How will Trey and the Electric Honda do at Saitama?

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Canard has landed in Japan! How will and the Electric Honda do?

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How will Trey and the Electric Honda do at Saitama?

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10/27/2023 12:12pm

Well its Honda. They have an idea of what it takes to win a race.  They have had a great year , winning in the US. I am going to guess that if they are bringing out an electric bike, and having Trey ride it. They are going there to win. And show that they are farther ahead in developing an EMX bike than people think they are. 

 

I'm more excited to hear some specs on it and perhaps get some insight into what the power limits may be for rules regarding mixed electric and gas racing. I would think that Honda might have some idea of what will be required or allowed since they will play a part in making the rules.  I hope that they put out some info on the motor and battery .  

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10/27/2023 12:40pm

Are there any riders racing that series close to Trey's level?

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10/27/2023 1:16pm

I like Trey, but his track record speaks for itself. If he doesn't crash he'll probably do pretty good. But if he wads up, he's breaking a femur for the 3rd time..

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10/27/2023 1:42pm
Rosso391 wrote:
I like Trey, but his track record speaks for itself. If he doesn't crash he'll probably do pretty good. But if he wads up, he's breaking...

I like Trey, but his track record speaks for itself. If he doesn't crash he'll probably do pretty good. But if he wads up, he's breaking a femur for the 3rd time..

You realize he rides all the time, right?

He's not lining up for A1 here.

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10/27/2023 1:51pm

Obviously interested in the specs they did not care to release for some years now. I hope they evolved during this secretive time!

Very curious about the bike performance, power and battery capacity.

Also, the Varg is currently made to compete against 450s set at 75% max power (60 hp) but for this japanese wildcard I haven't heard anything in this regard.

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10/27/2023 2:19pm

DNF, Honda pulls him off before the finish of the race so he doesn't beat all the gas bikes.

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10/27/2023 3:53pm
davis224 wrote:

Are there any riders racing that series close to Trey's level?

Yeah all depends on the quality of the rest of the field…..

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10/27/2023 6:39pm
davis224 wrote:

Are there any riders racing that series close to Trey's level?

CPR wrote:

Yeah all depends on the quality of the rest of the field…..

It’s a Japan national. There’s nobody of his calibre. The tracks, however, race a lot different than American tracks. So track knowledge does help. If that bike id any good he blows everyone away. 

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10/27/2023 11:25pm
davis224 wrote:

Are there any riders racing that series close to Trey's level?

CPR wrote:

Yeah all depends on the quality of the rest of the field…..

studworx wrote:
It’s a Japan national. There’s nobody of his calibre. The tracks, however, race a lot different than American tracks. So track knowledge does help. If that...

It’s a Japan national. There’s nobody of his calibre. The tracks, however, race a lot different than American tracks. So track knowledge does help. If that bike id any good he blows everyone away. 

I guess Jay Wilson (top 15-20 in AMA) is the benchmark?

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10/28/2023 1:08am Edited Date/Time 10/28/2023 1:09am
CPR wrote:

Yeah all depends on the quality of the rest of the field…..

studworx wrote:
It’s a Japan national. There’s nobody of his calibre. The tracks, however, race a lot different than American tracks. So track knowledge does help. If that...

It’s a Japan national. There’s nobody of his calibre. The tracks, however, race a lot different than American tracks. So track knowledge does help. If that bike id any good he blows everyone away. 

Beagle wrote:

I guess Jay Wilson (top 15-20 in AMA) is the benchmark?

Jay qualified with a 2.3 second faster lap than Trey.

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10/28/2023 4:17am
CPR wrote:

Yeah all depends on the quality of the rest of the field…..

studworx wrote:
It’s a Japan national. There’s nobody of his calibre. The tracks, however, race a lot different than American tracks. So track knowledge does help. If that...

It’s a Japan national. There’s nobody of his calibre. The tracks, however, race a lot different than American tracks. So track knowledge does help. If that bike id any good he blows everyone away. 

Beagle wrote:

I guess Jay Wilson (top 15-20 in AMA) is the benchmark?

I mean he had a perfect season. He’s still not Trey calibre. Put Trey on a Honda 450 and let them race…

Like I said, it depends on that bike. And like I also said, these tracks all race different than AMA tracks so knowledge of how they race helps a lot. 

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10/28/2023 5:25am

has Trey spoken about the bike anywhere?

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10/28/2023 5:29am

has Trey spoken about the bike anywhere?

youtube video with swap.

10/28/2023 8:20am
studworx wrote:
It’s a Japan national. There’s nobody of his calibre. The tracks, however, race a lot different than American tracks. So track knowledge does help. If that...

It’s a Japan national. There’s nobody of his calibre. The tracks, however, race a lot different than American tracks. So track knowledge does help. If that bike id any good he blows everyone away. 

Beagle wrote:

I guess Jay Wilson (top 15-20 in AMA) is the benchmark?

studworx wrote:
I mean he had a perfect season. He’s still not Trey calibre. Put Trey on a Honda 450 and let them race… Like I said, it...

I mean he had a perfect season. He’s still not Trey calibre. Put Trey on a Honda 450 and let them race…

Like I said, it depends on that bike. And like I also said, these tracks all race different than AMA tracks so knowledge of how they race helps a lot. 

He rides all the time but it’s been 6 years since his last pro race. 

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10/28/2023 8:23am
Rosso391 wrote:
I like Trey, but his track record speaks for itself. If he doesn't crash he'll probably do pretty good. But if he wads up, he's breaking...

I like Trey, but his track record speaks for itself. If he doesn't crash he'll probably do pretty good. But if he wads up, he's breaking a femur for the 3rd time..

WTF do you ever think before you post?

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10/28/2023 8:30am
Rosso391 wrote:
I like Trey, but his track record speaks for itself. If he doesn't crash he'll probably do pretty good. But if he wads up, he's breaking...

I like Trey, but his track record speaks for itself. If he doesn't crash he'll probably do pretty good. But if he wads up, he's breaking a femur for the 3rd time..

^ the most likely outcome.

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Honda CR ELECTRIC PROTO debut starts strongly in Saitama

Honda CR ELECTRIC PROTO off to a flying start at the opening day of Round 8 of the All Japan Motocross Championship

Honda CR ELECTRIC PROTO debut starts strongly in Saitama

Team HRC’s Trey Canard got the Honda CR ELECTRIC PROTO off to a flying start at the opening day of Round 8 of the All Japan Motocross Championship 2023 at Off-Road Village, Saitama. This is Honda's first participation in an official race with an electric motorcycle.

Making a wildcard appearance in the premier IA1 category of the series, performing in the heat of competition for the first time, Honda’s electric prototype off-road machine proved fast in both of today’s sessions.

In the opening official practice, Canard, who currently serves as team advisor for American Honda Motor Co. Inc., set the second fastest time of the session aboard the number 41 machine and finished second overall just behind multiple champion Jay Wilson.

In the afternoon’s qualifying race, Canard crossed the line in fifth, wrapping up a successful debut day for the CR ELECTRIC PROTO and giving him a good gate pick to carry that momentum into tomorrow’s three race heats.

Trey Canard, no.41 CR ELECTRIC PROTO

“It was a good day overall. I didn’t really know where I or the bike stacked up. I was happy to have a good lap time in practice one and a good start in the qualifying race from pick 24 which has given us a better pick for tomorrow’s races.

“There are some areas I can improve with my riding for tomorrow and we will adjust the bike to fit the track better as well. It’s exciting to race the CR ELECTRIC PROTO, and I believe it will really help the development of the machine. It’s also fun for me to be back racing after a long time away from the starting gate.

“The development team has done a great job adapting the bike in the last month and it’s been a very fun process.”

Taichi Honda, Team HRC Team Manager

“I am very happy that we were able to complete today’s competitive debut of the CR ELECTRIC PROTO without any problems, and that we could see that the bike’s performance is strong. It’s Honda’s first major competitive outing for an electric machine so we are very pleased for this milestone in bringing another new Honda initiative to the world stage.

“Today's running revealed some small issues, which is normal for such a prototype machine, and we will adopt countermeasures for tomorrow's races. It’s a valuable part of testing and learning in such a competitive environment, which is our main objective from this weekend.

“I would like to thank all the people involved in this project for their cooperation and hard work. The opportunity to learn and develop with the CR ELECTRIC PROTO is more important than outright results this weekend, but today the performance was strong, the results were good and we are looking forward to more track time in the heats tomorrow.”

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10/28/2023 10:36am

That's great to see Honda boosting its electric development, more choice can only be a good thing and they sure know what they are doing.

It will probably take them years to get to a production bike but I look forward to seeing Honda compete against the Stark Varg (or Varg 2.0).

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10/28/2023 5:28pm
Beagle wrote:

I guess Jay Wilson (top 15-20 in AMA) is the benchmark?

studworx wrote:
I mean he had a perfect season. He’s still not Trey calibre. Put Trey on a Honda 450 and let them race… Like I said, it...

I mean he had a perfect season. He’s still not Trey calibre. Put Trey on a Honda 450 and let them race…

Like I said, it depends on that bike. And like I also said, these tracks all race different than AMA tracks so knowledge of how they race helps a lot. 

He rides all the time but it’s been 6 years since his last pro race. 

That’s cool and all but you realize how he did today right? 1 guy beat him lol. You guys act like he got 15th

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10/28/2023 5:59pm
studworx wrote:

That’s cool and all but you realize how he did today right? 1 guy beat him lol. You guys act like he got 15th

I think he got 5th in the quali but my point was actually aimed at the guys saying if he was on a stock 450 he would be smoking the field. 

10/28/2023 6:00pm

He finished second, sounds pretty good for an E bike. We don't know how much horsepower the bike makes or how he would have done on a 450

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10/28/2023 6:35pm

Gut feeling.. Honda already has the e-bike ready for a late 2024/early 2025 release. We know they’ve been working on it for a few years and Honda loves the environment-feelz image. And the bike Trey rode doesn’t look like an old school works bike, it looks like a current production bike based race bike. I’m saying it’s in the dealerships during calendar year 2024. 

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10/28/2023 7:11pm

Trey seems like such a cool dude. And the Honda at least looks bad ass, not like some video game rendering bike 

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10/28/2023 7:15pm
Rosso391 wrote:
I like Trey, but his track record speaks for itself. If he doesn't crash he'll probably do pretty good. But if he wads up, he's breaking...

I like Trey, but his track record speaks for itself. If he doesn't crash he'll probably do pretty good. But if he wads up, he's breaking a femur for the 3rd time..

DonM wrote:

WTF do you ever think before you post?

Seriously. Just because it's so easy to be an asshole on the internet, it still doesn't mean you should hit that submit button

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10/28/2023 7:39pm
studworx wrote:

That’s cool and all but you realize how he did today right? 1 guy beat him lol. You guys act like he got 15th

I think he got 5th in the quali but my point was actually aimed at the guys saying if he was on a stock 450 he...

I think he got 5th in the quali but my point was actually aimed at the guys saying if he was on a stock 450 he would be smoking the field. 

2nd... lol

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10/28/2023 7:50pm
studworx wrote:

That’s cool and all but you realize how he did today right? 1 guy beat him lol. You guys act like he got 15th

I think he got 5th in the quali but my point was actually aimed at the guys saying if he was on a stock 450 he...

I think he got 5th in the quali but my point was actually aimed at the guys saying if he was on a stock 450 he would be smoking the field. 

studworx wrote:

2nd... lol

Second?

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