How about Kenny and the Suzuki?

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ned. 9/17/2023 7:28pm
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Wasn’t Kenny more or less on the same bike when he went damn near perfect during the outdoor series in 2016? Isn’t that the year after the bike was last updated? People are surprised he’s good on the same bike?

Dinosaur or not, that thing hauls! Kenny knows how he wants it set up. His suspension was buttery all night and he said he wasn’t really feeling it Moto 1… Would be nuts to see Chase stick it to Jett next week to claim the 2nd spot in the playoffs with Ken on top!

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ned. wrote:
Wasn’t Kenny more or less on the same bike when he went damn near perfect during the outdoor series in 2016? Isn’t that the year after...

Wasn’t Kenny more or less on the same bike when he went damn near perfect during the outdoor series in 2016? Isn’t that the year after the bike was last updated? People are surprised he’s good on the same bike?

Dinosaur or not, that thing hauls! Kenny knows how he wants it set up. His suspension was buttery all night and he said he wasn’t really feeling it Moto 1… Would be nuts to see Chase stick it to Jett next week to claim the 2nd spot in the playoffs with Ken on top!

It was updated for 2018. He hadn't ridden this current gen bike until HEP, and it took him the first couple months of SX to figure it out. 

Also hope he wins next week, be more exciting than another Honda win at this point. 

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Last2Stroke 9/17/2023 7:53pm
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The reigning World Supercross champion may become the SuperMotocross champion!

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KirkChandler wrote:

Kenny wins the Coliseum and unites the “World” Supercross Championship Belts. 

Lmao is that the equivalent of the Infinity Stones? 

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CPR 9/18/2023 12:24am
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Last2Stroke wrote:

The reigning World Supercross champion may become the SuperMotocross champion!

World Supercross and World SuperMotocross champion! Suzuki champions of the world.
Imagine the promos, inaugural and past champions statuses next year 😂

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Last2Stroke 9/18/2023 1:05am
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Last2Stroke wrote:

The reigning World Supercross champion may become the SuperMotocross champion!

CPR wrote:

World Supercross and World SuperMotocross champion! Suzuki champions of the world.
Imagine the promos, inaugural and past champions statuses next year 😂

Image the surge in sales of these...

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Miezie666 9/18/2023 4:11am
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Magoofan wrote:

Ken proving that the "long in the tooth" Suzukis are still incredible machines.

It's a non-factory racing team too....

 

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That old, outdated, has to be kicked to run,  bike in stock form is far more than 97% of  us mere mortals would ever need.  And...

That old, outdated, has to be kicked to run,  bike in stock form is far more than 97% of  us mere mortals would ever need.  And, in the hands of talent,  It's a solid foundation for any of the elite to have success on.   Every time he has been on the same track with Jett, he has been a complete thorn in his side going up against Honda's latest, greatest, MX wizardry to dominate......  Tech that he walked away from.  Yes, heart alone can do miracles, but in this game, you need a solid foundation to work with.  The Suzi is nothing to be ashamed of at all....  Ken this year has helped enforce that, very well.

Exactly my thoughts- i thought he really is washed up when he left honda- but since he was on the suzuki he was the old kenny from years ago. He can put his bike wherever he wants it, seeing him racing against jett who definitely is the next big thing- shows how good he must feel at HEP Suzuki. That Suzuki deal was the best thing he has done so far- he looks really happy since

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jonesaustin 9/18/2023 5:41am
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we also have to consider how modified that RM is. there may be significant difference between the CRF and RMZ when rolled off the showroom floor but I’d bet if any of the other pros threw a leg over Roczen’s Suzuki they wouldn’t notice any real disadvantage. it’s considerably lighter than stock and has been brought up to speed with the most modern tech inside the engine and suspension.

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TeamGreen 9/18/2023 5:51am
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Magoofan wrote:

Ken proving that the "long in the tooth" Suzukis are still incredible machines.

It's a non-factory racing team too....

 

dadofagun wrote:
That old, outdated, has to be kicked to run,  bike in stock form is far more than 97% of  us mere mortals would ever need.  And...

That old, outdated, has to be kicked to run,  bike in stock form is far more than 97% of  us mere mortals would ever need.  And, in the hands of talent,  It's a solid foundation for any of the elite to have success on.   Every time he has been on the same track with Jett, he has been a complete thorn in his side going up against Honda's latest, greatest, MX wizardry to dominate......  Tech that he walked away from.  Yes, heart alone can do miracles, but in this game, you need a solid foundation to work with.  The Suzi is nothing to be ashamed of at all....  Ken this year has helped enforce that, very well.

The Zook out-handles many of the “Latest & Greatest All New” super-hi-tech cool guy bikes, too. I find that to be too damn funny.

If Suzuki really had their marketing figured out, they’d make damn sure that the Honda CRF450RS was never priced less than the RMZ. Why? Because, that would make sense AND they’d sell more! 

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Magoofan 9/18/2023 7:58am
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jonesaustin wrote:
we also have to consider how modified that RM is. there may be significant difference between the CRF and RMZ when rolled off the showroom floor...

we also have to consider how modified that RM is. there may be significant difference between the CRF and RMZ when rolled off the showroom floor but I’d bet if any of the other pros threw a leg over Roczen’s Suzuki they wouldn’t notice any real disadvantage. it’s considerably lighter than stock and has been brought up to speed with the most modern tech inside the engine and suspension.

Consider how modified the RMZ is....but all of the A-list guys bikes from all the manufacturers are heavily modified.  

 

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Last2Stroke wrote:

The reigning World Supercross champion may become the SuperMotocross champion!

CPR wrote:

World Supercross and World SuperMotocross champion! Suzuki champions of the world.
Imagine the promos, inaugural and past champions statuses next year 😂

Last2Stroke wrote:
Image the surge in sales of these...

Image the surge in sales of these...

image-20230918180516-1

Looks like a cool straw 

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jonesaustin wrote:
we also have to consider how modified that RM is. there may be significant difference between the CRF and RMZ when rolled off the showroom floor...

we also have to consider how modified that RM is. there may be significant difference between the CRF and RMZ when rolled off the showroom floor but I’d bet if any of the other pros threw a leg over Roczen’s Suzuki they wouldn’t notice any real disadvantage. it’s considerably lighter than stock and has been brought up to speed with the most modern tech inside the engine and suspension.

Well yeah.....but every bike at the top level is a factory bike, his is not and arguably the starting point is much lower.  It is very impressive for the rider and the Team.  Awesome to watch.

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JWACK 9/18/2023 12:01pm
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Hey ML is roczen still on the production based KYB stuff?

I haven’t seen a good picture of his bike since SMX started.  

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mb60 9/18/2023 12:16pm
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Put a e start on them and I would buy one this week.

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3D983DDC-73E8-4134-9301-57CFDDF3E97A.jpeg?VersionId=NCMoxt1Y2j769HjIMKen,s Ktm 250 is on display at the Petro in Monee iL. I57 x335.  I told the old lady working there. He’s a world champion that lives & races in America now. She said oh really. They took some parts off the engine so no one would ride off with it. 

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Magoofan 9/18/2023 1:53pm
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Magoofan wrote:

Ken proving that the "long in the tooth" Suzukis are still incredible machines.

It's a non-factory racing team too....

 

dadofagun wrote:
That old, outdated, has to be kicked to run,  bike in stock form is far more than 97% of  us mere mortals would ever need.  And...

That old, outdated, has to be kicked to run,  bike in stock form is far more than 97% of  us mere mortals would ever need.  And, in the hands of talent,  It's a solid foundation for any of the elite to have success on.   Every time he has been on the same track with Jett, he has been a complete thorn in his side going up against Honda's latest, greatest, MX wizardry to dominate......  Tech that he walked away from.  Yes, heart alone can do miracles, but in this game, you need a solid foundation to work with.  The Suzi is nothing to be ashamed of at all....  Ken this year has helped enforce that, very well.

Spot on.

LIke you said, the bike is more than capable for the masses.       Nobody leaves their bike stock either. 

Buying the latest greatest doesn't make you Sexton, Tomac etc.    Self-delusion does marketing's job for them. Wink

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Magoofan 9/18/2023 1:54pm
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mb60 wrote:

Put a e start on them and I would buy one this week.

If I were in the market for a 4-stroke mx bike, it'd buy one.   I don't need e-start.  I got by for many years kicking bikes over. 

Real men use kick-starters. Laughing

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Spot on. LIke you said, the bike is more than capable for the masses.       Nobody leaves their bike stock either.  Buying the latest greatest...

Spot on.

LIke you said, the bike is more than capable for the masses.       Nobody leaves their bike stock either. 

Buying the latest greatest doesn't make you Sexton, Tomac etc.    Self-delusion does marketing's job for them. Wink

Ding ding...we have a winnah.Cool

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plowboy 9/18/2023 2:02pm
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mb60 wrote:

Put a e start on them and I would buy one this week.

Magoofan wrote:
If I were in the market for a 4-stroke mx bike, it'd buy one.   I don't need e-start.  I got by for many years kicking bikes...

If I were in the market for a 4-stroke mx bike, it'd buy one.   I don't need e-start.  I got by for many years kicking bikes over. 

Real men use kick-starters. Laughing

Real "old" men wouldn't complain about the magic button.  My hip and knees hurt trying to pet the dog.Blush

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Magoofan 9/18/2023 2:27pm
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mb60 wrote:

Put a e start on them and I would buy one this week.

Magoofan wrote:
If I were in the market for a 4-stroke mx bike, it'd buy one.   I don't need e-start.  I got by for many years kicking bikes...

If I were in the market for a 4-stroke mx bike, it'd buy one.   I don't need e-start.  I got by for many years kicking bikes over. 

Real men use kick-starters. Laughing

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Real "old" men wouldn't complain about the magic button.  My hip and knees hurt trying to pet the dog.

Real "old" men wouldn't complain about the magic button.  My hip and knees hurt trying to pet the dog.Blush

Oh I get it.   Knee problems are a whole other issue.   If I had knee issues, I'd want e-Start too.   

 

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mb60 9/18/2023 2:38pm
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mb60 wrote:

Put a e start on them and I would buy one this week.

Magoofan wrote:
If I were in the market for a 4-stroke mx bike, it'd buy one.   I don't need e-start.  I got by for many years kicking bikes...

If I were in the market for a 4-stroke mx bike, it'd buy one.   I don't need e-start.  I got by for many years kicking bikes over. 

Real men use kick-starters. Laughing

Good for you. I'm 54 and have short legs and can afford to buy one w/o a kickstarter. 

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plowboy 9/18/2023 2:43pm
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mb60 wrote:

Put a e start on them and I would buy one this week.

Magoofan wrote:
If I were in the market for a 4-stroke mx bike, it'd buy one.   I don't need e-start.  I got by for many years kicking bikes...

If I were in the market for a 4-stroke mx bike, it'd buy one.   I don't need e-start.  I got by for many years kicking bikes over. 

Real men use kick-starters. Laughing

mb60 wrote:

Good for you. I'm 54 and have short legs and can afford to buy one w/o a kickstarter. 

"Short people got no reason..."Woohoo

Joshin' Bud...I get ya.

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The Zook out-handles many of the “Latest & Greatest All New” super-hi-tech cool guy bikes, too. I find that to be too damn funny. If Suzuki...

The Zook out-handles many of the “Latest & Greatest All New” super-hi-tech cool guy bikes, too. I find that to be too damn funny.

If Suzuki really had their marketing figured out, they’d make damn sure that the Honda CRF450RS was never priced less than the RMZ. Why? Because, that would make sense AND they’d sell more! 

Laughing

From his first race on the HEP bike, until this last race at Chicago, every time I see the bike on the track - I find myself screaming out loud to the TV "That son-of-a-gun turns".

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Hell yeah!  Looking forward to Saturday!

P1 Kenny Qualifying.jpg?VersionId=IbsAcOAAl88atfUNHeUaOUB6Q

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Last2Stroke 9/18/2023 5:15pm
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mb60 wrote:

Put a e start on them and I would buy one this week.

Magoofan wrote:
If I were in the market for a 4-stroke mx bike, it'd buy one.   I don't need e-start.  I got by for many years kicking bikes...

If I were in the market for a 4-stroke mx bike, it'd buy one.   I don't need e-start.  I got by for many years kicking bikes over. 

Real men use kick-starters. Laughing

mb60 wrote:

Good for you. I'm 54 and have short legs and can afford to buy one w/o a kickstarter. 

Have you considered surgery to fix your deformity?

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Chris_Buehler 9/18/2023 6:03pm
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mb60 wrote:

Put a e start on them and I would buy one this week.

Magoofan wrote:
If I were in the market for a 4-stroke mx bike, it'd buy one.   I don't need e-start.  I got by for many years kicking bikes...

If I were in the market for a 4-stroke mx bike, it'd buy one.   I don't need e-start.  I got by for many years kicking bikes over. 

Real men use kick-starters. Laughing

You're such a badass. I'll deal with being a pussy because I'll never not have e-start again

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mb60 9/18/2023 6:14pm
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plowboy wrote:
"Short people got no reason..." Joshin' Bud...I get ya.

"Short people got no reason..."Woohoo

Joshin' Bud...I get ya.

It's a curse. Lol 😅

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MX690 9/18/2023 7:32pm
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20230729 100413Hey I love mine, it's way more bike than I could ever use and I actually like the fact that most times at the track I'm usually the only one there on Suzuki, I'm 54 and I pass plenty of younger guys on their Honda's and Yamaha's. 

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