Retired Pro’s that could still make a main

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Michael Heingartner 

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UpTiTe wrote:

The only retired riders that would have a chance are Dungey, RV, and maybe Canard, Tickle 

TeamGreen wrote:
If I had to guess which of those names could do it right now…? Tickle has been riding with El Hombre & appears to be the...

If I had to guess which of those names could do it right now…?

Tickle has been riding with El Hombre & appears to be the fastest he’s ever been: and, he’s in excellent shape. 

Yea, he still goes fast. 

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1/27/2023 3:07pm

make the main? Stew could podium 

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JLaw. 17-0!!!!!!

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1/27/2023 3:48pm

Andrew Short easily.

 

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1/27/2023 4:11pm

This thread makes Dungey's effort last summer really come to light. 

I know RV had Dungey's number more often than not when they were both in their primes, but RV got beat by Josh Varize in a 125 race a few years after he retired. Dunge took 5 years off and ran competitively with the best in the world outdoors. No reason he couldn't do it for 20+1 indoors, too. 

Dunge = retirement king

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After some time off, Justin Hill did well last week and it got me thinking.. Who could come off the couch and squeeze into a main...

After some time off, Justin Hill did well last week and it got me thinking..

Who could come off the couch and squeeze into a main event in the 450 class?

Brayton is an easy pick.. how about RV, Reedy, Dunge, Seeley, Alessi, anyone else I’m forgetting?

Reed was barley making mains 2 years ago and Alessi would probably be battling for the last transfer spot in a lcq.

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I'd be interested to know who everyone thinks is the OLDEST retired pro that could make a 450 main would be. Say with 3-6 months notice...

I'd be interested to know who everyone thinks is the OLDEST retired pro that could make a 450 main would be.

Say with 3-6 months notice. Mike Brown is still aggressive and isn't he 50 now? McGrath does still ride SX tracks for fun. 

I always enjoyed seeing Junkyard Dog mixing it up in the Nationals in his later years.

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Since I am just about the same age as McGrath, he is the one who I would love to see if he could do it.  I...

Since I am just about the same age as McGrath, he is the one who I would love to see if he could do it.  I still race regularly, I know my speed has fallen off (even though it feels like I'm going as fast as ever), but I still mostly feel good out there.  Obviously, I was never near the speed of McGrath.  But there are guys in my age class who are way faster than me.  Since McGrath appears to still be riding regularly, and even races from time to time.  I don't think it's impossible that he could do it, if he spent 6 weeks to get into shape for it.

 

In 2018, McGrath raced a District 37 GP.  Josh Grant was in the same race, at a time when Grant was still making supercross main events.  Lap times were about 5+ minutes, and McGrath was about 10 seconds off Grant's lap times.  Grant was qualifying in the ~15th range for Supercross.  If McGrath was 2 seconds off Grant's qualifying times that would put him in the range of guys like Carlen Gardner, Catanzaro, Ryan Breece, Tyler Enticknap, etc.

 

Here's the results for that GP: http://www.moto-tally.com/d37/gp/results.aspx/2018/8/O7/LT

Gp an sx is 2 completely different things and supercross now is completely different then McGraths era. Just like in 20 years Eli tomac will not even be close to making a main

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1/27/2023 4:19pm
BCA2010 wrote:

Reed was barley making mains 2 years ago and Alessi would probably be battling for the last transfer spot in a lcq.

"Barely" seems like a bit of an overstatement.  He made the main 10 out of 16 times from his heat.  He won 3 of the 6 LCQ's he went to and qualified 3 more times in top 3 LCQ. 

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BCA2010 wrote:

Reed was barley making mains 2 years ago and Alessi would probably be battling for the last transfer spot in a lcq.

RichieW13 wrote:
"Barely" seems like a bit of an overstatement.  He made the main 10 out of 16 times from his heat.  He won 3 of the 6...

"Barely" seems like a bit of an overstatement.  He made the main 10 out of 16 times from his heat.  He won 3 of the 6 LCQ's he went to and qualified 3 more times in top 3 LCQ. 

I think 2 years off without a gate drops will definitely keep him out. Maybe he trains an shows up every weekend like privateers he would sneak in 1

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1/27/2023 4:43pm Edited Date/Time 1/27/2023 4:59pm
BCA2010 wrote:

Reed was barley making mains 2 years ago and Alessi would probably be battling for the last transfer spot in a lcq.

RichieW13 wrote:
"Barely" seems like a bit of an overstatement.  He made the main 10 out of 16 times from his heat.  He won 3 of the 6...

"Barely" seems like a bit of an overstatement.  He made the main 10 out of 16 times from his heat.  He won 3 of the 6 LCQ's he went to and qualified 3 more times in top 3 LCQ. 

BCA2010 wrote:
I think 2 years off without a gate drops will definitely keep him out. Maybe he trains an shows up every weekend like privateers he would...

I think 2 years off without a gate drops will definitely keep him out. Maybe he trains an shows up every weekend like privateers he would sneak in 1

Reed’s last year of racing is not really a great example, as he was riding injured and not training.

However with a bit of training he was only 1.5s off Tomac and Roczen’s qualifying lap time at Cardiff just a few months ago. 
That well and truly puts him in the night show, but only if he’s fit and well prepared.

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After some time off, Justin Hill did well last week and it got me thinking.. Who could come off the couch and squeeze into a main...

After some time off, Justin Hill did well last week and it got me thinking..

Who could come off the couch and squeeze into a main event in the 450 class?

Brayton is an easy pick.. how about RV, Reedy, Dunge, Seeley, Alessi, anyone else I’m forgetting?

mbw479 wrote:

Rc 

This was his lap time at aus x open when he was fat rc..

6B4028D5-DE93-4E1F-856B-6083F9F5454F

 

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Crutcher wrote:
Jacob Hayes, Tyler Bowers, Kyle Regal, Jimmy Albertson, Matt Biscelgia, and all the other 30-35 year old dudes that are less than 10 years removed.   ...

Jacob Hayes, Tyler Bowers, Kyle Regal, Jimmy Albertson, Matt Biscelgia, and all the other 30-35 year old dudes that are less than 10 years removed. 
 

The talent doesn’t escape, the desire does. 

The last line is something MX sports doesn't understand for vet classes at the amateur national... Lol

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MC is 51. No chance. He has even said himself riding SX is not "fun" anymore and there is a lot of fear involved. He's my favorite rider of all time, but his time has passed.

Reed with 4 months of training would still qualify.

 

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You are all forgetting about Marty Davalos.....

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The bottom line is we need a senior tour to take up intermission time

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Crutcher wrote:
Jacob Hayes, Tyler Bowers, Kyle Regal, Jimmy Albertson, Matt Biscelgia, and all the other 30-35 year old dudes that are less than 10 years removed.   ...

Jacob Hayes, Tyler Bowers, Kyle Regal, Jimmy Albertson, Matt Biscelgia, and all the other 30-35 year old dudes that are less than 10 years removed. 
 

The talent doesn’t escape, the desire does. 

Meister wrote:

The last line is something MX sports doesn't understand for vet classes at the amateur national... Lol

Dumbest argument of the day.  They literally have vet 30+ and 45+ classes former pros who scored points cannot compete in, yet somehow that just escapes some people.  

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1/27/2023 8:22pm
UpTiTe wrote:

The only retired riders that would have a chance are Dungey, RV, and maybe Canard, Tickle 

TeamGreen wrote:
If I had to guess which of those names could do it right now…? Tickle has been riding with El Hombre & appears to be the...

If I had to guess which of those names could do it right now…?

Tickle has been riding with El Hombre & appears to be the fastest he’s ever been: and, he’s in excellent shape. 

UpTiTe wrote:

Yea, he still goes fast. 

I guess he’s happy doing what he’s doing but it’s a shame that he isn’t racing anymore, considering  his current apparent speed.  Wish Kawi would have let him fill in some last year.

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1/27/2023 9:33pm

Lot of guys in here vastly overestimating how fast their hero/favorite rider is/was compared to how fast 14-22 place riders are nowadays. The list of retired guys that could even make the night show is very short and the list of those guys who could realistically make the main is about 2-3.

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1/27/2023 10:33pm
UpTiTe wrote:

The only retired riders that would have a chance are Dungey, RV, and maybe Canard, Tickle 

TeamGreen wrote:
If I had to guess which of those names could do it right now…? Tickle has been riding with El Hombre & appears to be the...

If I had to guess which of those names could do it right now…?

Tickle has been riding with El Hombre & appears to be the fastest he’s ever been: and, he’s in excellent shape. 

I would add Hot Sauce for the same reason.

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I didn’t bother reading this after the first few comments.  People are delusional at some of the names being thrown out there.  What a slap in the face to today’s riders.  Look at the guys in 10th-15th today.  We saw Reed running in 13th consistently his last full year.  That was how many years ago?  Yes James Stewart would podium…..holy shit.

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1/28/2023 7:44am Edited Date/Time 1/28/2023 7:45am

James Stewart

Broc Tickle

Ryan Dungey

Andrew Short

Ryan Villopoto

Trey Canard

Tyler Bowers

Mike Alessi (Well...)

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1/28/2023 7:55am
UpTiTe wrote:

The only retired riders that would have a chance are Dungey, RV, and maybe Canard, Tickle 

TeamGreen wrote:
If I had to guess which of those names could do it right now…? Tickle has been riding with El Hombre & appears to be the...

If I had to guess which of those names could do it right now…?

Tickle has been riding with El Hombre & appears to be the fastest he’s ever been: and, he’s in excellent shape. 

Sully wrote:

I would add Hot Sauce for the same reason.

Yes , he s riding good and in shape
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1/28/2023 8:04am

This list is short

Dunge

canard

tickle

Osborne

possibly Davalos, Reed, grant

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Throw baggett on the list above. 

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1/28/2023 9:15am
Crutcher wrote:
Jacob Hayes, Tyler Bowers, Kyle Regal, Jimmy Albertson, Matt Biscelgia, and all the other 30-35 year old dudes that are less than 10 years removed.   ...

Jacob Hayes, Tyler Bowers, Kyle Regal, Jimmy Albertson, Matt Biscelgia, and all the other 30-35 year old dudes that are less than 10 years removed. 
 

The talent doesn’t escape, the desire does. 

Albertson was barely making mains when he wasn't retired. 

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1/28/2023 9:46am Edited Date/Time 1/28/2023 9:47am

Dunge, Canard and Villo

 

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1/28/2023 9:54am
stantdm wrote:

Andrew Short easily.

 

No idea why you’d get downvoted on this? Andrew still rides his ASS OFF & is in great shape. If he spent a coupl’a months training for it, he’d make the main. 

No worries, haters are gonna hate. Laughing (that was jus’ a joke) 

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stantdm wrote:

Andrew Short easily.

 

TeamGreen wrote:
No idea why you’d get downvoted on this? Andrew still rides his ASS OFF & is in great shape. If he spent a coupl’a months training...

No idea why you’d get downvoted on this? Andrew still rides his ASS OFF & is in great shape. If he spent a coupl’a months training for it, he’d make the main. 

No worries, haters are gonna hate. Laughing (that was jus’ a joke) 

To be fair the question wasn't which retired pro could make a main event if they trained for X amount of time. I'm sure plenty of them could if they had the time to get back in shape and get some laps under them. 

The OP asked which retired pro could make a main event coming off the couch. 

I don't think Shorty would make the main event if he lined up tonight or next week. 

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