For all you doubters, CW2 IS the fastest guy on the track.

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Jett don't look that fast either, but he keeps winning....case closed.

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Crossed the line 1st 

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2/26/2023 3:41pm Edited Date/Time 2/26/2023 4:09pm
cool_hand wrote:

Jett don't look that fast either, but he keeps winning....case closed.

Is it just a coincidence your post count is 420? 

 

Sorry, couldn't resist. 

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When it matters most he is. You would think he would get more love from the old guys who drink castor oil for breakfast lol, a little appreciation for the guy who doesn't need a perfectly prepped track to be at his best. 

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I’ve never seen anyone faster at the end of a soft, beat up SX track in my life. Watching how fast he closed on Eli at Oakland last weekend in person was one of the craziest speed drops I have ever seen on a track and I’ve watched a ton of SX races live and in person. 
 

No one is faster in that scenario and luckily for him,  over half of the tracks on the circuit break down that way, so late in a race he always has a shot. It’s wild to watch. 

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I have observed a pattern that when Eli comes up on a major record, he has little trouble tying the record, but struggles to break it.

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Tell us how ya' really feel!

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I have always thought Coop came across as a little cocky and arrogant.  I really didn't hold that against him because when a dude backs up his shit...what are you gonna say that doesn't make you look jealous and douchy?

I saw him in the pits...kissin' babies and lovin' on the little kids that parents kept throwing at him.  My perception of him and what I saw didn't jive...so I decided on a new perception.  He's a-ok fellas.

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2/26/2023 5:53pm
aeffertz wrote:
Tell us how ya' really feel! [img]https://i.imgur.com/1O4m6sg.png[/img]

Tell us how ya' really feel!

That’s bordering on creepy stalking!
 

 

I like it 👍

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2/26/2023 5:54pm

We already know it's going to be 3, 2, or 23 for the title.  23 is by far the underdog.  He's up against 2 past champions with more experience.  He needs to pull out a rabbit trick and stop making mistakes.  CW2 is the real deal.  The title goes to 3 or 2 with 90% certainty.  

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aeffertz wrote:
Tell us how ya' really feel! [img]https://i.imgur.com/1O4m6sg.png[/img]

Tell us how ya' really feel!

Webb fan inferiority complex

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2/26/2023 6:21pm

Crossed the line 1st 

So that makes someone the fastest… So if the top 18 all crash and A ray wins, he was the quickest huh.. Stupid 

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2/26/2023 6:31pm
cool_hand wrote:

Jett don't look that fast either, but he keeps winning....case closed.

I thought maybe you'd reference his late-race lap times or the fact that he completes races in a shorter time than everyone else, but you went with some weird Jett comparison out of left field...interesting take.

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plowboy wrote:
I have always thought Coop came across as a little cocky and arrogant.  I really didn't hold that against him because when a dude backs up...

I have always thought Coop came across as a little cocky and arrogant.  I really didn't hold that against him because when a dude backs up his shit...what are you gonna say that doesn't make you look jealous and douchy?

I saw him in the pits...kissin' babies and lovin' on the little kids that parents kept throwing at him.  My perception of him and what I saw didn't jive...so I decided on a new perception.  He's a-ok fellas.

I always thought Jett was a bit cocky (he probably is lol) but we ran into him in the pits when no one else was around. He went out of his way to be cool to my little one when he didn’t have to. He made my boys day, made a fan forever out of me, not to mention my son! I love that in this sport we have access to all these guys

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2/26/2023 6:42pm

What we’ve got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can’t reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it; well, he gets it. I don’t like it any more than you men.

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chasetwo79 wrote:
I’ve never seen anyone faster at the end of a soft, beat up SX track in my life. Watching how fast he closed on Eli at...

I’ve never seen anyone faster at the end of a soft, beat up SX track in my life. Watching how fast he closed on Eli at Oakland last weekend in person was one of the craziest speed drops I have ever seen on a track and I’ve watched a ton of SX races live and in person. 
 

No one is faster in that scenario and luckily for him,  over half of the tracks on the circuit break down that way, so late in a race he always has a shot. It’s wild to watch. 

What I don't get though is why that "balls to the wall when things are broken down" speed doesn't translate to the more raw gnarly tracks of the outdoor series... anyone have an explanation for that?

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1911 wrote:

That’s bordering on creepy stalking!
 

 

I like it 👍

I recognized the screen name for some reason and went to check if it was the "Open Letter to Cooper Webb" guy and as I was scrolling through the threads he created I noticed a trend. Not the creepy guy, just a super fan! Grinning

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TeamGreen wrote:
What we’ve got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can’t reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the...

What we’ve got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can’t reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it; well, he gets it. I don’t like it any more than you men.

Yes I caught the reference lol

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I was expecting to see laptimes or something. 

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Crossed the line 1st 

CDA331 wrote:

So that makes someone the fastest… So if the top 18 all crash and A ray wins, he was the quickest huh.. Stupid 

He'd be the quickest guy in that race Laughing

2/27/2023 1:16am
ShipLap wrote:

I have observed a pattern that when Eli comes up on a major record, he has little trouble tying the record, but struggles to break it.

That's the type of stuff I think it was either 2016 or 2017, whenever he was chasing down Dungey in points literally gapping the shit out of him week in week out and when the time came for Tomac to lead the points he crumbled and gave the title to Dungey.

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chasetwo79 wrote:
I’ve never seen anyone faster at the end of a soft, beat up SX track in my life. Watching how fast he closed on Eli at...

I’ve never seen anyone faster at the end of a soft, beat up SX track in my life. Watching how fast he closed on Eli at Oakland last weekend in person was one of the craziest speed drops I have ever seen on a track and I’ve watched a ton of SX races live and in person. 
 

No one is faster in that scenario and luckily for him,  over half of the tracks on the circuit break down that way, so late in a race he always has a shot. It’s wild to watch. 

revkev151 wrote:
What I don't get though is why that "balls to the wall when things are broken down" speed doesn't translate to the more raw gnarly tracks...

What I don't get though is why that "balls to the wall when things are broken down" speed doesn't translate to the more raw gnarly tracks of the outdoor series... anyone have an explanation for that?

I think Cooper himself has said he struggles with higher speeds. Beat to shit tight twisty tracks? He's got it. Beat to shit 4th gear straights with long sweeping corners? Not his forte.

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Tyler D wrote:

I was expecting to see laptimes or something. 

I was curious so I looked them up. First race Saturday Coop was 5th fastest lap time, 4th fastest avg lap times. Second race 3rd fastest lap, 1st avg. Third race 3rd fastest lap, 1st avg. A little better than I would have guessed. 

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chasetwo79 wrote:
I’ve never seen anyone faster at the end of a soft, beat up SX track in my life. Watching how fast he closed on Eli at...

I’ve never seen anyone faster at the end of a soft, beat up SX track in my life. Watching how fast he closed on Eli at Oakland last weekend in person was one of the craziest speed drops I have ever seen on a track and I’ve watched a ton of SX races live and in person. 
 

No one is faster in that scenario and luckily for him,  over half of the tracks on the circuit break down that way, so late in a race he always has a shot. It’s wild to watch. 

You’re hilarious! ELI went off the track and was not pushing the last lap. That’s the only reason Webb was faster. Eli doesn’t care if he wins by 1 second or 15 seconds. He’s not going to send it on the last lap if he doesn’t have to. 

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SX_336 wrote:
You’re hilarious! ELI went off the track and was not pushing the last lap. That’s the only reason Webb was faster. Eli doesn’t care if he...

You’re hilarious! ELI went off the track and was not pushing the last lap. That’s the only reason Webb was faster. Eli doesn’t care if he wins by 1 second or 15 seconds. He’s not going to send it on the last lap if he doesn’t have to. 

What about the 10 seconds of gap he had in the laps before that he had lost before he made the mistake? You’re dumb if you think anyone is cruising in the last laps for a win if they know cooper is behind them. He has changed the way of mailing it in the last laps 

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chasetwo79 wrote:
I’ve never seen anyone faster at the end of a soft, beat up SX track in my life. Watching how fast he closed on Eli at...

I’ve never seen anyone faster at the end of a soft, beat up SX track in my life. Watching how fast he closed on Eli at Oakland last weekend in person was one of the craziest speed drops I have ever seen on a track and I’ve watched a ton of SX races live and in person. 
 

No one is faster in that scenario and luckily for him,  over half of the tracks on the circuit break down that way, so late in a race he always has a shot. It’s wild to watch. 

revkev151 wrote:
What I don't get though is why that "balls to the wall when things are broken down" speed doesn't translate to the more raw gnarly tracks...

What I don't get though is why that "balls to the wall when things are broken down" speed doesn't translate to the more raw gnarly tracks of the outdoor series... anyone have an explanation for that?

davis224 wrote:
I think Cooper himself has said he struggles with higher speeds. Beat to shit tight twisty tracks? He's got it. Beat to shit 4th gear straights...

I think Cooper himself has said he struggles with higher speeds. Beat to shit tight twisty tracks? He's got it. Beat to shit 4th gear straights with long sweeping corners? Not his forte.

Then how did he win 250 outdoor titles....

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2/27/2023 7:53am
chasetwo79 wrote:
I’ve never seen anyone faster at the end of a soft, beat up SX track in my life. Watching how fast he closed on Eli at...

I’ve never seen anyone faster at the end of a soft, beat up SX track in my life. Watching how fast he closed on Eli at Oakland last weekend in person was one of the craziest speed drops I have ever seen on a track and I’ve watched a ton of SX races live and in person. 
 

No one is faster in that scenario and luckily for him,  over half of the tracks on the circuit break down that way, so late in a race he always has a shot. It’s wild to watch. 

SX_336 wrote:
You’re hilarious! ELI went off the track and was not pushing the last lap. That’s the only reason Webb was faster. Eli doesn’t care if he...

You’re hilarious! ELI went off the track and was not pushing the last lap. That’s the only reason Webb was faster. Eli doesn’t care if he wins by 1 second or 15 seconds. He’s not going to send it on the last lap if he doesn’t have to. 

Disagree. 
That got too close for comfort and too close to be calculated. 
 

Eli wouldn’t let it get that close by choice because you never can trust the rider behind isn’t going to take a ballsy lunge on the last turn. (See Hunter Lawrence @ Tampa)

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SX_336 wrote:
You’re hilarious! ELI went off the track and was not pushing the last lap. That’s the only reason Webb was faster. Eli doesn’t care if he...

You’re hilarious! ELI went off the track and was not pushing the last lap. That’s the only reason Webb was faster. Eli doesn’t care if he wins by 1 second or 15 seconds. He’s not going to send it on the last lap if he doesn’t have to. 

Cygrace74 wrote:
What about the 10 seconds of gap he had in the laps before that he had lost before he made the mistake? You’re dumb if you...

What about the 10 seconds of gap he had in the laps before that he had lost before he made the mistake? You’re dumb if you think anyone is cruising in the last laps for a win if they know cooper is behind them. He has changed the way of mailing it in the last laps 

It was 5 second gap going in to last lap, not 10. 

 

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chasetwo79 wrote:
I’ve never seen anyone faster at the end of a soft, beat up SX track in my life. Watching how fast he closed on Eli at...

I’ve never seen anyone faster at the end of a soft, beat up SX track in my life. Watching how fast he closed on Eli at Oakland last weekend in person was one of the craziest speed drops I have ever seen on a track and I’ve watched a ton of SX races live and in person. 
 

No one is faster in that scenario and luckily for him,  over half of the tracks on the circuit break down that way, so late in a race he always has a shot. It’s wild to watch. 

SX_336 wrote:
You’re hilarious! ELI went off the track and was not pushing the last lap. That’s the only reason Webb was faster. Eli doesn’t care if he...

You’re hilarious! ELI went off the track and was not pushing the last lap. That’s the only reason Webb was faster. Eli doesn’t care if he wins by 1 second or 15 seconds. He’s not going to send it on the last lap if he doesn’t have to. 

Disagree.  That got too close for comfort and too close to be calculated.    Eli wouldn’t let it get that close by choice because you never...

Disagree. 
That got too close for comfort and too close to be calculated. 
 

Eli wouldn’t let it get that close by choice because you never can trust the rider behind isn’t going to take a ballsy lunge on the last turn. (See Hunter Lawrence @ Tampa)

Had he not had the mishap, he would have won by 3-4 seconds. It was calculated. Eli is smart. Doesn’t push it in qualifiers. Just gets top 5 and then races smart in the heat and saves energy for the main. 

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2/27/2023 10:22am
SX_336 wrote:
You’re hilarious! ELI went off the track and was not pushing the last lap. That’s the only reason Webb was faster. Eli doesn’t care if he...

You’re hilarious! ELI went off the track and was not pushing the last lap. That’s the only reason Webb was faster. Eli doesn’t care if he wins by 1 second or 15 seconds. He’s not going to send it on the last lap if he doesn’t have to. 

Disagree.  That got too close for comfort and too close to be calculated.    Eli wouldn’t let it get that close by choice because you never...

Disagree. 
That got too close for comfort and too close to be calculated. 
 

Eli wouldn’t let it get that close by choice because you never can trust the rider behind isn’t going to take a ballsy lunge on the last turn. (See Hunter Lawrence @ Tampa)

SX_336 wrote:
Had he not had the mishap, he would have won by 3-4 seconds. It was calculated. Eli is smart. Doesn’t push it in qualifiers. Just gets...

Had he not had the mishap, he would have won by 3-4 seconds. It was calculated. Eli is smart. Doesn’t push it in qualifiers. Just gets top 5 and then races smart in the heat and saves energy for the main. 

Go look at the lap chart. He lost 0 time with that bobble. I was shocked. His laps were the same.

2/27/2023 10:48am
SX_336 wrote:
You’re hilarious! ELI went off the track and was not pushing the last lap. That’s the only reason Webb was faster. Eli doesn’t care if he...

You’re hilarious! ELI went off the track and was not pushing the last lap. That’s the only reason Webb was faster. Eli doesn’t care if he wins by 1 second or 15 seconds. He’s not going to send it on the last lap if he doesn’t have to. 

Disagree.  That got too close for comfort and too close to be calculated.    Eli wouldn’t let it get that close by choice because you never...

Disagree. 
That got too close for comfort and too close to be calculated. 
 

Eli wouldn’t let it get that close by choice because you never can trust the rider behind isn’t going to take a ballsy lunge on the last turn. (See Hunter Lawrence @ Tampa)

SX_336 wrote:
Had he not had the mishap, he would have won by 3-4 seconds. It was calculated. Eli is smart. Doesn’t push it in qualifiers. Just gets...

Had he not had the mishap, he would have won by 3-4 seconds. It was calculated. Eli is smart. Doesn’t push it in qualifiers. Just gets top 5 and then races smart in the heat and saves energy for the main. 

And there’s another important reason he wouldn’t let the margin for error get that small… ‘unexpected bobbles’. 
 

 

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