Should the AMA Outdoor National come back to Glen Helen?

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10/31/2023 10:09am Edited Date/Time 10/31/2023 10:26am
OW38B wrote:

Home boy you seem distraught.......take some Midol.

Sully wrote:
I need Midol because I understand that as long as Bud Feldkamp owns GH and Davey & Rita Coombs own MX Sports, Glen Helen isn't getting...

I need Midol because I understand that as long as Bud Feldkamp owns GH and Davey & Rita Coombs own MX Sports, Glen Helen isn't getting a national? Weird flex, champ. But hey, you do you...

Boomslang wrote:

Spot on Sully, hopefully people read your reply and let it sink in.....then, just maybe, we will avoid another 50 threads about Glen Helen coming back.

So now we have to get approval from Sully and Boomerslang to discuss things on a discussion forum? We feel so fortunate to have you two as the arbitrators of all things able to be discussed in here.

Good Lord!

Do not click and then post in the thread if you have hysterics about the topic.......a bunch of danm women in here, I swear.

 

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Sully wrote:
I need Midol because I understand that as long as Bud Feldkamp owns GH and Davey & Rita Coombs own MX Sports, Glen Helen isn't getting...

I need Midol because I understand that as long as Bud Feldkamp owns GH and Davey & Rita Coombs own MX Sports, Glen Helen isn't getting a national? Weird flex, champ. But hey, you do you...

Boomslang wrote:

Spot on Sully, hopefully people read your reply and let it sink in.....then, just maybe, we will avoid another 50 threads about Glen Helen coming back.

OW38B wrote:
So now we have to get approval from Sully and Boomerslang to discuss things on a discussion forum? We feel so fortunate to have you two...

So now we have to get approval from Sully and Boomerslang to discuss things on a discussion forum? We feel so fortunate to have you two as the arbitrators of all things able to be discussed in here.

Good Lord!

Do not click and then post in the thread if you have hysterics about the topic.......a bunch of danm women in here, I swear.

 

Wipe the sand out of your vag. It's a stupid topic that's been beat to death, and no matter how many "wouldn't it be cool" head in the clouds posts are made on Vital, the two parties who could make it happen won't, because they don't get along.  

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Boomslang wrote:

Spot on Sully, hopefully people read your reply and let it sink in.....then, just maybe, we will avoid another 50 threads about Glen Helen coming back.

OW38B wrote:
So now we have to get approval from Sully and Boomerslang to discuss things on a discussion forum? We feel so fortunate to have you two...

So now we have to get approval from Sully and Boomerslang to discuss things on a discussion forum? We feel so fortunate to have you two as the arbitrators of all things able to be discussed in here.

Good Lord!

Do not click and then post in the thread if you have hysterics about the topic.......a bunch of danm women in here, I swear.

 

Sully wrote:
Wipe the sand out of your vag. It's a stupid topic that's been beat to death, and no matter how many "wouldn't it be cool" head...

Wipe the sand out of your vag. It's a stupid topic that's been beat to death, and no matter how many "wouldn't it be cool" head in the clouds posts are made on Vital, the two parties who could make it happen won't, because they don't get along.  

Every day is a new day and sometimes people change, nothing wrong with that. 
 

C’mon DC, c’mon Bud, put down the axes, take one on the chin and make it happen, again!

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AMA National? GH has been there and done that. Quite well with unique track designs and epic battles (over the course of many years, I might add).

 

MXdN on the other hand...

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CRC245:   MXDN is a good idea too.   Love to see GH on the Nat's roster, 1 of the best tracks on the circuit.   

 

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ATKpilot99 wrote:

People mentioning Steel City and Kenworthy , do those tracks even exist anymore ?

early wrote:
Steel City was shut down because it was on the hillside above the creek that feeds a drinking water reservoir. 

Steel City was shut down because it was on the hillside above the creek that feeds a drinking water reservoir. Screenshot 20231031 115439 Google Earth

Find other drinking water 

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Boomslang wrote:

Spot on Sully, hopefully people read your reply and let it sink in.....then, just maybe, we will avoid another 50 threads about Glen Helen coming back.

OW38B wrote:
So now we have to get approval from Sully and Boomerslang to discuss things on a discussion forum? We feel so fortunate to have you two...

So now we have to get approval from Sully and Boomerslang to discuss things on a discussion forum? We feel so fortunate to have you two as the arbitrators of all things able to be discussed in here.

Good Lord!

Do not click and then post in the thread if you have hysterics about the topic.......a bunch of danm women in here, I swear.

 

Sully wrote:
Wipe the sand out of your vag. It's a stupid topic that's been beat to death, and no matter how many "wouldn't it be cool" head...

Wipe the sand out of your vag. It's a stupid topic that's been beat to death, and no matter how many "wouldn't it be cool" head in the clouds posts are made on Vital, the two parties who could make it happen won't, because they don't get along.  

I see, this Sully joker gets to determine what is a stupid topic or not?

If posters on here want to talk about this topic let them. If you do not like the topic do not read the thread.....and for sure do not post in said thread.

 

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11/1/2023 4:17am
OW38B wrote:
So now we have to get approval from Sully and Boomerslang to discuss things on a discussion forum? We feel so fortunate to have you two...

So now we have to get approval from Sully and Boomerslang to discuss things on a discussion forum? We feel so fortunate to have you two as the arbitrators of all things able to be discussed in here.

Good Lord!

Do not click and then post in the thread if you have hysterics about the topic.......a bunch of danm women in here, I swear.

 

Sully wrote:
Wipe the sand out of your vag. It's a stupid topic that's been beat to death, and no matter how many "wouldn't it be cool" head...

Wipe the sand out of your vag. It's a stupid topic that's been beat to death, and no matter how many "wouldn't it be cool" head in the clouds posts are made on Vital, the two parties who could make it happen won't, because they don't get along.  

OW38B wrote:
I see, this Sully joker gets to determine what is a stupid topic or not? If posters on here want to talk about this topic let...

I see, this Sully joker gets to determine what is a stupid topic or not?

If posters on here want to talk about this topic let them. If you do not like the topic do not read the thread.....and for sure do not post in said thread.

 

Without doubt folk are free to discuss whatever they want to. 

My chirp was directed at the fact that there are probably 20 existing threads on the same topic that the OP could have resurrected if he had done a search...but yeah, we are to lazy (myself included) to do a search. 

No harm intended to the OP...twas just a friendly dig.

I do agree that Glen Helen needs to be back on the Calender. Sadly the two parties cannot work together.

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OW38B wrote:
So now we have to get approval from Sully and Boomerslang to discuss things on a discussion forum? We feel so fortunate to have you two...

So now we have to get approval from Sully and Boomerslang to discuss things on a discussion forum? We feel so fortunate to have you two as the arbitrators of all things able to be discussed in here.

Good Lord!

Do not click and then post in the thread if you have hysterics about the topic.......a bunch of danm women in here, I swear.

 

Sully wrote:
Wipe the sand out of your vag. It's a stupid topic that's been beat to death, and no matter how many "wouldn't it be cool" head...

Wipe the sand out of your vag. It's a stupid topic that's been beat to death, and no matter how many "wouldn't it be cool" head in the clouds posts are made on Vital, the two parties who could make it happen won't, because they don't get along.  

OW38B wrote:
I see, this Sully joker gets to determine what is a stupid topic or not? If posters on here want to talk about this topic let...

I see, this Sully joker gets to determine what is a stupid topic or not?

If posters on here want to talk about this topic let them. If you do not like the topic do not read the thread.....and for sure do not post in said thread.

 

You really seem butthurt by my opinion.

For what it's worth, I'd love to see GH back on the schedule, I just think these repeated "wouldn't it be cool if" threads are silly. That being said, you don't get to determine what my opinion is, nor where I share it, so move along. Have the best day ever.

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11/1/2023 5:21am

If they cannot come to terms with the powers that be behind the AMA Nats, how about an MXGP or MXDN bid? 

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YES!!!!

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plowboy wrote:

Of course I want to see GH back but do the fans have enough clout to influence either side?

No, fans are not a com[ponent of where a National is held. They'd (not saying who "They" are) would have a National in a Costco parking lot if the promoter paid the fee. IMO. Anyway the Costco parking lot would be smoother and make "better racing" for Television.

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I'm bias because I'm on the east coast, but I'd rather see Gatorback return...  and do it the week before/after the Daytona SX.  

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11/1/2023 8:52am

If they cannot come to terms with the powers that be behind the AMA Nats, how about an MXGP or MXDN bid? 

They had a gp , and even said a mxdn was coming ,  but then it all just went away ,  almost like bud fell out with youth stream too 

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Boomslang wrote:

That is so fucking sad. I can't believe it. What happened that we lost such an iconic venue?

They never owned the land. It was leased and the lease expired. I’m sure somebody else remembers the details better than me but from what I remember Honda of Houston had the lease and was running it but lost interest and sold the remainder of the lease to somebody else. That person didn’t run things very well so a few years later when the lease expired, the owner of the land chose to just turn the track into a hunting lease which is what the rest of the land always was anyways. 
 

Both Whitney and Mossier Valley were absolute treasures here in Texas that got taken away from us. 

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As I recall, it was time for Glen Helen to renew their contract. MX Sports came to them with the exact same contract and, for whatever reason, GH said no.

Not sure why the same contract was okay in 2018, but not 2019.

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plowboy wrote:

Of course I want to see GH back but do the fans have enough clout to influence either side?

No, fans are not a com[ponent of where a National is held. They'd (not saying who "They" are) would have a National in a Costco parking...

No, fans are not a com[ponent of where a National is held. They'd (not saying who "They" are) would have a National in a Costco parking lot if the promoter paid the fee. IMO. Anyway the Costco parking lot would be smoother and make "better racing" for Television.

add sand to it as well

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Sully wrote:
Wipe the sand out of your vag. It's a stupid topic that's been beat to death, and no matter how many "wouldn't it be cool" head...

Wipe the sand out of your vag. It's a stupid topic that's been beat to death, and no matter how many "wouldn't it be cool" head in the clouds posts are made on Vital, the two parties who could make it happen won't, because they don't get along.  

OW38B wrote:
I see, this Sully joker gets to determine what is a stupid topic or not? If posters on here want to talk about this topic let...

I see, this Sully joker gets to determine what is a stupid topic or not?

If posters on here want to talk about this topic let them. If you do not like the topic do not read the thread.....and for sure do not post in said thread.

 

Boomslang wrote:
Without doubt folk are free to discuss whatever they want to.  My chirp was directed at the fact that there are probably 20 existing threads on...

Without doubt folk are free to discuss whatever they want to. 

My chirp was directed at the fact that there are probably 20 existing threads on the same topic that the OP could have resurrected if he had done a search...but yeah, we are to lazy (myself included) to do a search. 

No harm intended to the OP...twas just a friendly dig.

I do agree that Glen Helen needs to be back on the Calender. Sadly the two parties cannot work together.

Then you get the people complaining that you are digging up an old thread.

My whole point is with all the threads in this joint that I just roll my eyes at, I think it is no secret that a good amount of guys here on the VitalMx are SoCal guys and Glen Helen is popular track in SoCal, so it is going to have more total interest than "Chicken Licks Raceway in Podunk USA.

Fair enough?

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Sully wrote:
Wipe the sand out of your vag. It's a stupid topic that's been beat to death, and no matter how many "wouldn't it be cool" head...

Wipe the sand out of your vag. It's a stupid topic that's been beat to death, and no matter how many "wouldn't it be cool" head in the clouds posts are made on Vital, the two parties who could make it happen won't, because they don't get along.  

OW38B wrote:
I see, this Sully joker gets to determine what is a stupid topic or not? If posters on here want to talk about this topic let...

I see, this Sully joker gets to determine what is a stupid topic or not?

If posters on here want to talk about this topic let them. If you do not like the topic do not read the thread.....and for sure do not post in said thread.

 

Sully wrote:
You really seem butthurt by my opinion. For what it's worth, I'd love to see GH back on the schedule, I just think these repeated "wouldn't...

You really seem butthurt by my opinion.

For what it's worth, I'd love to see GH back on the schedule, I just think these repeated "wouldn't it be cool if" threads are silly. That being said, you don't get to determine what my opinion is, nor where I share it, so move along. Have the best day ever.

LOL, sorry I do not get butthurt or even upset by anyone here in VitalMx.

Maybe I can be more lucent on my perspective on this discussion. I'm not a big fan of any moto discussion having a passively aggressive undertone post in them. 

Sully, FTE, Great Ape and Boomslang are ALL long time, well respected posters in here and I would much rather read their well thought out posts on the subject, than a dismissive post on a thread.

Thank you.

Oh-Dub

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Maybe there has been some inner party discussions. Stranger things happen in these days.

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ATKpilot99 wrote:

People mentioning Steel City and Kenworthy , do those tracks even exist anymore ?

early wrote:
Steel City was shut down because it was on the hillside above the creek that feeds a drinking water reservoir. 

Steel City was shut down because it was on the hillside above the creek that feeds a drinking water reservoir. Screenshot 20231031 115439 Google Earth

cadedutt wrote:

Find other drinking water 

Peak entitlement 

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If they cannot come to terms with the powers that be behind the AMA Nats, how about an MXGP or MXDN bid? 

Yes, make it happen. Would love to go to Cali and watch MXDN.

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ATKpilot99 wrote:

People mentioning Steel City and Kenworthy , do those tracks even exist anymore ?

early wrote:
Steel City was shut down because it was on the hillside above the creek that feeds a drinking water reservoir. 

Steel City was shut down because it was on the hillside above the creek that feeds a drinking water reservoir. Screenshot 20231031 115439 Google Earth

cadedutt wrote:

Find other drinking water 

Drinking water is overrated, their priorities are clearly screwed up. 

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Of course yes, I have a sense it will. Who knows?

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...and yet here we have MXSports and Feld coming together with SX, MX and SMX.

Never say never.

 

It should be on the Nationals circuit....damn shame it's not.    

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They had some discussion last week on PulpMx about this thread and the RV2/Glen Helen thread. 

Some interesting thoughts on this..........Unsure

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Sully wrote:
Wipe the sand out of your vag. It's a stupid topic that's been beat to death, and no matter how many "wouldn't it be cool" head...

Wipe the sand out of your vag. It's a stupid topic that's been beat to death, and no matter how many "wouldn't it be cool" head in the clouds posts are made on Vital, the two parties who could make it happen won't, because they don't get along.  

OW38B wrote:
I see, this Sully joker gets to determine what is a stupid topic or not? If posters on here want to talk about this topic let...

I see, this Sully joker gets to determine what is a stupid topic or not?

If posters on here want to talk about this topic let them. If you do not like the topic do not read the thread.....and for sure do not post in said thread.

 

Sully wrote:
You really seem butthurt by my opinion. For what it's worth, I'd love to see GH back on the schedule, I just think these repeated "wouldn't...

You really seem butthurt by my opinion.

For what it's worth, I'd love to see GH back on the schedule, I just think these repeated "wouldn't it be cool if" threads are silly. That being said, you don't get to determine what my opinion is, nor where I share it, so move along. Have the best day ever.

Sully=Bud & OW38B=Davey

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bradnelson wrote:
As I recall, it was time for Glen Helen to renew their contract. MX Sports came to them with the exact same contract and, for whatever...

As I recall, it was time for Glen Helen to renew their contract. MX Sports came to them with the exact same contract and, for whatever reason, GH said no.

Not sure why the same contract was okay in 2018, but not 2019.

Davey and MX sports wanted glen Helen to make facility improvements bud said he would only make those silly improvements if he could spread the cost out over a number of years and he wanted a long-term contract MX sports said they would not give him a long-term contract so bud told them to pound sand. plus, they hate each other.

 

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bradnelson wrote:
As I recall, it was time for Glen Helen to renew their contract. MX Sports came to them with the exact same contract and, for whatever...

As I recall, it was time for Glen Helen to renew their contract. MX Sports came to them with the exact same contract and, for whatever reason, GH said no.

Not sure why the same contract was okay in 2018, but not 2019.

K9midas wrote:
Davey and MX sports wanted glen Helen to make facility improvements bud said he would only make those silly improvements if he could spread the cost...

Davey and MX sports wanted glen Helen to make facility improvements bud said he would only make those silly improvements if he could spread the cost out over a number of years and he wanted a long-term contract MX sports said they would not give him a long-term contract so bud told them to pound sand. plus, they hate each other.

 

Pardon the mistakes in my posts I'm using voice to text cause I'm on an amazon fire stick

 

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Obviously, YES, and shit-can Pala while you are at it. Better yet, cancel Pala twice.

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