Another Roczen IG Blowup

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1/25/2023 11:44am
Spoonguy wrote:
Since Roczen has been 16 he has been employed to win, his standard of pay dictates that. Nobody has hired him to get 4th or 5th...

Since Roczen has been 16 he has been employed to win, his standard of pay dictates that. Nobody has hired him to get 4th or 5th. He is not paid like a 4th or 5th place rider. Nobody has hired him to "do the best you can, we need more testing, or we understand your past injuries." His placings are commendable considering the circumstances, but it is not what is expected of him. I would be certain he isn't expecting 4th or 5th is great either. 

What’s HEP paying him? You think he’s getting paid what Eli and Chase are? I doubt it. Those guys are expected to win. HEP didn’t hire Roczen thinking they had the magic potion to turn his career around and become a consistent title threat. 

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1/25/2023 12:18pm

Karen Roczen. Sheesh! 

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1/25/2023 1:26pm
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I wish Tyler showed up in those IG comments to defend Kenny...  

His mom would be even better. 

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1/25/2023 2:10pm
Spoonguy wrote:
Since Roczen has been 16 he has been employed to win, his standard of pay dictates that. Nobody has hired him to get 4th or 5th...

Since Roczen has been 16 he has been employed to win, his standard of pay dictates that. Nobody has hired him to get 4th or 5th. He is not paid like a 4th or 5th place rider. Nobody has hired him to "do the best you can, we need more testing, or we understand your past injuries." His placings are commendable considering the circumstances, but it is not what is expected of him. I would be certain he isn't expecting 4th or 5th is great either. 

seth505 wrote:
So you believe that HEP and Kenny signed a contract going in thinking "unless we beat Tomac every weekend, this will be a failure"?  Come on...

So you believe that HEP and Kenny signed a contract going in thinking "unless we beat Tomac every weekend, this will be a failure"?  Come on spoondude.

I didn't say that at all.

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1/25/2023 3:11pm

He Should hire Butters... It did wonders to Cartman. 

Also isn´t what the IG guy said is almost the same that Bubba said recently on the podcast??? Is James an idiot? I didn´t see the comment as something negative...

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1/25/2023 3:58pm Edited Date/Time 1/25/2023 4:00pm
He may have read the post, but he clearly hasn't been paying attention to the sport or Kenny the last few years, if he thinks he'll...

He may have read the post, but he clearly hasn't been paying attention to the sport or Kenny the last few years, if he thinks he'll have "a win or two with some podiums by THE END OF THE SEASON"

If history is any indication, the results Kenny is getting right now are the best results he'll get all year.

The fact he's on a brand new to him bike might be helping his results, as he hasn't had the chance to go down a huge testing rabbit hole. Just listen to the guys who'd KNOW...RC has said he was incredibly difficult to work with on the testing side, and clearly it's more of the same now. He's changed suspension brands already. 

As much as I talk crap about Kenny, I don't want to see him not do well on the track. I'm definitely not a fan anymore due to his weirdo interviews and social media BS, but I absolutely respect his talent and drive and hope he breaks the pattern this year. 

My entire point is I don't see how mentally he CAN break that pattern if he's already clearly uncomfortable with the bike and is so triggered by a random dude on Instagram. Not a sign things are changing for the better. 

“If history is any indication….” Unless you define history as last year, your theory that he can’t get good results late in the season is factually incorrect.

I suggest you go have a look at his actual results. Hint: Roczen has plenty of podiums and wins in the second half of the season. 

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1/25/2023 4:14pm
CPR wrote:
“If history is any indication….” Unless you define history as last year, your theory that he can’t get good results late in the season is factually...

“If history is any indication….” Unless you define history as last year, your theory that he can’t get good results late in the season is factually incorrect.

I suggest you go have a look at his actual results. Hint: Roczen has plenty of podiums and wins in the second half of the season. 

How dare I use the most recent history as an example. I apologize. 

Fact is we are NOT talking about 2016 Roczen. That's the whole point.

Whatever the reason is, he will decline as the season goes on. I hope he doesn't, but a smart betting man would take that bet...

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1/25/2023 4:30pm
b8res wrote:

Some of you have entirely too much time on your hands....

We’re positing on a message board based around a niche sport. We ALL have too much time on our hands. 

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1/25/2023 5:09pm
CPR wrote:
“If history is any indication….” Unless you define history as last year, your theory that he can’t get good results late in the season is factually...

“If history is any indication….” Unless you define history as last year, your theory that he can’t get good results late in the season is factually incorrect.

I suggest you go have a look at his actual results. Hint: Roczen has plenty of podiums and wins in the second half of the season. 

How dare I use the most recent history as an example. I apologize.  Fact is we are NOT talking about 2016 Roczen. That's the whole point...

How dare I use the most recent history as an example. I apologize. 

Fact is we are NOT talking about 2016 Roczen. That's the whole point.

Whatever the reason is, he will decline as the season goes on. I hope he doesn't, but a smart betting man would take that bet...

Not talking about 2016, you only need to go back to 2021.

I’m only pointing out that you chose to ridicule someone else for not paying attention to Roczen’s results in recent years.

Surely you see the irony in that?

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1/25/2023 5:14pm
CPR wrote:
Not talking about 2016, you only need to go back to 2021. I’m only pointing out that you chose to ridicule someone else for not paying...

Not talking about 2016, you only need to go back to 2021.

I’m only pointing out that you chose to ridicule someone else for not paying attention to Roczen’s results in recent years.

Surely you see the irony in that?

Surely you also see I didn't say he CAN'T get results later in the season, but that he won't.

So you're saying he will get better results toward the end of the season?

Go ahead and pick one small point I made and continue, Kenny's head is clearly elsewhere if he's giving randoms on his Instagram that much attention.

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1/25/2023 5:14pm Edited Date/Time 1/25/2023 5:16pm
mxrose3 wrote:
Ranger83 was telling him what and what not to do.    Ken was telling him to STFU and sit back down on the couch.    Can't...

Ranger83 was telling him what and what not to do.    Ken was telling him to STFU and sit back down on the couch.    Can't say i blame him.

Kenny absolutely knows what to do and what not to do. He also has every right to tell someone to sit down and stfu…..

 

Thaaat being said SHOULD he really be arguing in the internet comment sections with random ass nobodys? Absolutely not.
Its one of those things where its always a lose lose situation no matter what. Even if hes right, it doesnt matter because at the end of the day youre a pro athlete arguing with bob the toilet repair man in the instagram comments. Even if you win you still lose.
 

These guys know better. 

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1/25/2023 5:37pm

Post and ghost. Never read the comments.

 

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1/26/2023 3:59am Edited Date/Time 1/26/2023 4:00am
Spoonguy wrote:

An arrogant German? Never heard of such a thing. It would be like saying obsolete Suzuki.

Putting labels on people based on their birthplace tips the scales of stupidity.

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1/26/2023 5:51am
stremme12 wrote:
I'm surprised everyone in here is ignoring the fact that profeshenal was once a basketball star and possibly played in the NBA if he was such...

I'm surprised everyone in here is ignoring the fact that profeshenal was once a basketball star and possibly played in the NBA if he was such a thing. Mark that as something I would have never expected. 

With a high of 73 in vertical usually 63-68. Us Indians r connected to the Spirits of the Sky World. 8th grade I could get my bicep on the rim. I,m literally the son of a bitch my mom always said since I was 4 that my late uncle was such a great athlete etc. I became her enemy with all the attention. With a guilt trip that I couldn’t stay with the athletic director,s house mon- Fri. Because I had to protect her from my dad with my loaded shotgun. I had a contract at 15 to play in Europe for 250k. Recruited by numerous colleges was cool. Nothing compares to being in a d1 empty field house. With recruiters , staff saying you,ll hv this place come alive show them what you got and you,ll be worshipped and Loved forever. 

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1/26/2023 6:17am
stremme12 wrote:
I'm surprised everyone in here is ignoring the fact that profeshenal was once a basketball star and possibly played in the NBA if he was such...

I'm surprised everyone in here is ignoring the fact that profeshenal was once a basketball star and possibly played in the NBA if he was such a thing. Mark that as something I would have never expected. 

With a high of 73 in vertical usually 63-68. Us Indians r connected to the Spirits of the Sky World. 8th grade I could get my...

With a high of 73 in vertical usually 63-68. Us Indians r connected to the Spirits of the Sky World. 8th grade I could get my bicep on the rim. I,m literally the son of a bitch my mom always said since I was 4 that my late uncle was such a great athlete etc. I became her enemy with all the attention. With a guilt trip that I couldn’t stay with the athletic director,s house mon- Fri. Because I had to protect her from my dad with my loaded shotgun. I had a contract at 15 to play in Europe for 250k. Recruited by numerous colleges was cool. Nothing compares to being in a d1 empty field house. With recruiters , staff saying you,ll hv this place come alive show them what you got and you,ll be worshipped and Loved forever. 

Dude, sober up. 

Highest NBA vert is 48”……..

Stop being a caricature. 

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1/26/2023 6:21am
stremme12 wrote:
I'm surprised everyone in here is ignoring the fact that profeshenal was once a basketball star and possibly played in the NBA if he was such...

I'm surprised everyone in here is ignoring the fact that profeshenal was once a basketball star and possibly played in the NBA if he was such a thing. Mark that as something I would have never expected. 

With a high of 73 in vertical usually 63-68. Us Indians r connected to the Spirits of the Sky World. 8th grade I could get my...

With a high of 73 in vertical usually 63-68. Us Indians r connected to the Spirits of the Sky World. 8th grade I could get my bicep on the rim. I,m literally the son of a bitch my mom always said since I was 4 that my late uncle was such a great athlete etc. I became her enemy with all the attention. With a guilt trip that I couldn’t stay with the athletic director,s house mon- Fri. Because I had to protect her from my dad with my loaded shotgun. I had a contract at 15 to play in Europe for 250k. Recruited by numerous colleges was cool. Nothing compares to being in a d1 empty field house. With recruiters , staff saying you,ll hv this place come alive show them what you got and you,ll be worshipped and Loved forever. 

This reads like a 2002 version of artificial intelligence trying to write a story of a basketball phenom with childhood adversity.  

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1/26/2023 6:27am
stremme12 wrote:
I'm surprised everyone in here is ignoring the fact that profeshenal was once a basketball star and possibly played in the NBA if he was such...

I'm surprised everyone in here is ignoring the fact that profeshenal was once a basketball star and possibly played in the NBA if he was such a thing. Mark that as something I would have never expected. 

With a high of 73 in vertical usually 63-68. Us Indians r connected to the Spirits of the Sky World. 8th grade I could get my...

With a high of 73 in vertical usually 63-68. Us Indians r connected to the Spirits of the Sky World. 8th grade I could get my bicep on the rim. I,m literally the son of a bitch my mom always said since I was 4 that my late uncle was such a great athlete etc. I became her enemy with all the attention. With a guilt trip that I couldn’t stay with the athletic director,s house mon- Fri. Because I had to protect her from my dad with my loaded shotgun. I had a contract at 15 to play in Europe for 250k. Recruited by numerous colleges was cool. Nothing compares to being in a d1 empty field house. With recruiters , staff saying you,ll hv this place come alive show them what you got and you,ll be worshipped and Loved forever. 

APLMAN99 wrote:

Dude, sober up. 

Highest NBA vert is 48”……..

Stop being a caricature. 

There’s another legend from nyc that shot a 73& could take a quarter off the top of a backboard. The most athletic players don’t play in the nba there not coachable . 

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1/26/2023 6:31am
With a high of 73 in vertical usually 63-68. Us Indians r connected to the Spirits of the Sky World. 8th grade I could get my...

With a high of 73 in vertical usually 63-68. Us Indians r connected to the Spirits of the Sky World. 8th grade I could get my bicep on the rim. I,m literally the son of a bitch my mom always said since I was 4 that my late uncle was such a great athlete etc. I became her enemy with all the attention. With a guilt trip that I couldn’t stay with the athletic director,s house mon- Fri. Because I had to protect her from my dad with my loaded shotgun. I had a contract at 15 to play in Europe for 250k. Recruited by numerous colleges was cool. Nothing compares to being in a d1 empty field house. With recruiters , staff saying you,ll hv this place come alive show them what you got and you,ll be worshipped and Loved forever. 

APLMAN99 wrote:

Dude, sober up. 

Highest NBA vert is 48”……..

Stop being a caricature. 

There’s another legend from nyc that shot a 73& could take a quarter off the top of a backboard. The most athletic players don’t play in...

There’s another legend from nyc that shot a 73& could take a quarter off the top of a backboard. The most athletic players don’t play in the nba there not coachable . 

Do you eat a lot of pills? 

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1/26/2023 9:28am
stremme12 wrote:
I'm surprised everyone in here is ignoring the fact that profeshenal was once a basketball star and possibly played in the NBA if he was such...

I'm surprised everyone in here is ignoring the fact that profeshenal was once a basketball star and possibly played in the NBA if he was such a thing. Mark that as something I would have never expected. 

With a high of 73 in vertical usually 63-68. Us Indians r connected to the Spirits of the Sky World. 8th grade I could get my...

With a high of 73 in vertical usually 63-68. Us Indians r connected to the Spirits of the Sky World. 8th grade I could get my bicep on the rim. I,m literally the son of a bitch my mom always said since I was 4 that my late uncle was such a great athlete etc. I became her enemy with all the attention. With a guilt trip that I couldn’t stay with the athletic director,s house mon- Fri. Because I had to protect her from my dad with my loaded shotgun. I had a contract at 15 to play in Europe for 250k. Recruited by numerous colleges was cool. Nothing compares to being in a d1 empty field house. With recruiters , staff saying you,ll hv this place come alive show them what you got and you,ll be worshipped and Loved forever. 

HazemG wrote:

This reads like a 2002 version of artificial intelligence trying to write a story of a basketball phenom with childhood adversity.  

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