Who will be the third Aussie at the MXdN in France?!

philG
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8/22/2023 2:31pm

Evans will be out of a ride at the end of the season, i expect he wont ride. 

Jett on the 250 100%, he is the guy that wins it for you , Hunter on a 450 in MXGP and Beaton on the Open bike, he has raced Ernee before and knows Europe and the way things work. 

When Germany won at Lommel , Roczen went 5-4 , Schiffer only needed i decent ride and they had it.   Herlings would have won both races had he not have crashed. 

Same for Belgium, JVH at Teuschental, his 2 rides had to count with Desalle's last race DNF. 

Nobody wins it without having a strong 250 guy 

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8/22/2023 2:50pm
GrapeApe wrote:

Tiger Wood

Yep look to the future...Ferris otherwise

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8/22/2023 3:19pm
GrapeApe wrote:

Tiger Wood

TKLEVEN wrote:
welp, we got a problem in Australia… Jett, Hunter, and Tiger is going to be a problem in the future… didn’t even know he was Australian...

welp, we got a problem in Australia… Jett, Hunter, and Tiger is going to be a problem in the future… didn’t even know he was Australian tbh

GrapeApe wrote:

I don't think the Australians even know he's Australian lol

LOL! 

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8/22/2023 3:47pm
philG wrote:
Evans will be out of a ride at the end of the season, i expect he wont ride.  Jett on the 250 100%, he is the...

Evans will be out of a ride at the end of the season, i expect he wont ride. 

Jett on the 250 100%, he is the guy that wins it for you , Hunter on a 450 in MXGP and Beaton on the Open bike, he has raced Ernee before and knows Europe and the way things work. 

When Germany won at Lommel , Roczen went 5-4 , Schiffer only needed i decent ride and they had it.   Herlings would have won both races had he not have crashed. 

Same for Belgium, JVH at Teuschental, his 2 rides had to count with Desalle's last race DNF. 

Nobody wins it without having a strong 250 guy 

Why would you swap the Lawrence brothers onto the other bikes?  Hunter is good enough to get a couple of top tens or better on the 250.

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8/22/2023 4:22pm
plowboy wrote:
All you really need is someone that stays out of the dirt and comes in top ten or so.  The Hunter bros will put you in...

All you really need is someone that stays out of the dirt and comes in top ten or so.  The Hunter bros will put you in the hunt.

Thats Ferris

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8/22/2023 6:55pm

Chad Reed they can get 1 good moto out of him.  He deserves to win one.

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8/22/2023 7:18pm Edited Date/Time 8/22/2023 7:21pm

For those saying Jett should be on the 250, could you please explain why?

Hunter has delivered top 10s on a 250, against the 450s, every time he’s raced at MXdN, and I think most would say Hunter is in even better form this year.

IMO Hunter 250, Jett 450 are no brainer decisions. The only question being the other 450 rider.

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copied and pasted from a previous post I made regarding MX2 importance...

"I'll use purely stats to show that the MX2 class is actually the least important class, or definitely not the standout, most important class....
4x the rider who won the MXGP class has lifted the trophy
3x the rider who won the MX2 class has lifted the trophy
4x the rider who won the Open class has lifted the trophy

The winning nations' MXGP rider has had the best record in the team 7x
The winning nations' MX2 rider has had the best record in the team 5x
The winning nations' Open rider has had the best record in the team 5x

2009 - USA won, Jake Weimer went 8-25 (7th in class) - MXGP 1st / Open 3rd
2010 - USA won, Trey Canard went 7-12 (3rd in class) - MXGP 1st / Open 2nd
2011 - USA won, Blake Baggett went 17-17 (4th in class) - MXGP 1st / Open 1st
2012 - Germany won, Roczen went 5-4 (won his class) - MXGP 2nd / Open 7th
2013 - Belgium won, JvH went 7-7 (3rd in class) - MXGP 3rd / Open 9th
2014 - France won, Dylan Ferrandis went 9-8 (3rd in class) - MXGP 1st / Open 1st
2015 - France won, Marvin Musquin went 4-3 (won his class) - MXGP 4th / Open 1st
2016 - France won, Benoit Paturel went 14-10 (4th in class) - MXGP 2nd / Open 3rd
2017 - France won, Christophe Charlier went 14-6 (4th in class) - MXGP 3rd / Open 2nd
2018 - France won, Dylan Ferrandis went 6-8 (3rd in class) - MXGP 2nd / Open 12th
2019 - Netherlands won, Calvin Vlaanderen went 10-10 (2nd in class) - MXGP 2nd / Open 1st
2020 - n/a
2021 - Italy won, Mattia Guadagnini went 7-17 (2nd in class) - MXGP 7th / Open 6th
2022 - USA won, Justin Cooper went 9-4 (won his class) - MXGP 2nd / Open 2nd

And remember the MX2 class is usually the weakest class, as a lot of smaller nations put their best MX2 rider in the MXGP/Open class for this event. And remember how the Netherlands DOMINATED 2018 at RedBud with Herlings and Coldenhoff winning their classes, and Calvin Vlaanderen only needing a 27th to win (he got a nasty eye-injury). If that happens, the MX2 class gets even less-important...

So really, in conclusion, it just helps to have the best three dudes overall, regardless of class. There certainly isn't a "most important" one."

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8/23/2023 4:25am
GrapeApe wrote:

Tiger Wood

TKLEVEN wrote:
welp, we got a problem in Australia… Jett, Hunter, and Tiger is going to be a problem in the future… didn’t even know he was Australian...

welp, we got a problem in Australia… Jett, Hunter, and Tiger is going to be a problem in the future… didn’t even know he was Australian tbh

GrapeApe wrote:

I don't think the Australians even know he's Australian lol

Some of us do, well us with junior riders, most the kids all know who he is, I have been following his progress though mainly just at LL time each year. A lot of good young Australian talent coming through. Covid was good for MX in this country, there was not much else to do but ride, and a lot of kids started riding!

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8/23/2023 4:28am

As for out team, I think Ferris would be the go this year, hard pack track. Evans or Jed would both do a good job as well, but probably on form Ferris would be the pick at the moment.

If it was sand Webster would be the go, though his skills on the harder surfaces are very good these days, but if it was sand, adding him into this mix with the Lawrence brothers would be a no brainer.

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8/23/2023 5:42am
crusher773 wrote:

Chad Reed they can get 1 good moto out of him.  He deserves to win one.

I was waiting for someone to say this 🤣🤣

I agree,he’s definitely got one moto in him but has to be on a 2 stroke.

 

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8/23/2023 5:43am
philG wrote:
Evans will be out of a ride at the end of the season, i expect he wont ride.  Jett on the 250 100%, he is the...

Evans will be out of a ride at the end of the season, i expect he wont ride. 

Jett on the 250 100%, he is the guy that wins it for you , Hunter on a 450 in MXGP and Beaton on the Open bike, he has raced Ernee before and knows Europe and the way things work. 

When Germany won at Lommel , Roczen went 5-4 , Schiffer only needed i decent ride and they had it.   Herlings would have won both races had he not have crashed. 

Same for Belgium, JVH at Teuschental, his 2 rides had to count with Desalle's last race DNF. 

Nobody wins it without having a strong 250 guy 

Hunter is a strong 250 guy and Jett is possibly the best 450 guy there is right now . It would be stupid to take him off of it . 

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8/24/2023 4:35pm
crusher773 wrote:

Chad Reed they can get 1 good moto out of him.  He deserves to win one.

On a 300cc two stroke in the open class?

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8/24/2023 4:47pm
crusher773 wrote:

Chad Reed they can get 1 good moto out of him.  He deserves to win one.

MXMattii wrote:

On a 300cc two stroke in the open class?

I don't care who it is, or what country they are riding for, I want to see this happen.  Put someone or better yet, multiple someone's on a 300 2t in the open class.  Everts for BEL would be a good one too, he was good on the 125...

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9/5/2023 7:04pm

watch abit of turkey MXGp......mitch had 2 decent starts and ended up with 12 -17?

 

he's really been struggling coming back from that injury ...especially second motos.

 

i can't see him being picked as the third rider ...so hopefully Ferris wants to go?

 

oi oi oi..........

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9/5/2023 7:18pm

give Ferris Jetts practice bike.  

 

hunter 250.

jett and dean 450

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9/5/2023 10:21pm

Yeah but Ferris is on the Yamaha!

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Loch wrote:

Yeah but Ferris is on the Yamaha!

yeah but its not a factory deal or a long term contract. he's riding a bike a dealership gave him haha

Id love nothing more then for him to be on a factory yamaha.

unless Craig Dack lends him a bike for the weekend

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9/6/2023 2:36am
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Yeah but Ferris is on the Yamaha!

yeah but its not a factory deal or a long term contract. he's riding a bike a dealership gave him haha Id love nothing more then...

yeah but its not a factory deal or a long term contract. he's riding a bike a dealership gave him haha

Id love nothing more then for him to be on a factory yamaha.

unless Craig Dack lends him a bike for the weekend

Seems to me like he’s been going more than fine without a factory bike, why change now?

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9/6/2023 3:53am
Loch wrote:

Yeah but Ferris is on the Yamaha!

yeah but its not a factory deal or a long term contract. he's riding a bike a dealership gave him haha Id love nothing more then...

yeah but its not a factory deal or a long term contract. he's riding a bike a dealership gave him haha

Id love nothing more then for him to be on a factory yamaha.

unless Craig Dack lends him a bike for the weekend

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Seems to me like he’s been going more than fine without a factory bike, why change now?

Looking at Deans bike in the pits it looks pretty stock. Only thing really noticeable is the akrapovic pipe on it. I'd assume he'd have an ignition as well and he is running panta race fuel. 

If he could line up a stock bike and take his suspension and ignition it might be all he needs to be comfortable and competitive

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9/6/2023 5:41am

How is Regan Duffy doing by the way? He impressed me at Assen few years back. I think he had a contract ready for F&H but then had that near deadly accident, which he fortunately recovered from

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9/12/2023 10:50pm

done!

Australia will take a powerful line-up into the 2023 Monster Energy FIM Motocross of Nations (MXoN) in France from October 6-8, with siblings Jett and Hunter Lawrence to be joined by fellow Queenslander Dean Ferris at the annual teams’ showstopper.

Words: Press Release | Lead Image: Motorcycling Australia

The triumvirate takes winning form into the MXoN, with Ferris (Yamaha) recently wrapping up a fourth MX1 title in the Australian ProMX championship, while the Lawrences stole the show on their factory Hondas across the Pacific in the AMA Pro Motocross series: Hunter easily winning the 250cc class and Jett utterly dominant in the 450cc division with a peerless, unbeaten season – 22 wins from as many starts. It was just the fifth clean sweep of the 450cc category since its inception, and the first by a rookie.

With stellar individual seasons etched into the record books, Ferris and the Lawrences now turn their attention to the high-stakes MXoN – an event where Australia has come tantalisingly close to victory in the past but without achieving the ultimate reward.

Last year’s MoN in America was a case-in-point, where the Jett-led Team Australia finished a close third behind the host nation and France. Australia also finished third in 2011.

With all three Aussies adding to their CVs in 2023 – Jett in the most emphatic, exhilarating fashion – Australian team manager Michael Byrne is an emboldened figure ahead of this year’s event at the 1.5km Ernee circuit, 300km west of Paris.

“The level of anticipation is high ahead of every Motocross of Nations is high, but this year it has gone to another level,” said the US-based Byrne, himself a former MXoN competitor.

“Hunter and Jett are in career-best form, and I continually marvel at the work rate, skill and temperament of Ferris – he’s the epitome of a tireless campaigner.

“The MXoN is a pinnacle event on the international calendar because it’s tough, pressure-packed and uncompromising – as it should be when the cream of the motocross crop from around the globe come together. I’m super confident Hunter, Jett and Dean will ride out of their skin and do Australia proud.”

Byrne will be supported at the MXoN by Gary Benn, who was previously a long-time Team Australia manager.

Hunter will compete in the MX2 class at the three-race MXoN, while Jett will take on MXGP duties and Ferris is in the Open category. All three classes compete against each other once, and a team can drop its worst result.

It will be the seventh MXoN appearance for Ferris, the fourth for Hunter and second for Jett.

The final entry list for the event will be released shortly, but will include all the European heavyweights such as France and Italy as well as New Zealand and the most successful team in MXoN history – America.

9/13/2023 12:06am

Gotta be Ferriswheel!! He’s like a fine wine!!

The dude is solid and still fast as fuck!!

Im picking Aussie for the win and I’m a Kiwi!!

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9/13/2023 12:13am
ayearinmx wrote:
copied and pasted from a previous post I made regarding MX2 importance... "I'll use purely stats to show that the MX2 class is actually the least...

copied and pasted from a previous post I made regarding MX2 importance...

"I'll use purely stats to show that the MX2 class is actually the least important class, or definitely not the standout, most important class....
4x the rider who won the MXGP class has lifted the trophy
3x the rider who won the MX2 class has lifted the trophy
4x the rider who won the Open class has lifted the trophy

The winning nations' MXGP rider has had the best record in the team 7x
The winning nations' MX2 rider has had the best record in the team 5x
The winning nations' Open rider has had the best record in the team 5x

2009 - USA won, Jake Weimer went 8-25 (7th in class) - MXGP 1st / Open 3rd
2010 - USA won, Trey Canard went 7-12 (3rd in class) - MXGP 1st / Open 2nd
2011 - USA won, Blake Baggett went 17-17 (4th in class) - MXGP 1st / Open 1st
2012 - Germany won, Roczen went 5-4 (won his class) - MXGP 2nd / Open 7th
2013 - Belgium won, JvH went 7-7 (3rd in class) - MXGP 3rd / Open 9th
2014 - France won, Dylan Ferrandis went 9-8 (3rd in class) - MXGP 1st / Open 1st
2015 - France won, Marvin Musquin went 4-3 (won his class) - MXGP 4th / Open 1st
2016 - France won, Benoit Paturel went 14-10 (4th in class) - MXGP 2nd / Open 3rd
2017 - France won, Christophe Charlier went 14-6 (4th in class) - MXGP 3rd / Open 2nd
2018 - France won, Dylan Ferrandis went 6-8 (3rd in class) - MXGP 2nd / Open 12th
2019 - Netherlands won, Calvin Vlaanderen went 10-10 (2nd in class) - MXGP 2nd / Open 1st
2020 - n/a
2021 - Italy won, Mattia Guadagnini went 7-17 (2nd in class) - MXGP 7th / Open 6th
2022 - USA won, Justin Cooper went 9-4 (won his class) - MXGP 2nd / Open 2nd

And remember the MX2 class is usually the weakest class, as a lot of smaller nations put their best MX2 rider in the MXGP/Open class for this event. And remember how the Netherlands DOMINATED 2018 at RedBud with Herlings and Coldenhoff winning their classes, and Calvin Vlaanderen only needing a 27th to win (he got a nasty eye-injury). If that happens, the MX2 class gets even less-important...

So really, in conclusion, it just helps to have the best three dudes overall, regardless of class. There certainly isn't a "most important" one."

The mx2 rider needs one good ride with the open  rider is good ,  if you have to throw out a open riders score it is a lot harder 

 

if I was team Australia manager . jette would  he starting outside both motos , 

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9/13/2023 12:15am Edited Date/Time 9/13/2023 12:15am
Gotta be Ferriswheel!! He’s like a fine wine!! The dude is solid and still fast as fuck!! Im picking Aussie for the win and I’m a...

Gotta be Ferriswheel!! He’s like a fine wine!!

The dude is solid and still fast as fuck!!

Im picking Aussie for the win and I’m a Kiwi!!

Not many times I back an Aussie team , but im the same , go Australia 

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9/13/2023 1:30am Edited Date/Time 9/13/2023 1:31am

Let's not get ahead of ourselves, this is a strong team, arguably our strongest.

However, just because the USA are too scared to send a team, there are still half a dozen teams just as strong as Australia, that are courages and proud to compete for there countries this year.

Fingers crossed.

Oi, oi, oi.

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9/13/2023 1:51am
Let's not get ahead of ourselves, this is a strong team, arguably our strongest. However, just because the USA are too scared to send a team...

Let's not get ahead of ourselves, this is a strong team, arguably our strongest.

However, just because the USA are too scared to send a team, there are still half a dozen teams just as strong as Australia, that are courages and proud to compete for there countries this year.

Fingers crossed.

Oi, oi, oi.

France have gotta be favourites, the Netherlands and Aussies at short odds, followed by Belgium, Spain, Italy, etc. 

Either way this is the best shot we’ve ever had in my opinion.

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9/13/2023 2:12am
Let's not get ahead of ourselves, this is a strong team, arguably our strongest. However, just because the USA are too scared to send a team...

Let's not get ahead of ourselves, this is a strong team, arguably our strongest.

However, just because the USA are too scared to send a team, there are still half a dozen teams just as strong as Australia, that are courages and proud to compete for there countries this year.

Fingers crossed.

Oi, oi, oi.

France is favourite imo , but with no herlings for the Dutch , and no deegan and sexton for the yanks , Aussie is next best , France will need to be very good 

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9/13/2023 3:56am
done! Australia will take a powerful line-up into the 2023 Monster Energy FIM Motocross of Nations (MXoN) in France from October 6-8, with siblings Jett and...

done!

Australia will take a powerful line-up into the 2023 Monster Energy FIM Motocross of Nations (MXoN) in France from October 6-8, with siblings Jett and Hunter Lawrence to be joined by fellow Queenslander Dean Ferris at the annual teams’ showstopper.

Words: Press Release | Lead Image: Motorcycling Australia

The triumvirate takes winning form into the MXoN, with Ferris (Yamaha) recently wrapping up a fourth MX1 title in the Australian ProMX championship, while the Lawrences stole the show on their factory Hondas across the Pacific in the AMA Pro Motocross series: Hunter easily winning the 250cc class and Jett utterly dominant in the 450cc division with a peerless, unbeaten season – 22 wins from as many starts. It was just the fifth clean sweep of the 450cc category since its inception, and the first by a rookie.

With stellar individual seasons etched into the record books, Ferris and the Lawrences now turn their attention to the high-stakes MXoN – an event where Australia has come tantalisingly close to victory in the past but without achieving the ultimate reward.

Last year’s MoN in America was a case-in-point, where the Jett-led Team Australia finished a close third behind the host nation and France. Australia also finished third in 2011.

With all three Aussies adding to their CVs in 2023 – Jett in the most emphatic, exhilarating fashion – Australian team manager Michael Byrne is an emboldened figure ahead of this year’s event at the 1.5km Ernee circuit, 300km west of Paris.

“The level of anticipation is high ahead of every Motocross of Nations is high, but this year it has gone to another level,” said the US-based Byrne, himself a former MXoN competitor.

“Hunter and Jett are in career-best form, and I continually marvel at the work rate, skill and temperament of Ferris – he’s the epitome of a tireless campaigner.

“The MXoN is a pinnacle event on the international calendar because it’s tough, pressure-packed and uncompromising – as it should be when the cream of the motocross crop from around the globe come together. I’m super confident Hunter, Jett and Dean will ride out of their skin and do Australia proud.”

Byrne will be supported at the MXoN by Gary Benn, who was previously a long-time Team Australia manager.

Hunter will compete in the MX2 class at the three-race MXoN, while Jett will take on MXGP duties and Ferris is in the Open category. All three classes compete against each other once, and a team can drop its worst result.

It will be the seventh MXoN appearance for Ferris, the fourth for Hunter and second for Jett.

The final entry list for the event will be released shortly, but will include all the European heavyweights such as France and Italy as well as New Zealand and the most successful team in MXoN history – America.

That's all good except for 'fellow Queenslander' Fuck off he is haha

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9/13/2023 5:45am

was riding at glen echo a few months back, me and ferris were almost the only ones on track at one point. There's a triple I wasn't hitting because the landing was so short and steep, when I doubled it ferris nearly took my head off. Can't believe how close he got to me like there was so much room lol

he is still so so fast he hasn't lost much speed at all and he's definitely a performer that thrives on pressure. Mxon is gunna be sick! 

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