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aeffertz wrote:
Uhm… what?

Uhm… what?

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that model KTM was the coolest shroud of all time 

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burn1986 9/5/2023 12:43pm
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Not sure why they’re taking so long on the 450? Now that they’ve got the 250 done, it shouldn’t be too hard to get a 450 ready in a seemingly short time. 

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burn1986 wrote:
Not sure why they’re taking so long on the 450? Now that they’ve got the 250 done, it shouldn’t be too hard to get a 450...

Not sure why they’re taking so long on the 450? Now that they’ve got the 250 done, it shouldn’t be too hard to get a 450 ready in a seemingly short time. 

Budgets, time, and resources.

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mooch 9/5/2023 1:05pm
9/5/2023 1:05pm Edited Date/Time 9/5/2023 3:32pm
HarrowDrag wrote:
This is a seemingly a huge marketing fail? Why so secretive? There's a bike...show us. The build up is taking a turn southbound Triumph is an...

This is a seemingly a huge marketing fail?

Why so secretive? There's a bike...show us.

The build up is taking a turn southbound

Triumph is an absolute powerhouse of a motorcycle manufacturer...What's going on?

VRR7 wrote:
Baja builds these - Baja owns half of KTM/PG - So they are tryin to pretend by showing all the parts that are not the same...

Baja builds these - Baja owns half of KTM/PG - So they are tryin to pretend by showing all the parts that are not the same as KTM,  As if that will fool people into thinking its another KTM/Husky/GasGas built in the east.  

 

Baja? 

Credibility of your take on this is pretty much zero when you don't even know the company name is Bajaj.

Regardless, Bajaj has nothing to do with Triumph .

Post Edit - nothing to do with Triumphs new mx 250.

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JJO741 9/5/2023 1:07pm
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I’m excited for the first ride impressions and interested in how it compares. Glad to see another manufacturer in moto. 

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I wonder how many are built right now?

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HarrowDrag wrote:
This is a seemingly a huge marketing fail? Why so secretive? There's a bike...show us. The build up is taking a turn southbound Triumph is an...

This is a seemingly a huge marketing fail?

Why so secretive? There's a bike...show us.

The build up is taking a turn southbound

Triumph is an absolute powerhouse of a motorcycle manufacturer...What's going on?

VRR7 wrote:
Baja builds these - Baja owns half of KTM/PG - So they are tryin to pretend by showing all the parts that are not the same...

Baja builds these - Baja owns half of KTM/PG - So they are tryin to pretend by showing all the parts that are not the same as KTM,  As if that will fool people into thinking its another KTM/Husky/GasGas built in the east.  

 

mooch wrote:
Baja?  Credibility of your take on this is pretty much zero when you don't even know the company name is Bajaj. Regardless, Bajaj has nothing to...

Baja? 

Credibility of your take on this is pretty much zero when you don't even know the company name is Bajaj.

Regardless, Bajaj has nothing to do with Triumph .

Post Edit - nothing to do with Triumphs new mx 250.

Nothing to do with Triumph?
 

https://www.webbikeworld.com/triumph-bajaj-2023-lineup-to-feature-produ…

https://www.carandbike.com/news/bajajtriumph-bike-unveil-today-what-we-…

https://www.rideapart.com/news/665172/triumph-bajaj-launch-date-hinted/

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Thisusernameisavailable 9/5/2023 1:12pm
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HarrowDrag wrote:
This is a seemingly a huge marketing fail? Why so secretive? There's a bike...show us. The build up is taking a turn southbound Triumph is an...

This is a seemingly a huge marketing fail?

Why so secretive? There's a bike...show us.

The build up is taking a turn southbound

Triumph is an absolute powerhouse of a motorcycle manufacturer...What's going on?

VRR7 wrote:
Baja builds these - Baja owns half of KTM/PG - So they are tryin to pretend by showing all the parts that are not the same...

Baja builds these - Baja owns half of KTM/PG - So they are tryin to pretend by showing all the parts that are not the same as KTM,  As if that will fool people into thinking its another KTM/Husky/GasGas built in the east.  

 

mooch wrote:
Baja?  Credibility of your take on this is pretty much zero when you don't even know the company name is Bajaj. Regardless, Bajaj has nothing to...

Baja? 

Credibility of your take on this is pretty much zero when you don't even know the company name is Bajaj.

Regardless, Bajaj has nothing to do with Triumph .

Post Edit - nothing to do with Triumphs new mx 250.

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HarrowDrag wrote:
This is a seemingly a huge marketing fail? Why so secretive? There's a bike...show us. The build up is taking a turn southbound Triumph is an...

This is a seemingly a huge marketing fail?

Why so secretive? There's a bike...show us.

The build up is taking a turn southbound

Triumph is an absolute powerhouse of a motorcycle manufacturer...What's going on?

VRR7 wrote:
Baja builds these - Baja owns half of KTM/PG - So they are tryin to pretend by showing all the parts that are not the same...

Baja builds these - Baja owns half of KTM/PG - So they are tryin to pretend by showing all the parts that are not the same as KTM,  As if that will fool people into thinking its another KTM/Husky/GasGas built in the east.  

 

mooch wrote:
Baja?  Credibility of your take on this is pretty much zero when you don't even know the company name is Bajaj. Regardless, Bajaj has nothing to...

Baja? 

Credibility of your take on this is pretty much zero when you don't even know the company name is Bajaj.

Regardless, Bajaj has nothing to do with Triumph .

Post Edit - nothing to do with Triumphs new mx 250.

https://triumph-mediakits.com/en/news-articles/triumph-and-bajaj-global…

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Thisusernameisavailable 9/5/2023 1:13pm
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VRR7 wrote:
Baja builds these - Baja owns half of KTM/PG - So they are tryin to pretend by showing all the parts that are not the same...

Baja builds these - Baja owns half of KTM/PG - So they are tryin to pretend by showing all the parts that are not the same as KTM,  As if that will fool people into thinking its another KTM/Husky/GasGas built in the east.  

 

mooch wrote:
Baja?  Credibility of your take on this is pretty much zero when you don't even know the company name is Bajaj. Regardless, Bajaj has nothing to...

Baja? 

Credibility of your take on this is pretty much zero when you don't even know the company name is Bajaj.

Regardless, Bajaj has nothing to do with Triumph .

Post Edit - nothing to do with Triumphs new mx 250.

Thisusernameisavailable wrote:

IMG 8469

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VRR7 wrote:
Baja builds these - Baja owns half of KTM/PG - So they are tryin to pretend by showing all the parts that are not the same...

Baja builds these - Baja owns half of KTM/PG - So they are tryin to pretend by showing all the parts that are not the same as KTM,  As if that will fool people into thinking its another KTM/Husky/GasGas built in the east.  

 

mooch wrote:
Baja?  Credibility of your take on this is pretty much zero when you don't even know the company name is Bajaj. Regardless, Bajaj has nothing to...

Baja? 

Credibility of your take on this is pretty much zero when you don't even know the company name is Bajaj.

Regardless, Bajaj has nothing to do with Triumph .

Post Edit - nothing to do with Triumphs new mx 250.

Thisusernameisavailable wrote:

IMG 8469

This months AMA magazine has a full write up on there partnership but that article is about the 400 scrambler

 Competes against the duke but Bajaj builds both. Not sure about this 250. 

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A lot of things make a lot of sense now with the announced Bajaj partnership. And VRR7 is right: Bajaj owns 49.9% stake in PTW Holding AG (the KTM group’s parent company) since 2021.

 

For the guys raving about Triumph‘s reliability: the bike’s going to be exactly as reliable as a KTM 250 SXF (if the quality control in Asia is as good as in Austria). 

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HonDawg17 9/5/2023 1:38pm
9/5/2023 1:38pm Edited Date/Time 9/5/2023 1:42pm
HonDawg17 wrote:
Its better than the other videos at least. But the bits you get to see SCREAM KTM ripoff. Obvious front fender from a '07 KTM 250SXF...

Its better than the other videos at least. But the bits you get to see SCREAM KTM ripoff. Obvious front fender from a '07 KTM 250SXF. And the stock silencer is spitting image of a '11 KTM 250SXF. Can no one make their own ideas anymore???

OnTheCrossbar wrote:

Silencer, swing arm, clamps, and I’m sure more. But Vital is being very defensive today and don’t want to hear it!

Right? I mean c'mon guys. Its literally a rip off of someone's bike. Just had to be the one that they already make 3 different bikes out of...facepalm.

edit: I really didn't want to hate on this bike. I thought it would be a legit contender right off the bat, and maybe it still can be. But then you just carbon copy a bike so obvious you wouldn't be able to tell them apart if they both ran the same color plastics.

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TeamGreen 9/5/2023 1:42pm
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King_George_III wrote:

Its British, if anything like the other stuff we churn out (jcb) it will probably be shit. 

Magoofan wrote:
Awful lot of people buying Triumph products that are quite happy with them....and putting a lot of mileage on them. As mentioned earlier, I own a...

Awful lot of people buying Triumph products that are quite happy with them....and putting a lot of mileage on them.

As mentioned earlier, I own a 2020 Tiger 900 Rally Pro....totally new/redesigned model in 2020.    I've beat the hell out of it for over 3 years now...mostly off-road.     Solid product....only issues with it are what I brought on myself due to drops and line selection. 

I'd buy another in a heartbeat.

 

For old fools like us, it’s jus’ too damn easy to get into places we shouldn’t on our ADVs. Laughing

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TeamGreen 9/5/2023 1:43pm
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HonDawg17 wrote:
Its better than the other videos at least. But the bits you get to see SCREAM KTM ripoff. Obvious front fender from a '07 KTM 250SXF...

Its better than the other videos at least. But the bits you get to see SCREAM KTM ripoff. Obvious front fender from a '07 KTM 250SXF. And the stock silencer is spitting image of a '11 KTM 250SXF. Can no one make their own ideas anymore???

OnTheCrossbar wrote:

Silencer, swing arm, clamps, and I’m sure more. But Vital is being very defensive today and don’t want to hear it!

HonDawg17 wrote:
Right? I mean c'mon guys. Its literally a rip off of someone's bike. Just had to be the one that they already make 3 different bikes...

Right? I mean c'mon guys. Its literally a rip off of someone's bike. Just had to be the one that they already make 3 different bikes out of...facepalm.

edit: I really didn't want to hate on this bike. I thought it would be a legit contender right off the bat, and maybe it still can be. But then you just carbon copy a bike so obvious you wouldn't be able to tell them apart if they both ran the same color plastics.

Anyone seen the swing arm on a Honda CRF250/300L…? 
Laughing

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Stephen Baird 9/5/2023 1:54pm
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jonesaustin wrote:

that model KTM was the coolest shroud of all time 

Those two bikes aren't even remotely close !! You guys are unbelievable !! 

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RightHookNoCandy 9/5/2023 2:03pm
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HonDawg17 wrote:
Its better than the other videos at least. But the bits you get to see SCREAM KTM ripoff. Obvious front fender from a '07 KTM 250SXF...

Its better than the other videos at least. But the bits you get to see SCREAM KTM ripoff. Obvious front fender from a '07 KTM 250SXF. And the stock silencer is spitting image of a '11 KTM 250SXF. Can no one make their own ideas anymore???

OnTheCrossbar wrote:

Silencer, swing arm, clamps, and I’m sure more. But Vital is being very defensive today and don’t want to hear it!

HonDawg17 wrote:
Right? I mean c'mon guys. Its literally a rip off of someone's bike. Just had to be the one that they already make 3 different bikes...

Right? I mean c'mon guys. Its literally a rip off of someone's bike. Just had to be the one that they already make 3 different bikes out of...facepalm.

edit: I really didn't want to hate on this bike. I thought it would be a legit contender right off the bat, and maybe it still can be. But then you just carbon copy a bike so obvious you wouldn't be able to tell them apart if they both ran the same color plastics.

wtf are you talking about? What bike is it a "carbon copy" of? The centerpiece of the fucking machine is a completely different material than the aus bikes. "OMG the fucking angle of the front fender and number plates look EXACTLY like a ktm" who gives a fuck? Completely diff frame and suspension the bike is 90% different than any of the aus bikes just by that alone. Also your comment about the exhaust makes no sense if anything the silencer looks like a modern CRF250 silencer, not that it matters.

Who cares how similar it looks to anything, if its a good bike its a good bike. 

And by the way, taking notes from successful parts of existing machines is not a "bad" thing anyways. Happens all the time in manufacturing. Thats how progression happens lol. 

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OnTheCrossbar wrote:

Silencer, swing arm, clamps, and I’m sure more. But Vital is being very defensive today and don’t want to hear it!

HonDawg17 wrote:
Right? I mean c'mon guys. Its literally a rip off of someone's bike. Just had to be the one that they already make 3 different bikes...

Right? I mean c'mon guys. Its literally a rip off of someone's bike. Just had to be the one that they already make 3 different bikes out of...facepalm.

edit: I really didn't want to hate on this bike. I thought it would be a legit contender right off the bat, and maybe it still can be. But then you just carbon copy a bike so obvious you wouldn't be able to tell them apart if they both ran the same color plastics.

RightHookNoCandy wrote:
wtf are you talking about? What bike is it a "carbon copy" of? The centerpiece of the fucking machine is a completely different material than the...

wtf are you talking about? What bike is it a "carbon copy" of? The centerpiece of the fucking machine is a completely different material than the aus bikes. "OMG the fucking angle of the front fender and number plates look EXACTLY like a ktm" who gives a fuck? Completely diff frame and suspension the bike is 90% different than any of the aus bikes just by that alone. Also your comment about the exhaust makes no sense if anything the silencer looks like a modern CRF250 silencer, not that it matters.

Who cares how similar it looks to anything, if its a good bike its a good bike. 

And by the way, taking notes from successful parts of existing machines is not a "bad" thing anyways. Happens all the time in manufacturing. Thats how progression happens lol. 

Get out of here with that common sense and grounded point of view! Lol!

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Paul333 9/5/2023 2:26pm
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How hard is it to simply post a picture of the bike.....?

It's not rocket science yet they continue to *uck this up. 

 

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King_George_III wrote:

Its British, if anything like the other stuff we churn out (jcb) it will probably be shit. 

Magoofan wrote:
Awful lot of people buying Triumph products that are quite happy with them....and putting a lot of mileage on them. As mentioned earlier, I own a...

Awful lot of people buying Triumph products that are quite happy with them....and putting a lot of mileage on them.

As mentioned earlier, I own a 2020 Tiger 900 Rally Pro....totally new/redesigned model in 2020.    I've beat the hell out of it for over 3 years now...mostly off-road.     Solid product....only issues with it are what I brought on myself due to drops and line selection. 

I'd buy another in a heartbeat.

 

TeamGreen wrote:
For old fools like us, it’s jus’ too damn easy to get into places we shouldn’t on our ADVs. 

For old fools like us, it’s jus’ too damn easy to get into places we shouldn’t on our ADVs. Laughing

So true.   I'm probably riding the thing harder than I should...but it's taken a flogging.

   Munched my aftermarket skidplate pretty good this weekend.

 

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mooch 9/5/2023 3:11pm
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VRR7 wrote:
Baja builds these - Baja owns half of KTM/PG - So they are tryin to pretend by showing all the parts that are not the same...

Baja builds these - Baja owns half of KTM/PG - So they are tryin to pretend by showing all the parts that are not the same as KTM,  As if that will fool people into thinking its another KTM/Husky/GasGas built in the east.  

 

mooch wrote:
Baja?  Credibility of your take on this is pretty much zero when you don't even know the company name is Bajaj. Regardless, Bajaj has nothing to...

Baja? 

Credibility of your take on this is pretty much zero when you don't even know the company name is Bajaj.

Regardless, Bajaj has nothing to do with Triumph .

Post Edit - nothing to do with Triumphs new mx 250.

Broseph wrote:

Nothing to do with Triumph?
 

https://www.webbikeworld.com/triumph-bajaj-2023-lineup-to-feature-produ…

https://www.carandbike.com/news/bajajtriumph-bike-unveil-today-what-we-…

https://www.rideapart.com/news/665172/triumph-bajaj-launch-date-hinted/

Silly me...I thought this thread had to do with Triumph's new motocross bike and not retro street bikes. 

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colintrax 9/5/2023 3:20pm
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Another bike with a quicker shifter is cool, wonder if it's up/down or just up?

Looks like it has some quality components. Ought to be a nice riding bike

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I wonder what the age demographics are for those whining about not getting immediate gratification and those who understand patience.  Grinning Silly

 

 

 

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couldn't care if there was 8 different ktms... more teams the better. more teams with factory support the better. we could see a gate filled of 22 riders with all factory support. 

so many riders go Pro and don't perform in the first season and we never see them again. now there's a chance for them riders to still pick up a ride or riders pointing out of 250 class and didn't have a ride due to not enough factory teams..

KTM with alloy frame and KYB suspension.. sounds like a dam good combo.

I'm excited to see team colors and graphics for the Triumph.

white front plastics with black rear plastics would looks sick with some yellow line work on the graphics

 

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aeffertz 9/5/2023 5:25pm
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wtf are you talking about? What bike is it a "carbon copy" of? The centerpiece of the fucking machine is a completely different material than the...

wtf are you talking about? What bike is it a "carbon copy" of? The centerpiece of the fucking machine is a completely different material than the aus bikes. "OMG the fucking angle of the front fender and number plates look EXACTLY like a ktm" who gives a fuck? Completely diff frame and suspension the bike is 90% different than any of the aus bikes just by that alone. Also your comment about the exhaust makes no sense if anything the silencer looks like a modern CRF250 silencer, not that it matters.

Who cares how similar it looks to anything, if its a good bike its a good bike. 

And by the way, taking notes from successful parts of existing machines is not a "bad" thing anyways. Happens all the time in manufacturing. Thats how progression happens lol. 

Clearly not following along are you? It’s a carbon copy of a 2007 Yamaha YZ250F, 2009 KTM 250 SXF, 2011 KTM 250 SXF, 2022 KTM 250 SXF and a prototype KTM aluminum frame that was found discarded in a nearby dumpster. They really thought they could get away with it, too!

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ben5020 9/5/2023 6:04pm
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If they build a 350 I’d be down for one.

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brocster 9/5/2023 6:10pm
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Thank you Triumph!  

Stoked to have another choice out there. 

small changes = progress, no need to re invent the wheel…

 

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Black plastic, graphics are already available! 
 

What time does Deegan race?.

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