Hello DC and Pro Ama it's been 20 years now....

I can just picture Coombs opening this thread, reading it and saying “Yes, justthefacts is correct. The time is now to level the playing field.”

😂

I think the problem you may face is 69% of us don’t care about two strokes. 
 

Love my 400 and 50 cc’s of Japanese muscle. 

175 and 300cc 4 strokes….

I remember an interview with DC when the yz250f was introduced. He said it was temporary and that they would adjust the cc if it overshadowed the 125 and was unfair. 

Today I saw an interview with the mcgrath talking about how the peak Honda 125 was the only bike capable of jumping sx triples back then and now you would laughed out of sx if you don't hit them on a stock 250f.

We'll never see the rules change before electric and I'm not one to harp on it but the timing of this thread was just too perfect. Amazing how we know DC will see this but won't give us any legitimate reason why it happened the way it did. 

250 2 stroke in the 250 class would be pretty cool.   I think it would be an advantage for some and make shit interesting

but what if you’re wrong 

Dude, idk. The new battle is internal combustion engines vs. electric, get with the times. 

He’s said before they are afraid the oems will pack up and leave and that’s why they won’t adjust the rules.

But let’s find out????  Not being an ass, just asking. 

Who exactly will this rule change benefit?  

Which of the guys currently riding 2-strokes would legitimately place higher if they had 25 - 50 more cc's? I'm thinking none of them would, they'd still be struggling to make mains...

So than what would it hurt?

If none of them improving their current finishes answers the question, then why does it even need to be addressed? I'm sure Feld and MX Sports have legit problems to worry about. 

Why would they change ? are they short in entries , are 250f not selling ? 
 

"It will take all of 20 seconds"
It's been my experience that "all you have to do is" is rarely as easy as the person saying it thinks. 

"...it basically proves 2 things.  They are scared of it..."
You keep saying they're "scared"...what the hell would scare them about this? You said it yourself, "[n]o OEM is taking their ball home with those."
If the rule never gets changed, it'll only prove one thing...it's not a big enough deal for them to make it happen just so a handful of "fans" will say "YIPPEE!" and then promptly find something else to bitch about.

We should just crowd source a big purse for the top 5 point finishers on 2 strokes, like Matthes' privateer thing. If there was 5 or 10 guys trying to make the show on 2 strokes that would be a good race within a race for guys outside the top 20.

Equivalency - Nothing But Equivalency. 

In the various series throughout the World, through to club level racing, where Equivalency has been allowed, 2 strokes have not destroyed the 4 strokes. The 4 strokes have long moved on from XR levels.

Here's Cycle News' 2502t vs 2504t KTM comparison :

https://youtu.be/JxrATC9WfJ0

The suggestions for 'Inventing' new capacity engine rules  for the manufacturers to make - well, it isn't going to happen  - be they 2 stroke or 4 stroke.

 So, we have plenty of 2 stroke 250s, without Suzuki, Kawasaki and Honda, and a fair few 300s - those 'Big Scary 300s'. Which are nothing but squared up 250s. Equivalency may bring bigger engines from a manufacturer or two - as I've said for years now, a Modern 350 / 400cc 2t would be a wonderful thing - and I'm sure a manufacturer or two could sell all they could make. But, it's such an easy money maker, those bigger piston 250s.

And, in AMA Pro racing, well, the major manufacturers will probably have the minimum sales numbers continue to stop little manufacturers ever being raced at the highest level. 

1. I'm pretty sure the manufacturers dictate to DC and FELD

2. They will currently be focusing on electric bullshit

3. what a time to be alive! 2t, 4t, Electric

Many places around the world have been running equal capacity classes for years.
Have not heard of a single negative impact to any rider, team or manufacturer because of it.

US moto politics is the only thing standing in the way.

SX is already struggling with stadiums allowing four strokes to race in them. Recently there have been concerns/complaints of high levels of carbon monoxide and nitrogen oxide for dome stadiums during SX. There is no way these stadiums and their lawyers allow a full gate of two strokes to race in their 1.5 billion dollar stadium. 

With equal displacement the four strokes will still have a competitive advantage at the top level in useable power spread and traction.

So equal displacement please, if someone wants to ride a 250 in the 250 class, good on them.

If someone wants to ride a 300 in the 450 class, that's cool too.

The sound doesn't travel as far, the emissions are negligible for a motorcycle race Vs commuter traffic or any of the million other factors in the world, so who cares, just get this shit done. We have the same thread over and over and over because it's what the fans, and some 250 racers or would be racers without a huge budget, want.

You can race whatever you want in the Vet classes, and guess what?  Everyone races 4 strokes because it is easier to go fast on one.  I turn 50 next year, so I’m plenty old enough to fall for the silly 2 stroke nostalgia, but since I actually race motocross instead of just staring at my bike in the garage, I prefer to own the bike that gives me the best chance of winning.  Who knows?  I might be racing an electric bike one day.

That being said, don’t see why they can’t race equal displacement vs equal displacement.  I wish some of my faster competitors would show up to the line on a 450cc two stroke.

Wait, they can make rule changes that will make some fans say "YIPPEE!" and will not adversely effect competition, and you're arguing they shouldn't do that?