riding outdoors before this season??

Remember Bayle (1990), Roncada (2000), Pourcel (2009 and 2010), Musquin (2015) and Ferrandis (2019 and 2020). Vialle will be the next french rider to fight for...

Remember Bayle (1990), Roncada (2000), Pourcel (2009 and 2010), Musquin (2015) and Ferrandis (2019 and 2020).

Vialle will be the next french rider to fight for the 250cc MX title (125cc before). If healthy after SX, of course. 

What is your point?  I’m saying he should have been more of a threat this past year, 2x world champ all he’s ever ridden is outdoors and he’s finishing outside the top 5 nearly all the rounds… should have been an immediate threat for at least podiums, not a possible champion in 4 years.

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McAdoo is always sneaky good at the start until the crashes take a toll on him. Would be nice to see him stay off the ground...

McAdoo is always sneaky good at the start until the crashes take a toll on him. Would be nice to see him stay off the ground and put it all together 

He hasn’t had the pace the past 2 years, he crashes because he’s trying to match the leaders pace.

1/29/2024 1:46pm Edited Date/Time 1/29/2024 1:47pm

Over/under

I believe 5 different winners. How many yall got? That is one stacked lineup. can see a rider one week gets on the podium then following week fighting for 10th

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I thought Evan Ferry still needed to do futures to get his points for a pro license, kind of like Casey Cochran.  Neither him nor Casey...

I thought Evan Ferry still needed to do futures to get his points for a pro license, kind of like Casey Cochran.  Neither him nor Casey rode A2.

I know the original plan for Casey was to do A2 and Daytona futures then if he got the points needed, he would then join the remaining East Coast rounds.

Well AMA Rules say if you get hired by a factory team THEY (somehow) have the authority to claim you are of professional speed and capability, thus giving you a free pass to a Pro License.

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1/29/2024 2:01pm
MX Culture wrote:
The 250 East lineup is deep. Here is who I came up with and I’m sure I’m missing a few privateers as well. If you have...

The 250 East lineup is deep.

Here is who I came up with and I’m sure I’m missing a few privateers as well.

If you have someone to add, post it and I’ll add them to the list.

Who do you have for East podiums or the championship?...

 

 6   Jeremy Martin

16  Tom Vialle

33  Jalek Swoll

37  Max Anstie

38  Haiden Deegan

39  Pierce Brown

40  Dilan Schwartz

43  Seth Hammaker

48  Chance Hymas

50  Enzo Lopes

58  Cullin Park

59  Daxton Bennick

60  Lorenzo Lacrucio

61  Stilez Robertson

63  Cameron McAdoo

64  Ausin Forkner

65  Henry Miller

69  Coty Schock

75  Marshall Weltin

76  Michael Mosiman ??

77  Preston Kilroy

80  Michael Hicks

82  Mitchell Harrison

83  Guillem Farres

86  Luca Marsalisi

89  Luke Neese

90  Hardy Munoz

93  Bryce Shelly

99  Jett Reynolds

242  Grant Hoffman

511  Nick Romano

602  Gage Linville

751  Evan Ferry ??

900  Keegan Rowley

964 Nique Thury

 

What is Thury doing on that list? He is not even making Mains at the German SX series… The dude is a joke 

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1/29/2024 2:40pm
What is your point?  I’m saying he should have been more of a threat this past year, 2x world champ all he’s ever ridden is outdoors...

What is your point?  I’m saying he should have been more of a threat this past year, 2x world champ all he’s ever ridden is outdoors and he’s finishing outside the top 5 nearly all the rounds… should have been an immediate threat for at least podiums, not a possible champion in 4 years.

We'll see in a few months...He will be on the mix this time.

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