Off season gripe, 3 objects in space should never be referred to as 4

11/22/2023 8:52pm
mx691 wrote:
By the way, where is the third clamp of the ”tripleclamps”..?               

By the way, where is the third clamp of the ”tripleclamps”..? Grinning

 

Let me help you count!

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11/22/2023 9:18pm
mx691 wrote:
By the way, where is the third clamp of the ”tripleclamps”..?               

By the way, where is the third clamp of the ”tripleclamps”..? Grinning

 

Let me help you count!

Let me help you count!

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We are now entering the twillight zone… where sometimes a triple is called a quad Grinning

And a tripleclamp sometimes has… 2 clamps!?

(Just messing around)

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11/22/2023 9:25pm Edited Date/Time 11/22/2023 9:28pm

It all depends on the length. Sometimes there are sections where a tabletop and two singles are jumped but the distance appears to be more of a triple than a quad. These type of sections are often done by most riders and there doesn't seem to be as much difficulty involved in clearing the obstacle.

At the same time, there are other sections that involve a tabletop and two singles that are jumped but the distance is greater. These type of sections are often done by only the top few riders and when doing so, there appears to be much more effort, risk, and wow factor.

So I think both are true, some sections involving a table and two singles could be considered a triple or quad all depending on the difficulty and distance.

However, If you had to be scientific about it, a table top can be jumped from the takeoff to the landing just like two singles. If two singles are considered a double, a table top would have to fall in the same category. Add two more singles to that, and technically I believe you would have to call it a quad.

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11/22/2023 10:03pm Edited Date/Time 11/23/2023 4:41am
mx691 wrote:
By the way, where is the third clamp of the ”tripleclamps”..?               

By the way, where is the third clamp of the ”tripleclamps”..? Grinning

 

Let me help you count!

Let me help you count!

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mx691 wrote:
We are now entering the twillight zone… where sometimes a triple is called a quad  And a tripleclamp sometimes has… 2 clamps!? (Just messing around)  

We are now entering the twillight zone… where sometimes a triple is called a quad Grinning

And a tripleclamp sometimes has… 2 clamps!?

(Just messing around)

IMG 8611 0

 

In your pic there and going by the logic of amount of clampy dealy's, not amount of holes (both fork legs and the stem/steerer tube) I guess the bar mount is a clamp of sorts? It's certainly clamping.

Is this as convoluted as the quad/triple thing yet?

I'm just gonna go with what DV says, as usual, I'll never quad anything so the fast guys can call things whatever they see fit.

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11/22/2023 10:16pm

If your boots are freshly cleaned, sprocket bolts torqued and you seat bounce the up ramp, every jump is a quad.

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11/22/2023 11:25pm
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When you jump a tabletop over two singles, two singles over a table, or a single-table-single combo, it is literally not a quad. These can all...

When you jump a tabletop over two singles, two singles over a table, or a single-table-single combo, it is literally not a quad. These can all be referred to as triple over the table in each case, and have been time and time again.

 

It's just not how language works, either. Do you get shitty with people who refer to a single item of clothing as a PAIR of jeans? How do you feel when people refer to a single object in space as a PAIR of scissors?

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11/22/2023 11:29pm
fgb729 wrote:
When you jump a tabletop over two singles, two singles over a table, or a single-table-single combo, it is literally not a quad. These can all...

When you jump a tabletop over two singles, two singles over a table, or a single-table-single combo, it is literally not a quad. These can all be referred to as triple over the table in each case, and have been time and time again.

 

It's just not how language works, either. Do you get shitty with people who refer to a single item of clothing as a PAIR of jeans...

It's just not how language works, either. Do you get shitty with people who refer to a single item of clothing as a PAIR of jeans? How do you feel when people refer to a single object in space as a PAIR of scissors?

Two legs, two blades…..

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11/23/2023 4:42am
fgb729 wrote:
When you jump a tabletop over two singles, two singles over a table, or a single-table-single combo, it is literally not a quad. These can all...

When you jump a tabletop over two singles, two singles over a table, or a single-table-single combo, it is literally not a quad. These can all be referred to as triple over the table in each case, and have been time and time again.

 

It's just not how language works, either. Do you get shitty with people who refer to a single item of clothing as a PAIR of jeans...

It's just not how language works, either. Do you get shitty with people who refer to a single item of clothing as a PAIR of jeans? How do you feel when people refer to a single object in space as a PAIR of scissors?

CPR wrote:

Two legs, two blades…..

What about the zipper hole to pee out of, jeans are a triple not a double

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11/23/2023 8:06am
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11/23/2023 8:06am

If you land separately from the bike, is that a double?

That is gold right there !!

11/23/2023 10:37am

The hell with it...

(Takes looong pull from the bottle, drag from a cigarette, clears throat...)

What about a single to table?

 

I'll get my coat...

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11/23/2023 11:20am

The Arroyo (vet, REM, etc) track at GH has a table to single at the finish and EVERYONE calls it a triple if someone sends it. Why? Becuase that's what it is.

Thats all from me. I've seen this argument enough.

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11/23/2023 11:34am

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11/23/2023 11:49am

So single, single, onto the table is a triple and single, single, onto the landing of the tabletop is a quad? I can’t help but wonder why we’re applying these numerical terms in this way in these cases. Perhaps by doing so as if we’re making something akin to what philosophers refer to as a category error. 

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In the interest of illuminating my previous post, from Wikipedia:

"A category mistake (or category errorcategorical mistake, or mistake of category), is a semantic or ontological error in which things belonging to a particular category are presented as if they belong to a different category,[1] or, alternatively, a property is ascribed to a thing that could not possibly have that property."

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11/23/2023 11:58am
mx691 wrote:
We are now entering the twillight zone… where sometimes a triple is called a quad  And a tripleclamp sometimes has… 2 clamps!? (Just messing around)  

We are now entering the twillight zone… where sometimes a triple is called a quad Grinning

And a tripleclamp sometimes has… 2 clamps!?

(Just messing around)

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I count 4 

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11/23/2023 12:35pm
fgb729 wrote:
When you jump a tabletop over two singles, two singles over a table, or a single-table-single combo, it is literally not a quad. These can all...

When you jump a tabletop over two singles, two singles over a table, or a single-table-single combo, it is literally not a quad. These can all be referred to as triple over the table in each case, and have been time and time again.

 

like literally nobody cares bro.........

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11/23/2023 12:37pm
It's just not how language works, either. Do you get shitty with people who refer to a single item of clothing as a PAIR of jeans...

It's just not how language works, either. Do you get shitty with people who refer to a single item of clothing as a PAIR of jeans? How do you feel when people refer to a single object in space as a PAIR of scissors?

CPR wrote:

Two legs, two blades…..

Richy wrote:

What about the zipper hole to pee out of, jeans are a triple not a double

Well if we’re counting openings; waist, two legs and zipper- quad!…..I’m glad there’s some racing this weekend 😂

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11/23/2023 12:38pm
fgb729 wrote:
When you jump a tabletop over two singles, two singles over a table, or a single-table-single combo, it is literally not a quad. These can all...

When you jump a tabletop over two singles, two singles over a table, or a single-table-single combo, it is literally not a quad. These can all be referred to as triple over the table in each case, and have been time and time again.

 

And the awe inspiring Supercross triple which is the exact same jump every weekend and  the guys could clear in first gear with a 5 foot run. I’d rather see a 65 foot double with a different takeoff and landing each week. 

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11/24/2023 4:37am Edited Date/Time 11/24/2023 4:37am

Still doesn't change the fact that 3 mounds of dirt = triple.

4 mounds of dirt = quad.

A tabletop is NOT a double. 1 mound. With a flat top. Single. Get it?

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11/24/2023 8:07am

I always looked at per the number of jump peaks vs distance. To me it's always been single 1 peak single 2nd peak 3rd peak = table = one jump = less risk = triple. 

Now if the table was dug out in the middle and had another peak you had to clear. Instead of being able to land on the flat. Then it might be considered more of a quad. 

4 separate peaks in a row you must clear = a quad. Where you can't come up short on the landing or you'll case into a jump face peak. 

Two singles onto or over a table is just a triple of longer distance. With less risk because you can land on the flat. 

You wouldn't call two tables in a row a quad. If you cleared both it just be a distance jump you wouldn't call it a quad. 

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11/24/2023 8:37am

When you clear a dragons back from take off to landing, because there is several faces of the jump you could land on, it's a sextuplet every time./s

Count the obstacles. If you hit a triple then you make the final jump in the triple a table top and still clear all 3 mounds of dirt, it doesn't magically turn into a quad.

It's still a triple. You cleared 3 mounds of dirt.

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11/24/2023 1:47pm

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11/24/2023 2:55pm
fgb729 wrote:
When you jump a tabletop over two singles, two singles over a table, or a single-table-single combo, it is literally not a quad. These can all...

When you jump a tabletop over two singles, two singles over a table, or a single-table-single combo, it is literally not a quad. These can all be referred to as triple over the table in each case, and have been time and time again.

 

MC and RC beg to differ, sorry about your luck

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11/24/2023 2:56pm
fgb729 wrote:
When you jump a tabletop over two singles, two singles over a table, or a single-table-single combo, it is literally not a quad. These can all...

When you jump a tabletop over two singles, two singles over a table, or a single-table-single combo, it is literally not a quad. These can all be referred to as triple over the table in each case, and have been time and time again.

 

MC and RC beg to differ, sorry about your luck

I don't know about MC, but RC calls it a triple.

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11/25/2023 5:47am

2+1+1= 3 (objects in space) right?

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11/26/2023 9:45am

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11/27/2023 3:11pm

Two singles and a tabletop. You can triple ONTO the tabletop, or triple OVER the tabletop. You can never, ever, under any circumstance, "quad" what is only three obstacles. Anyone who says otherwise is flat wrong. 

Those of us who lived through the days when double-jumping things was a relatively new concept also got to see triples come into being in supercross. There was a whole language which developed around this technique. "I doubled this;" "he tripled that." The phrases might include, "triple," "big triple," or "long triple," but it's never a "quadruple jump" unless there are 4 lips to jump from. 

Now, in the case of the two singles and a tabletop above, if the tabletop has a bump or lip at the end or in the middle, I'd call that a quad. 

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11/27/2023 3:16pm

They're not in space. They're on the ground.

D'uh.

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11/27/2023 3:20pm Edited Date/Time 11/27/2023 3:22pm

number of mounds. Simple. Whether they’re long, short, booters, chillers, floaters, kickers, or any other term, if there are not 4 mounds (1st used as a take off and a separate 4th as a landing) then it ain’t no quad. 

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