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Ok yeah they don't lol
I WiLl sToP RiDiNg If ELeCtRiC tAKeS OvEr , quit whining Most of you can’t draw a straight line with a ruler much less ride a dirtbike , most of you are bench racers who go out and put clamps and do a “ revalve” and post pics of your bike in the back of the truck … starks are cool! Not as cool as gas bikes but still cool… I know I can’t form a complete sentence but I know I can ride a dirtbike faster than you education is good but dirtbikes are gooder… get the carrots out of your ears ppl!!!!!!!!
Since you seem to enjoy confusing the term 'fear', please tell us why you feel KTM is so 'afraid'? Oh wait, you also used the term 'inferior', might as well explain that one too. You can't do it without ignoring one major difference that takes all of the fun out of your hot-air inflated opinion.
Your soapbox was a little too high to read the context of my post above. And most people would be embracing your ideas and comments if you were not acting as if it was some sort of mandated take-over, it makes you look still drunk on Covid. Us freedum loving folks that embrace muh rights and muh guns, also happen to like choices, that should not be so hard to understand. Pretty much all of us would love to have a 2 stroke, a 4 stroke, and an e-bike for variety, all different bikes with different characteristics and power for whatever we feel like on that day, or what track we go to - choices. When you are pulling your own string as if the days of no choices are here, and everything but is inferior, you do not at all sound like a fan of our sport and toys we love, you sound like a politically polluted clown.
What are you going to charge your "toaster" with in the field? Solar panels? The track is gonna supply 100+ fast charging stations?
Electric does not work for off-roaders. DPs, Enduros, desert riders etc etc.. what effect do you think the loss of those sales will do to the sport.
It's just simply amazing to see people who willingly board those cattle rail cars to their own doom.
Enjoy your 40 minute "green" chain-slapping racket ride.
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"Also Aussies don’t connect e bikes to ‘they are takin ma gurnnns, e bikes are communism’ "
Oh the irony coming from someone who already had their guns taken.
/me thinks he may have been the one taking them
There was a migration from lighter faster two stokes to the four strokes because we were not told the truth about two strokes being banned by the EPA and CARB. We are still waiting for that to happen 20+ years later.
Now you gone and spoiled everything.
Much like when ice replaced the horse...there were winners and losers. I doubt there's many of us that could go back to hay burners. When the weight and battery life get fixed... electric will be the future. You don't have to like it...just as the blacksmith didn't....but progress marches on.
I honestly don't know who thought the rear brake being handlebar operated was a good idea. Kudos for Alex not killing himself on that goofy ass set-up.
As soon as the Honda e-bike hits the showroom...well...you can figure it out.
Zacka, with all due respect, your assessment of the USA is incorrect. Some of the stereotypes are hilarious though.
If you ever travel to Texas, let me know. Y’all are welcome at my house. I’ll fire up the smoker.
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I just hope the AMA watched this. Alex said he wasn't completely comfortable on that bike and mentioned some changes he'd like to make.
Still was 2 seconds a lap faster than on his personal 350.
For reference 2 seconds a lap at Millville moto 2 would've got Chase Sexton the Win, and brought AP and DF into a fight with Jett for podium positions.
What is inherently wrong with handlebar rear brake? People ride mountain bikes on sorts of gnarly technical trails with handlebar brakes.
Only going by what I hear/read the problem is the lever/MS combo does not offer good feel/leverage compared to the pedal/rear MC. A dedicated system is required to bring it up to standards.
As soon as Honda pushes their E bike you will see a different perspective by the AMA and the rest.
Just like Honda pushed for the Chicks racing the Nationals with Fiolek when she was a Honda factory type rider.
Any thoughts?
The truth is: no way this guy was letting a random red neck ride his bike. I walked up to him like I knew the guy my whole life and had a nice bro down session. I listened to Metallica and Alice in Chains on the way home and my smoking hot GF is making me chicken as I type this.
And I got shit whipped into a berm today.
That's just BS. Anytime there are talks of a certain firearm being restricted, sales boom for it. If the 4 strokes were not also easier to ride faster, took less maintanance and Pros were winning on them You might have more of an argument . But they were also better bikes for most people than 2 strokes. Just like electric will be. And alot like the 2 and 4 stroke , woods and off road guys who need range and have less of a problem with noise, will stay on ICE bikes like how many are still on 2 strokes now.
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Considering all the R&D went into 4 strokes for the last 20 years I think they held up pretty well.
Not sure but probably, we are building power stations some green sourced energy others are diesel generators in some of the most remote areas in the world to allow to circumnavigate australia in a e vehicle. I think thats pretty cool, and glad my tax dollars are going to that rather than im sure a lot of other things... Funding E vehicle infrastructure is a tax expenditure I support.
Although from my admittedly middling amount of research Oil, Gas and coal get far more tax subsidies (handouts) than almost any other non publicly run industry, and we pay some the highest petrol prices and energy costs in the world.
However we do also have great Solar subsidies for individual homes but they a middling compared to the fossil fuel subsidies.
Our biggest issue is every time a right wing politician is in power (the last decade) they erode the social services, underfund social spending and gives tax cuts to the rich which has meants cost of living has skyrocketted and wealth innequality is growing and we do not want the americanised system of haves and have nots and rugged individualism for the poor and corporate welfare for the rich. We want and need strong unions across the board so the power remains in the hands of the people.
None of these issues, or Americas issues, have anything at all to do with E vehicles or E vehicle infrastructure....
Ringing endorsement from an un biased pro level rider on a pro level track. "Game Changer"
I have a friend in Idaho that took delivery a few weeks ago..rides and races Husky and KTM..he has the same thoughts.
I can't wait to ride one.
Not just Alex, and not just your friend, but every review I've ever watched, read, or heard about has said the Varg is remarkably good. Several testers mentioned that getting back on a 450 is a disappointment.
I'm not in this for the greenie feel-goods; I'm in this to ride a better bike. If that's electric, then hell yeah. I can't wait to ride one, either.
I think it's probably the opposite. The feel/response is probably too direct. Since it's on a lever, dudes are brain-trained trying to modulate the rear like they do with the front, when they should be just grabbing the shit out of the lever full force like they stomp the shit out of a pedal with their boot, if that's the response they want.
I feel a 280mm rotor and 2/4 piston caliper might give the feel/power needed for a hand rear brake?
My biggest takeaways
1) Battery usage in the hands of a pro rider. SV is not ready for outdoors let alone supercross, even at the modest 50%hp setting. Full 80hp drains battery even faster with less available ride time.
2) In-air characteristic and lack of rear brake (which wasn't on the bike as tested but can be added when ordering). Blip throttle, bike stands up.
3) Pro rider was faster and looked smoother on the SV vs a known and familiar 4-stroke.
Battery is the biggest problem with these bikes, at least for wider adoption at a pro level. I don't even think that's a issue with the SV, more due to limitations of current battery tech. In time that should come around, but as of 2023/24, it's a major limiting factor for pro use.
What time does Deegan race? Do we race him when it's time?
I've used a LHRB since 2003 on my CRE500.
Leg damage means I can't use a rear foot lever well. I ran a double tipped lever set up for many years before that, with one tip high for when standing, the other low for sitting.
When I read / hear people saying their LHRB doesn't have much power, I wonder as to their set up. I can lock the rear wheel at any time, with minimal, 1 finger effort. even on the tar, with a sticky as s**t Michelin X Trial rear tyre. All the while having superb brake control, I just find it hard to see why they have problems, though, from Martins words heard, perhaps Stark haven't got it perfect, yet . Even with an MTB MC - though I made longer levers for it - I had great brakes, then the Brembo set up I fitted, has been perfect.
Pictures of both set ups I've used for 20 years now :
Old Hayes Mag set up, with a longer lever I machined up:
Brembo Set up:
And note, that I have a mini Clutch lever still, that I use often at the same time as the brake - if you make an effort, you can do more that just 'chew gum', you can walk, as well .............
The only problem I have, is without a rear brake pedal, if I'm on a really steep hill, and I've taken my goggles off. It can be a bit 'iffy' to get them back up on my fizzog without rolling backwards without have a foot brake. Happened once, and once only, on a scary hill - crashing backwards is bloody frightening, and bloody Nasty.....
It certainly does take time to get used to a LHRB - like anything different, really. SO many people try something 'different', and don't take the time to 'learn it', and then bitch and whine about it.
Just as many will when they try an E Bike for the first / first few times. And, dismiss it / them. It's bloody different. - you just have to make an effort, to learn a new 'thing'. But, it seems many are incapable of even trying.
Something that size and with multiple pistons would be completely unnecessary, I feel.
I had plenty of power and feel with my std 220 disc. With even full metal pads, by the way.
I later got a 240 disc with a CR250 (00/01?) IMS caliper carrier with integral Shark Fin. I ride in, very, Very rocky terrain, and bend / damage discs quite often, so that's the reason for the carrier, not the bigger disc.
To fit the smaller 500 axle, I just had to machine up a top hat spacer that I pressed into the carrier . I fitted the 240 when I did my PDS conversion to my 500, as I got it with the swingarm / subframe and airbox shell I bought from a mate from the USA, so I didn't have to alter the std parts, and could put it all back to standard when it becomes (never, I hope) a Garage Queen, or it gets sold after I cark it - CRE500s go for BIG money now, it should pay for my funeral and a decent wake
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With the 240, I actually had a bit of difficulty with it being Too strong, until I adapted to it.
Yeah, my neighbour just bought one to mow his early. We are in North Queensland and it gets hot quick!
If eMX bikes start running faster times in the amateur scene and local pros are faster or competing with factory riders in open practices you will see a massive change.
It’s simple, if more people buy eMX bikes what do you think the manufacturers are going to sell?
* Let’s not forget the biggest advantage of a Stark. You can buy it and set it for your wife to ride. 😱
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