Stark Varg Reviews

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12/20/2022 8:36am Edited Date/Time 12/20/2022 8:42am

Yup, it's me, and the VARG

 

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12/20/2022 8:42am
keinz wrote:
Yup, it's me, and the VARG  

Yup, it's me, and the VARG

 

How does it feel?

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12/20/2022 11:12am
ando wrote:
Those who say it can’t be done should get out of the way of those who are doing it.
while some of his post might be diminished...your response goes to show either 1. you know he's right about a lot of things and you're scared...
while some of his post might be diminished...your response goes to show either 1. you know he's right about a lot of things and you're scared to answer or 2. see #1.
ando wrote:
Ok I’ll add my comments in order of his points: 1. Most people would have logically assumed the “no maintenance” claim applied to the engine, and...
Ok I’ll add my comments in order of his points:

1. Most people would have logically assumed the “no maintenance” claim applied to the engine, and many would know that in reality there’s always something even if minor.

2. Range. Yes a genuine concern. Appears to be adequate for at least one dirtbike discipline- short course racing like MX/SX.

3. Cost. So he’d buy one at $12K but $15K and then make a point about the cost of bikes? That’s only a 25% difference. Maybe critical to some but it won’t be a barrier for many. Oh and I’m still waiting for the end of this 25 year long death spiral we’re in since four strokes came back to prominence.

4. Bit going on here. I’d bet all those generators burn gas more efficiently than if it was in a bike. If anyone is operating a gold mine that requires moving thousands of tonnes of dirt to produce one ounce of gold they’re either complete fools or not in business for very long. Recycling battery waste is a genuine concern.

5. Getting harder to follow. Can’t make much sense of most of this except to say that the people who paid millions for their acreage probably have enough $$$ to fork out for an electric dirtbike (and most likely have friends in the same boat).

6. Yes a lot of startups fail but not all. Everything you touch is produced by a company that was once a startup. Not sure of the point here.

7. Yes, every generation complains that the next is going to be worse off because technology has made their lives easier. That argument has been going on for hundreds of years. Also I agree with the original comment about noise at races (or lack thereof). I don’t think it will be the death knell of MX/SX. Plenty of atmosphere at ball sports stadiums but the play itself is silent.

8. Charging infrastructure will come. Like it’s doing for passenger vehicles.

9. Ok now we are really going off the rails. I honestly can’t make a connection between anything here and an electric motocross bike.

Amen. The dude ranting with his points clearly doesn't like Varg, so here's a pro tip; don't read about them, don't buy one=mission accomplished.

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2/23/2023 1:24am

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 Good look at the frame, battery and the motor cooling system. 

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2/23/2023 2:21am Edited Date/Time 2/23/2023 2:22am

That looks like a bizzy production line 

One man and a very blurred surroundings

im sure there ramp it up to meet all the pre orders 

 

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2/23/2023 3:31am

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 Are they waiting for a big number of bikes being ready before sending them out? By the looks of this photo, finished bikes should be rolling out

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2/23/2023 3:50am
keinz wrote:
Yup, it's me, and the VARG  

Yup, it's me, and the VARG

 

Is the 125cc 2-stroke ride mode on this photo enabled or is it the 80 cc version of Stark? Bike looks kind of small Smile

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2/23/2023 3:57am

So exciting. No matter what you take is on electric bikes, it will be cool to have another option and see how the technology performs in the hands of real customers. 

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2/23/2023 4:32am
Lastander wrote:
 Are they waiting for a big number of bikes being ready before sending them out? By the looks of this photo, finished bikes should be rolling...

597F3D71-0B0B-4520-870B-C24EDA283AEA

 Are they waiting for a big number of bikes being ready before sending them out? By the looks of this photo, finished bikes should be rolling out

It says 1/5

Do you have the other 4 photos?

2/23/2023 5:59am
Lastander wrote:
 Are they waiting for a big number of bikes being ready before sending them out? By the looks of this photo, finished bikes should be rolling...

597F3D71-0B0B-4520-870B-C24EDA283AEA

 Are they waiting for a big number of bikes being ready before sending them out? By the looks of this photo, finished bikes should be rolling out

That picture was already online when they had the official presentation.

 

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2/23/2023 6:03am

Photo is a year old.

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2/23/2023 6:20am

It is beginning to look more and more like a scam.

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2/23/2023 6:26am

turtleneck mails out a gift basket and a sorry note saying the bikes will be ready in 2026

Stark Future®

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2/23/2023 6:43am

Hey, don't forget this bike is called the Stark "Future" Varg. You'll get it in the future!

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2/23/2023 7:09am

Heard the throttle response had a delay they were struggling to fix. 

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2/23/2023 7:13am

In other news, Elizabeth Holmes, the EX CEO of Theranos has joined the Stark board...

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2/23/2023 8:34am
Lastander wrote:
 Are they waiting for a big number of bikes being ready before sending them out? By the looks of this photo, finished bikes should be rolling...

597F3D71-0B0B-4520-870B-C24EDA283AEA

 Are they waiting for a big number of bikes being ready before sending them out? By the looks of this photo, finished bikes should be rolling out

That picture was already online when they had the official presentation.

 

That is not great. Sort of reminds me of Canoo, but they are finally pushing to customers. 

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2/23/2023 9:41am
Goldmember wrote:

In other news, Elizabeth Holmes, the EX CEO of Theranos has joined the Stark board...

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2/23/2023 10:01am

When its first customer bike coming out? March/April was last word?

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2/23/2023 10:27am

Prototypes are easy, production is hard. 

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2/23/2023 11:16am

Curious here, why would they go AOS over SSS? I'd be closer to frothing if I saw it shared the same forks as the YZ's. 

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JK BRO
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2/23/2023 11:29am

That is literally the same size radiator used on trials bikes. Tucked under the seat and in front of the rear mud guard where it gets zero airflow. Those fans are insanely loud. The sound easily overtakes my TXT 300 while riding.

What's with the subframe? So many extra welds.

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2/23/2023 11:42am
rivvs wrote:

It is beginning to look more and more like a scam.

100% a assembly line in 1924 looks more organized. 

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2/23/2023 11:51am
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Photo is a year old.

That statement is just false. Wrong. A lie. However you want to call it...

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2/23/2023 11:58am
Goldmember wrote:

It says 1/5

Do you have the other 4 photos?

 

 

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2/23/2023 12:17pm
rivvs wrote:

It is beginning to look more and more like a scam.

100% a assembly line in 1924 looks more organized. 

I don't know about the 1920s but here's Honda in the 1940s.

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 Honda. 1979 Marysville, Ohio. CR250R.

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2/23/2023 1:01pm
Goldmember wrote:

In other news, Elizabeth Holmes, the EX CEO of Theranos has joined the Stark board...

What's wild about her documentary is they had all these powerful investors and supporters, but not 1 time did any of them ask to see the finished product. Same with STARK, where are the pictures of the finished bikes, there should be a storage room for finished bikes, right? 

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2/23/2023 1:13pm

Maybe it’s my Oklahoma country cowboy logic coming out, but how can you review something nobody has hands on or did I miss something.

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2/23/2023 2:04pm
wwdiii wrote:

Maybe it’s my Oklahoma country cowboy logic coming out, but how can you review something nobody has hands on or did I miss something.

Yes you missed the first post in this thread

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