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I was pretty sure there'd be some "MXGP is higher caliber than AMA because Jett didn't dominate" going around after today.
He did dominate that last moto pretty good..
Why is it in the States next year?…..I jest, I jest! Couldn’t resist sorry.
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You'll be in for the win... if you can convince your best riders to come.
No, Sexton would have cleared everyone bar Jett and Roczen(maybe) yesterday, the level has clearly gone up in the past 3-4 years in the AMA series and is better than MXGP.
It must be frustrating for you guys (Americans) to keep being dominated by international riders, even in your domestic series. If it was SX it'd be the other way round, maybe we need a SXoN.
What's frustrating is that we were unable to send the best possible team to represent the US. There's no shame in finishing 8th but we won last year. It's a tough pill to swallow when you know how competitive the US can be with the right team.
Having USA at Ernée was a pleasure. Plessinger was all smile all week-end, just enjoying the moment. Thanks to the riders who answered the call, the MXdN is better with the Americans than without. Sidenote : RJ Hampshire is REALLY sketchy to see ride in real life. 10 close calls a lap, he's scary !
100%. I'm sure Tomac, Sexton and even Deegan would've put on a good challenge.
The track was slick in places. He would've been on his arse all day long..
I doubt it. That was not the track for someone who isn’t fully confident in their bike’s handling.
Outdoors isn't the factory focus and hasn't been for years now. With the lengthy sx and mx seasons in the states riders have little time to take a break , spend time with family and recuperate. MXDN just is not important to many top tier riders like it was 5 - 10 years ago.
If you took a pole an overwhelming number of American riders would be happy to be sx only.
There was even speculation weather or not a U.S. team would even go this year.
The boys did their best and are to be commended for their efforts👍
A SX only rider won the MXGP overall.
What was learned is the best racers in the world are in the US racing the AMA Pro Motocross series.
Unfortunately, if you want the best riders in the world you are going to have to pay them to show.
Basically, start money is needed for ALL the riders to show up.
As much as the MXoN is a great concept and amazing yearly race it’s just never going to be that important if you don’t have the best riders there.
Organizers need to find a solution to find money for the riders to attend. Country loyalty isn’t going to cut it I feel.
I know Craig has had little saddle time this summer but he just seemed out of sorts and off the pace. On the race video for moto 3 he really struggles to keep his front end inside the rut on the 2 lane corners just before finish line? Bike set up?, too stiff a suspension ? , I don't know but it looked odd for a rider of his calibre to struggle in such a simple turn.................
Sexton would have lasted about 15 minutes tops on a track that technical before sampling the dirt as he so often does. He'd have been a dud choice for you guys IMO.
Pit Row
But the best riders in the world did show up, for all other nations (where healthy / able). It was only the US that didn't bother.
I don't see Jett, KR, Prado, Gajser, Febvre etc begging for an attendance fee.
If you have to be paid to bend your arm into representing your country on the world stage (when you're invited no less!), there's something very wrong with your motivation.
The US used to consistently send their top three and the results showed for it. But since the US dominance has waned, there seems to have been a creeping sense of "well if we might not easily win we just won't go" mentality, which is sad. But it's not helped by the critical reception they receive when it doesn't go well by their fans at home, which is a problem.
The best riders in the world showed up without any payment this year?. And they keep doing no matter what country the des nation is held at.
We have ONE country that bitch about the money, the rest is just happy to be a part of it.
Out of the top 10 riders in the world right now, anyone can win on their best day. Jett might be the most complete rider right now, but outside of Jett the level is closer than it has ever been and unless we get a championship with every top rider in the world, that take is just ass.
Btw, my take: Top 3 outdoor riders out of both championships are really close, but MXGP has more depth.
The riders with GP and European background are more well rounded riders that can be on the top at every condition, while the US guys suffer when it get less than ideal.
When Jett and Ken ran up front now it was not because they have raced the AMA national series, it was because they were raised in simular conditions as kids.
Agreed. I didn't recognized his riding style all week-end, as if someone else rode his bike. Tough race for him.
Start money for all the riders to show up? They all show up anyway except for a very few and none of them have given that as a reason they wouldn't be going.
Besides I doubt if Luongo himself could afford to pay all120 riders start money.
Think about it.
If the outdoors isn't a factory focus, why would they bother? SX has been more important for ages, but teams aren't wasting wheelbarrows of cash on outdoors for no reason.
Riders not wanting to race the MXoN isn't a new phenomenon either, it has been going on for decades! There really is no difference between how Team USA was assembled in 1981 and 2023.
The fact is, when Team USA doesn't win, some fans with rose tinted glasses roll out their chest of excuses as to why, rather than just accepting the better team won on the day, because they can't beat their chests and chant USA ... USA... USA!
I think we reached peak ridiculous this weekend with JT$ suggesting the Americans are not use to such a dry track... then in moto 3 after some prep, "this is much more what the American series is like" and "conditions are a little more conducive to riders that ride that series". Summary: Dry tracks? Euro advantage. Wet tracks? Euro advantage. Sand tracks? Euro advantage. Prepped tracks? American advantage. I think this is massively disparaging to American or AMA based riders.
When Team USA was effectively unbeatable at the MXoN, SX was consistently perpetuated as the difference, resulting in a rider with better technique and intensity in MX. Now it is considered the reason for Team USA not performing as well. What changed? Euros are still riding MX 24/7 as they have always done and SX has been a focus for AMA based riders for a long time! Lets be real, little has changed, other than Team USA not dominating the MXoN and "journalists" not wanting to upset their audience. Kenny showed this weekend that talent is talent, riding as Malin said in the commentary, the "Suzukisaurus", as essentially a SX rider!
Whilst lady luck wasn't on Team USA this weekend, they will always have a have a shot at the win or landing on the podium because most nations don't have the luxury to call on three factory riders, let alone have the depth to call it a B or C team. When a team who finished 9th has to call on a guy who works a full-time job in a flower shop, it highlights what you're sometimes up against at this event...
No he really didn’t dominating a moto would have been a 10 second lead or coming through the pack to win
I mean as arrogant as a comment this is you are not wrong but at the same Eli and Chase and Cooper webb are american and they dominated supercross.
then last year eli and chase dominated well…everything
Just remember we didnt send our best and a track like that doesnt favor American riders. Im sure if we rode outdoors only it would be a different story but our american riders are to busy making double doing both series to what GP riders make doing one series.
The cards were really not in his favor, no gate drops in a long time, and it was his first outdoor race on a Husky. Crossed my fingers he'd be up to par, but it just didn't work out that way. Still glad he went though.
What, like the Lawrences, Roczen, Vialle?
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