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Don’t believe me, go watch the French GP wk end.
What a track, true mix of old & new. So many lines, so many nationalities, enormous crowd all around the course creating an epic atmosphere, the racing is so good right now.
Now go watch any Sx round from last season & tell me it’s better.
It’s not one or the other lol gtfo
Sx has 40,000+ fans every weekend. Plenty of different nationalities. And mostly, pretty good racing.
Dont get me wrong, I really love mxgp (and am heavily involved with quite a few teams over the past decade), but it’s not always amazing. Talk to me after the Indonesian rounds when 11 people show up, racing isn’t great, a man made track (hopefully not in a hotel parking lot light Palembang was), and half the riders have food poisoning and are just riding around.
AMA sx is the premier series, hence the reason why most of the top guys still want to come here. Mxgp is a close second, and AMA mx is a close third. All three series has their pros and cons to them and we should all just sit back and enjoy the great racing from each series.
Oh, and here’s a photo from Palembang’s hotel parking lot track for proof.
Not this shit again.
Well, they did have a motocross race today, so it probably set the standard for elite professional motocross races this weekend.
(Love all moto and tend to really enjoy the French tracks a lot; but wattabuchabaloney.)
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In terms of broadcasting and Paul Malin, MXGP is great, I agree. But there is also a lot of fucked up things behind the scenes.
Also don't get why you would compare MXGP to Supercross. MXGP is as core as it gets. I'd rather compare it to the AMA nationals and I couldn't personally decide which I think is better.. I'd always prefer both over SX but I still watch every SX round because there is no better sport.
Kroc win at indy, 60k people
Then they will race in some parking lot in Bangladesh for government money with no spectators. The highs are high but lows are low. US MX/SX standards are much more consistent
As long as riders from all around the world dream to win a AMA Supercross 450 title, MXGP will not be the standard for off road racing.
I'm from Europe and I love MXGP, in fact I prefer it over AMA SX, but I can't deny the truth, in todays world AMA SX is the premier championship with the highest attendance, highest salaries, highest manufacturer Support...
How can you explain a casual fan that the MXGP championship leader (Jorge Prado), who is leading the Motocross WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP, that his childhood dream was to win an national championship over a World championship? How can you explain that last year MX2 World Champion decided to race a national championship this year instead of the world championship?
I wish MXGP was like MotoGP or the Formula 1 of motocross, just imagine a motocross world championship with Tomac, Herlings, Prado, Sexton, Seewer, Webb, Jett and Hunter Lawrence, Ferrandis, Seewer, Febvre, Renaux.... Competing 20 races all year round in circuits all over the world, Lommel, RedBud, Matterly Basin, Unadilla, Neuquen, Manjimup... Now that would be the pinnacle of off road motorcycling!
But chances are that such a championship is more likely to happen in AMA Motocross than in MXGP
That’s what we should be aiming for as an industry. A true world championship of motocross, first step would be for a top Elite us rider to win a MXGP title, or at least have a proper go.
The sport still has room to grow globally. I see a lot of you like to jump on the case when MXGP dares to go to unusual parts of the globe, but at least the series is daring to grow, try new markets.
AMA Sx might be the top cash cow, but where it going over the next 20 Years ?
finally a justification for Resort fees.
Would you accept a job offer from a company on the other side of the pond? Away from your family and friends, living in a country where you have to start from scratch, learning the language as your co-workers probably don't speak English, and on top of that, getting paid less?
Well in a job at least you get paid, because there are a few riders in the MXGP paddock that pay to race, not many years ago a rider who was in a Factory team was a pay rider.
Wish I could go back and watch last season. The coverage was horrible to non-existent. #thelostseason
USMX needs Langston and glen Helen. Nix Pala. Allow 2stroke 250s in the lites class. Restrict promoters from cordoning off half the fucking viewable area for "Vip" seating and ban EZUPS along fence lines (ahem hangtown). Run qualifying Saturday.
Yep. I feel the same.
I really doubt there's much advantage to either side when it comes to outdoors. SX is for freaks
My favorite part is the "pro-grip" signs dotted around the track. They nicely complement the soviet style coverage and highlight package that hasn't changed in 20 years (cue euro highlight reel music).
Do they still play gatecrasher just before the gate drops?
You mean the shit hole in France? Jeffrey thinks so...
hole all safe and well." - Jeffrey Herlings
"Not the best day, 2 - dnf. Had multiple issues in moto 2, but plenty of racing left. Little bump in the road, but let’s keep moving forwards. Track was sketchy all weekend, happy to get out of that
Personally, I didn't think the track was bad. It was kind of smooth compared to most AMA races.
And yet the winner of the last 2 MX2 titles is racing AMA...because he wants to be in the us instead of racing GPs....and he got 5th...in a regional series.
Could you imagine Jet winning two 250SX titles then leaving to race the GPs? Oh wait he was in Europe and couldn't wait to get to the US
The GP’s are fantastic and always will be, but if your talking Nationalities look at who the favorites are for the AMA motocross championship. The top 3 contenders for the 450 class are from three different continents. The 250 class has guys from four continents battling for the title. The AMA series is very international.
We do need more Americans In the GP’s though. Paging Vohland and Masterpool for starters.
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My favorite part of mxgp is the hoops I have to jump through and the money I have to spend to watch it.
The hoops? Yeah so difficult to sign up one time for a whole $100 or so and be done with it. And their broadcast production and announcing is roughly 5x better than what we get wioth peacock. I mean you pay a little more for MXGP-TV but you get way more so kind of evens out in my opinion.
I agree... It seems pricey up front, but if you actually want content, there is a LOT of it. It's not just a couple moto's each race weekend. And the overall quality is definitely a step up from what we get for "SuperMotocross" coverage...
International riders go to the US to race SX, not for the Nationals. The opportunity to race the premier supercross series is the attraction, after they’ve developed elite level skills in the GP’s.
I thought the mxgp class/title was the premier title in the world, guess not
Premier motocross title. AMA is the premier supercross title.
Comparing GPs to AMA SX is apples to oranges.
Sx is the premier title anywhere. Ask. Vialle
Yes, the track you show is less than inspiring. Though, I'd place it above Pala, easily . I've been to several Indo MXGPs, and at that Hotel Track ( Indonesian GPs are very affordable from here in OZ ) and Pala (quite few times).
I'm having to leave my decision on going to Indonesia this year quite late, as my Ortho might be doing some maintenance on me, in a few weeks. I wish he could get his schedule sorted out a bit better so I could get mine sorted..........
Can't really blame him though, as much of the delay is in getting the high zoot prosthesis that I want 'installed ' into me.
Last years 2nd Indonesian / Asian GP at a fantastic track, perhaps you missed seeing it? :
https://youtu.be/tSnavqGpido
And to keep riding 250s, and to delay getting thrown to the Wolves in the 450 class. If they can get a ride in it, that is.
Lluongos "23 (or , 2 x 250 Titles) and You're Out" rule certainly is a driver for riders to go to the USA. And, of course, the lure of SX.
Look how long you can remain in 250s in the USA - it certainly gave Zacho time to refine his craft, get a few 250 titles , long after he was 23, and get a 450 title. And that is how it should be, everywhere. I always applaud the US rules that allow riders to race the class they prefer, or, can get a ride in.
As for Herling's bitchy post about France - well, it's the sort of thing you'd expect from a 'disappointed with the results' rider.
.....and still no prize money..
Yes indeed.
As that prick Lluongo / Infront, ever fills his pockets from 'his' sport.
Mind you, I find the fact that Matthes' LCQ race, pays better than decades established US major race series, just, well, ..... pick your choice for whatever word one prefers.
And for that, I thoroughly Commend Steve for such a thing. He may not be everyone's (nor mines) cup of tea, all the time, but I think his doing the LCQ race is just a wonderful, Wonderful thing. Good on Yah, Steve!
Winners like Vialle moving to the US is something we have seen every now and then for the past 30 years, i dont see it as a big issue for mxgp.
Bigger issue in mxgp imho is the nr of well funded rides. Jacobi gets 12th in mxgp but only wildcards selectes rounds, pancar is 10th in mx2 points and is full privateer.
Which rides will be available for guys who age out like Horgmo and vd moosdijk, and what does it do for riders like Watson?
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