Lawrence Bros Just Say No To Pulp

5/19/2023 2:00pm
kiwifan wrote:

gee lots of negative comments....anything positive?

Not really. Both are good riders, but I think they (Jett) especially are in for a rude awakening. Your playing with the big boys now, you're...

Not really. Both are good riders, but I think they (Jett) especially are in for a rude awakening. Your playing with the big boys now, you're gifted MXDN win is a bit different than racing the Nationals. We will find out and I will eat crow if I'm wrong. But that doesn't happen very often.

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I think you may be in for a plate full this summer only because Who is going to be a challenge ?  Hopefully DF. has a...

I think you may be in for a plate full this summer only because Who is going to be a challenge ?  Hopefully DF. has a good outdoors .    

I also think people are sleeping on Plessinger...

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5/19/2023 2:04pm
Goldmember wrote:

Huh?

Jett has said several times he is bummed he doesn't get to race Eli.

So he is unlucky, by his own reckoning.

Ya easy to say that now......any comments to go along with the narrative before Eli got hurt? Not a fan but Chase will "Son" Jett during...

Ya easy to say that now......any comments to go along with the narrative before Eli got hurt? Not a fan but Chase will "Son" Jett during the outdoors. As will a motivated Dylan and Plessinger. Both Chase, Jett, and the whole 450 class should be happy that Tomac can't line up.

Goldmember wrote:
Dealing with facts, Jett has beaten Ferrandis the last 3 times they've raced. That's twice at Round 9 Pala in 2020 and at MXON Open/MXGP in...

Dealing with facts, Jett has beaten Ferrandis the last 3 times they've raced. That's twice at Round 9 Pala in 2020 and at MXON Open/MXGP in 2022.

He also convincingly beat Sexton at MXON and finished well in front of Eli as well.

Why do you assume the whole 450 class will be 'happy' that Eli was badly injured and is out? There is something a bit off with a thought process that leads to that. For whom the bell tolls.

 

I'm not saying they're happy he was hurt, but I'm sure they're relieved that the title favorite is not going to be racing and demoralizing them. 

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5/19/2023 2:16pm
Moto520 wrote:
Steve Matthes and his platforms are a huge opportunity to speak to the fans.  It looks really douchy to not talk to Steve and Pulpmx.  Steve...

Steve Matthes and his platforms are a huge opportunity to speak to the fans.  It looks really douchy to not talk to Steve and Pulpmx.  Steve is THE GUY in motocross media right now and he's earned it.   i think it's a bad look for the Lawrence's.  They come across as prima donnas when they do the lame media refusals.  

UpTiTe wrote:
I agree with you on Mathes, huge outlet for hardcore moto guys.     But 500 14-18 year old girls showed up at a local track on...

I agree with you on Mathes, huge outlet for hardcore moto guys. 
 

 But 500 14-18 year old girls showed up at a local track on a last minute announcement to get a picture and an autograph from them, I’d bet none know who Steve is. 

Sounds like Jailbait to me

Only for people who immediately think sex, when a 14yr old girl is mentioned. 

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5/19/2023 2:42pm Edited Date/Time 5/19/2023 2:46pm

Vital:  "The Lawrence brothers are being shoved down our throats wahhhhh...sick of Jett he's a punk !!!! "

Vital:  "The Lawrence brothers didn't do an interview with Matthes waaaahh...it's gotta be Hunter...no wait...Mirtl...no...the dad !!!! "

Vital logic/conclusion to any and all scenarios:  "This is gonna come back and bite them HARD in the future !!!! "

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5/19/2023 3:12pm
gerg wrote:
Vital:  "The Lawrence brothers are being shoved down our throats wahhhhh...sick of Jett he's a punk !!!! " Vital:  "The Lawrence brothers didn't do an interview...

Vital:  "The Lawrence brothers are being shoved down our throats wahhhhh...sick of Jett he's a punk !!!! "

Vital:  "The Lawrence brothers didn't do an interview with Matthes waaaahh...it's gotta be Hunter...no wait...Mirtl...no...the dad !!!! "

Vital logic/conclusion to any and all scenarios:  "This is gonna come back and bite them HARD in the future !!!! "

it almost like this is a group of people with different opinions, 

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5/19/2023 3:29pm

Who cares if the Lawrence Bros don't want to talk to Matthes, maybe they think he's a total kook and lost all respect for him after the bike claim incident.  I know a lot of people who think he's a total clown after that:

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/How-did-PulpMx-handle-th…

 

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5/19/2023 4:04pm Edited Date/Time 5/19/2023 4:06pm
Who cares if the Lawrence Bros don't want to talk to Matthes, maybe they think he's a total kook and lost all respect for him after...

Who cares if the Lawrence Bros don't want to talk to Matthes, maybe they think he's a total kook and lost all respect for him after the bike claim incident.  I know a lot of people who think he's a total clown after that:

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/How-did-PulpMx-handle-th…

 

I think you have to be pretty deep down the rabbit hole to be upset about Matthes and claimgate. I doubt they know anything about who he interviewed too friendly. Plus it seems like all the industry bros think Brennan was in the wrong somehow as well. 

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5/19/2023 4:08pm
UpTiTe wrote:
I agree with you on Mathes, huge outlet for hardcore moto guys.     But 500 14-18 year old girls showed up at a local track on...

I agree with you on Mathes, huge outlet for hardcore moto guys. 
 

 But 500 14-18 year old girls showed up at a local track on a last minute announcement to get a picture and an autograph from them, I’d bet none know who Steve is. 

Sounds like Jailbait to me

toroP wrote:

Only for people who immediately think sex, when a 14yr old girl is mentioned. 

Toro, I know you like following me around on here but please feel free to take a hike on this one.  

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5/19/2023 4:21pm

I'm going to go out on a limb here.  Steve has the largest audience outside of race broadcasts.  The ultimate job of a pro racer is selling merchandise.  So I assume you must manage that part of your business if you are a top racer.  It is interesting that Steve is not blowing them up.  That is his MO in the past.  Both sides are managing what ever the situation is. 

I for one enjoy most of his content.  I also read stories on vital and other outlets.  I am not a fan of some of the other podcasts and I don't watch vlogs.  I am of the demographic that can afford toys and buy things.  Point being Steve reaches the audience that buys stuff,

so you manage that relationship.  

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5/19/2023 4:39pm

I’m sure the bro’s are reading all this laughing their ass’s off

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5/19/2023 5:36pm Edited Date/Time 5/19/2023 5:37pm
I bet once Jett starts getting tuned up by Sexton and Dylan, and J Coop and RJ start handing Huntah his ass. They will kill to...

I bet once Jett starts getting tuned up by Sexton and Dylan, and J Coop and RJ start handing Huntah his ass. They will kill to be a guest on Pulpmx again. Don't underestimate Steve's pull in the industry. Just saying.

Laughing Jett and Hunter Lawrence already have had more success than 99.9999999% of the riders who swing a leg over a dirtbike. They're factory riders for Team Honda and as long as they stay healthy, they are going to make a shit ton of cash and win a lot of Championships.   I'm sure they're terrified not appearing on Pulp

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5/19/2023 5:47pm
gerg wrote:
Vital:  "The Lawrence brothers are being shoved down our throats wahhhhh...sick of Jett he's a punk !!!! " Vital:  "The Lawrence brothers didn't do an interview...

Vital:  "The Lawrence brothers are being shoved down our throats wahhhhh...sick of Jett he's a punk !!!! "

Vital:  "The Lawrence brothers didn't do an interview with Matthes waaaahh...it's gotta be Hunter...no wait...Mirtl...no...the dad !!!! "

Vital logic/conclusion to any and all scenarios:  "This is gonna come back and bite them HARD in the future !!!! "

So true,I personally do not give a rats ass who interviews them and who does not, doesnt worry me in the slightest.

What I DO enjoy is seeing them ride, super talented and its a shame the tall poppy syndrome rears its ugly head when they do so well.

 

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5/19/2023 7:00pm
ML512 wrote:

Getting ours was challenging.

Buckland wrote:

Who was running interference?

yes mike can u provide some clarity on the comment?

or will that get u banned from future interviews? ala ariel helwani  ..Smile

fan of the lawrences (and alot of other riders ..) so innocent until proven guilty with some of the negatives in this thread.

but Matthes /PULPMX fills a media void in the promotion of  our sport and should be supported by the riders where possible.

hopefully they will still give "gypsy tales"  some time anyways 

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5/19/2023 7:20pm
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Goldmember wrote:

Ok, you've got me again 

Jett 3 out of the 4 times.

mx313 wrote:
That's essentially a heat. And do we really consider heats? Jett got 3rd or 4th last weekend.  And they raced moto 2 and 3 at mxon...

That's essentially a heat. And do we really consider heats? Jett got 3rd or 4th last weekend. 

And they raced moto 2 and 3 at mxon vs each other. So u missed a race there. So either 4 from 4 or 4 from 5 if u count heat races.

What doesn't count is one off events like the MXdN. Has Coldenhoff been stacking up MXGP titles since 2018?

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5/19/2023 7:28pm

I also think people are sleeping on Plessinger...

NorCal - have you experienced any of these symptoms? I am concerned for you friend Wink

 

grapic-FASTstroke

 

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5/19/2023 7:30pm

It’s a power move though. Rest of the media is gonna know you don’t criticize them now. 

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When I think about all the hype around Jett Lawrence, it's because most people interested in SX/MX arn't stupid, they recognize special talent that comes around every so once in a while.  Lackey, Hannah, Bailey, McGrath, RC, RV and Bubba and others had extreme speed that put them head and heels above the rest.  Everyone that qualifies for a SX or MX main is in a upper echelon of dirt bike riders, but then there are the freaks that has special abilities and do things that don't seem possible.  Will Jett be one of those legends, I've seen enough to make me think that there's something about this kid that's going to make him one of the greats, but there's always that unknown factor, but I'm certainly stoked to see him race the 450 MX series.  I think having Hunter Lawrence as a team mate is just an added bonus and will benefit Jett.  Pulp's gonna need the Lawrence brothers a lot more than the Lawrence brothers needing Pulp. 

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5/19/2023 11:13pm
tek14 wrote:

How much Pulp is paying them or others for their time? 

This is such a bad take. 
 

The riders need to remember where ultimately their salary comes from. 
 

If the riders don’t give the fans what they want, fans might just stop buying Alpinestar, Red Bull, Honda, etc etc etc… if the fans stop buying into ‘Lawrence’ then they don’t have a job. The Lawrence’s are currently the ‘hot news’, but rest assured there will be another phenomena or fan favourite coming through soon. Deegan is the the biggest threat to the ‘Golden boy’ throne & if he gives the media & fans exactly what they want he steals the limelight. Do you think Honda/Red Bull will be happy with that?

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5/19/2023 11:57pm
Rickyisms wrote:

You’re smoking crack if you think 1000 people listen to Steve weekly. 

Pulpmx got over 250,000 views on YouTube alone in the last month..

pulp is much bigger than you would think, people from all over the world tune in.

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This is such a bad take.    The riders need to remember where ultimately their salary comes from.    If the riders don’t give the fans...

This is such a bad take. 
 

The riders need to remember where ultimately their salary comes from. 
 

If the riders don’t give the fans what they want, fans might just stop buying Alpinestar, Red Bull, Honda, etc etc etc… if the fans stop buying into ‘Lawrence’ then they don’t have a job. The Lawrence’s are currently the ‘hot news’, but rest assured there will be another phenomena or fan favourite coming through soon. Deegan is the the biggest threat to the ‘Golden boy’ throne & if he gives the media & fans exactly what they want he steals the limelight. Do you think Honda/Red Bull will be happy with that?

Have you thought of a career as a torturer?

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5/20/2023 1:13am
tek14 wrote:

How much Pulp is paying them or others for their time? 

This is such a bad take.    The riders need to remember where ultimately their salary comes from.    If the riders don’t give the fans...

This is such a bad take. 
 

The riders need to remember where ultimately their salary comes from. 
 

If the riders don’t give the fans what they want, fans might just stop buying Alpinestar, Red Bull, Honda, etc etc etc… if the fans stop buying into ‘Lawrence’ then they don’t have a job. The Lawrence’s are currently the ‘hot news’, but rest assured there will be another phenomena or fan favourite coming through soon. Deegan is the the biggest threat to the ‘Golden boy’ throne & if he gives the media & fans exactly what they want he steals the limelight. Do you think Honda/Red Bull will be happy with that?

Bob Hannah would disagree with you

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5/20/2023 1:56am Edited Date/Time 5/20/2023 2:00am
tek14 wrote:

How much Pulp is paying them or others for their time? 

This is such a bad take.    The riders need to remember where ultimately their salary comes from.    If the riders don’t give the fans...

This is such a bad take. 
 

The riders need to remember where ultimately their salary comes from. 
 

If the riders don’t give the fans what they want, fans might just stop buying Alpinestar, Red Bull, Honda, etc etc etc… if the fans stop buying into ‘Lawrence’ then they don’t have a job. The Lawrence’s are currently the ‘hot news’, but rest assured there will be another phenomena or fan favourite coming through soon. Deegan is the the biggest threat to the ‘Golden boy’ throne & if he gives the media & fans exactly what they want he steals the limelight. Do you think Honda/Red Bull will be happy with that?

I have no idea about riders obligations regarding PR however if Honda was concerned about PR for their athletes they would be pushing Chase to get to a spot where Hunter and Jett are which isn't happening is it? I have no idea about Red Bull and what they demand.

From what I've seen out of the Lawerences as soon as they entered the AMA they did a bunch of self promotion to secure their income and future in case they get injured, I don't think factory teams are chasing "golden boy" title hype as you suggest, Lawerences have already established their presence Jett has a donut company ffs, this is just temporary afterall they will be back in the media I would assume there is a big focus on Jett fighting for the title I would imagine that is their primary goal rather than some limelight.

They've done their groundwork for their brand they danced whenever told for the past 3 years they're good, The biggest draw is their talent which is undeniable which the reason why we tune in every week to see the showcase the best talent, Jett has so much talent when it's said and done for his career his haters will become fans.


If Redbull and Honda weren't happy with the break from the media you would see them back in the media asap.

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Do you peeps remember when Hunter Lawrence was on Pulp a while back?

Keefer was commenting how he felt hunter had improved his riding over the season... Hunter was not taking any of this, disagreeing and actually backing up his take with specific race results. 

Oh, and that " resting bitch face "comment about Tomac. Remember that? Laughing

As much as Pulp is fun,  Maybe the Law Bros have other priorities other than joining in the bro down and chit chat... For now.

They might come back some day out of good gesture toward Steve, if he gives them the puppy look enough times and buries the beef.

Pulp needs the Lawrences more than the Lawrences need Pulp. Especially if they become even more relevant & successful.

Now, who will come first to the show? The Law Bros? Jason Anderson? Herlings? Stankdog?

Barcia, Carmichael, Josh Hill are cool now.  There's hope !

But... If the Lawrence mania becomes too much ...every single podcast gargling their jewels  ... Steve might be the only one not doing it... and therefore Pulp might be refreshing ... The only rebel podcast of MX, the one and only not selling out ! 

I Remember it was Daniel Blair would initiated the Carmichael reconciliation. Who is it gonna be this time? Lewis? DarkSide? 

 

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Everyone saying Steve needs them more than they need him. You think having Jett on Pulp is going to generate life changing revenue for Steve? He's had plenty of the top guys over the years that don't like him and he's been just fine. And for the guy asking about payment, no other professional athletes get paid for interviews. 

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5/20/2023 3:31am
tek14 wrote:

How much Pulp is paying them or others for their time? 

This is such a bad take.    The riders need to remember where ultimately their salary comes from.    If the riders don’t give the fans...

This is such a bad take. 
 

The riders need to remember where ultimately their salary comes from. 
 

If the riders don’t give the fans what they want, fans might just stop buying Alpinestar, Red Bull, Honda, etc etc etc… if the fans stop buying into ‘Lawrence’ then they don’t have a job. The Lawrence’s are currently the ‘hot news’, but rest assured there will be another phenomena or fan favourite coming through soon. Deegan is the the biggest threat to the ‘Golden boy’ throne & if he gives the media & fans exactly what they want he steals the limelight. Do you think Honda/Red Bull will be happy with that?

Deegan is more popular than Jett already in my opinion. 

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5/20/2023 4:21am

Deegan is more popular than Jett already in my opinion. 

I agree, IMO he has got a generation hooked and I think this is only the start barring any serious injury

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5/20/2023 5:18am Edited Date/Time 5/20/2023 5:19am
tek14 wrote:

How much Pulp is paying them or others for their time? 

This is such a bad take.    The riders need to remember where ultimately their salary comes from.    If the riders don’t give the fans...

This is such a bad take. 
 

The riders need to remember where ultimately their salary comes from. 
 

If the riders don’t give the fans what they want, fans might just stop buying Alpinestar, Red Bull, Honda, etc etc etc… if the fans stop buying into ‘Lawrence’ then they don’t have a job. The Lawrence’s are currently the ‘hot news’, but rest assured there will be another phenomena or fan favourite coming through soon. Deegan is the the biggest threat to the ‘Golden boy’ throne & if he gives the media & fans exactly what they want he steals the limelight. Do you think Honda/Red Bull will be happy with that?

Deegan is more popular than Jett already in my opinion. 

Online followers and the autograph lines would suggest you’re right. 

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5/20/2023 5:26am
UpTiTe wrote:

Online followers and the autograph lines would suggest you’re right. 

20 years of Deegan Inc is the reason.

Jett Inc. started a bare 3 years ago. 

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5/20/2023 5:45am Edited Date/Time 5/20/2023 5:46am
UpTiTe wrote:

Online followers and the autograph lines would suggest you’re right. 

Goldmember wrote:

20 years of Deegan Inc is the reason.

Jett Inc. started a bare 3 years ago. 

I’m not disagreeing with that, I’m just saying that Deegs has a much bigger presence. 

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Do you peeps remember when Hunter Lawrence was on Pulp a while back? Keefer was commenting how he felt hunter had improved his riding over the...

Do you peeps remember when Hunter Lawrence was on Pulp a while back?

Keefer was commenting how he felt hunter had improved his riding over the season... Hunter was not taking any of this, disagreeing and actually backing up his take with specific race results. 

Oh, and that " resting bitch face "comment about Tomac. Remember that? Laughing

As much as Pulp is fun,  Maybe the Law Bros have other priorities other than joining in the bro down and chit chat... For now.

They might come back some day out of good gesture toward Steve, if he gives them the puppy look enough times and buries the beef.

Pulp needs the Lawrences more than the Lawrences need Pulp. Especially if they become even more relevant & successful.

Now, who will come first to the show? The Law Bros? Jason Anderson? Herlings? Stankdog?

Barcia, Carmichael, Josh Hill are cool now.  There's hope !

But... If the Lawrence mania becomes too much ...every single podcast gargling their jewels  ... Steve might be the only one not doing it... and therefore Pulp might be refreshing ... The only rebel podcast of MX, the one and only not selling out ! 

I Remember it was Daniel Blair would initiated the Carmichael reconciliation. Who is it gonna be this time? Lewis? DarkSide? 

 

Disclaimer: I don’t know you, and I don’t know Steve..

I DO KNOW, Matthes gave like $150k (or whatever it was) to privateers this year..

more than any other media outlet / promoter etc.

he honestly could have pocketed the money and no one would have cared, but he gave it to the guys that battle their ass off week in week out. 
If you don’t have respect for that then you arent a fan of the sport, and probably shouldn’t be on a Moto / SX  forum..

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