Sexton to KTM confirmed?

11/30/2022 5:05pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:

Ping talking about childish name calling. That's rich. 

Man I'm with you. Ping is teetering on the deep end, or maybe he's already gone off the edge.

I don't see this expanding his brand, quite the contrary. Too bad, at one point he had a pretty good thing going....

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11/30/2022 5:09pm

I guess this is why Ping isn't getting a press credential

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11/30/2022 5:11pm

Ping is a dickhead. It was funny when he co hosted pulp but once he started his own gig you could really see it. Not a fan

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11/30/2022 5:18pm

Remember all of those times when agents and media from mainstream sports went at it in IG comments? Yeah me neither.

As much as I love this sport, sometimes we are reminded how bush league it is.

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11/30/2022 5:28pm
Flatliner wrote:
Moto guys are lucky they don't treat them like wada does the ufc guys.  Show up anytime anywhere and take urine or blood ,  no refusals...

Moto guys are lucky they don't treat them like wada does the ufc guys.  Show up anytime anywhere and take urine or blood ,  no refusals.

I enjoy ping, his bike reviews done with both racer x and vital are solid.

-MAVERICK- wrote:

I believe both Anderson and Roczen have had people randomly show up at their place to test them in the past. 

I don’t know if SX/MX guys have to do this, but in some other sports (like cycling, track & field) the elite athletes have to provide their overnight location and also a 1 hour daily whereabout window where they have to be available for testing. 

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11/30/2022 5:30pm
McG194 wrote:
No idea what is so hard to understand. It's agent doublespeak.  By all rights I wouldn't let them test Kenny either, it's a no win situation...

No idea what is so hard to understand. It's agent doublespeak. 

By all rights I wouldn't let them test Kenny either, it's a no win situation. FIM has proved to be less than fair with US based racers and nothing good could come of the test. 

"Piss in the cup" 

"Nope, you shit in a hat." 

Pretty sure they are subject to the same rules out of competition as in competition.  MX just doesn't see as many out of competition tests as say, cycling.

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11/30/2022 5:32pm
Flatliner wrote:
Moto guys are lucky they don't treat them like wada does the ufc guys.  Show up anytime anywhere and take urine or blood ,  no refusals...

Moto guys are lucky they don't treat them like wada does the ufc guys.  Show up anytime anywhere and take urine or blood ,  no refusals.

I enjoy ping, his bike reviews done with both racer x and vital are solid.

Wonder why they don't just park outside Sean O'Malley's place, wait for him to go live on you tube, then go knock on the door Laughing

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11/30/2022 5:35pm

I think Honda has used all their budget on Jett. 
 

not sure how Sexton will go at Aldons Prison?!

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11/30/2022 5:38pm
I like Ping and ML, so won't get into that, but on the drug testing thing I'll weigh in with my .02.  I can see both...

I like Ping and ML, so won't get into that, but on the drug testing thing I'll weigh in with my .02. 

I can see both sides, where on the one hand an athlete's entire career can be unfairly tarnished over a b.s. test that isn't administered correctly, but on the other an athlete could be gaming the system. 

I think it's pretty easy to defeat tests if you're a cheater and you're relatively intelligent (and understand how to cycle correctly).  I think Ping overstepped here a little bit, but I also think Astephan did KR no favors.  I also think it's slightly amusing how folks sometimes seem so "certain" that a rider is or isn't cheating, and no evidence either way can convince them otherwise.  

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I think a rider getting  off the track after 30 minutes at 180 bpm not breathing hard is a pretty solid indication.     I think riders...

I think a rider getting  off the track after 30 minutes at 180 bpm not breathing hard is a pretty solid indication. 
 

 I think riders that have used the same trainer having ibs, stomach problems,  and continues signs of food poisoning is a pretty solid indication. 

You gotta be out of shape and/or old.

The few minutes between the finish line and pits is PLENTY of time for these guys to get their heart rates down and be able to be coherent. No way you need PEDs for this lol.

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11/30/2022 5:42pm

Not a Ping fan.

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11/30/2022 5:44pm

Okay, I re-read through the initial post and replies and I don’t think there ever was a KTM drug test that was refused like some in here are suggesting. However, I can see where people may come to that conclusion based on what Ping’s initial comment implies.

”We've also been told that the KTM group had @kenroczen94 in their sights, but have moved on to other prospects after his refusal to submit to drug testing after the final round of WSX.”

Steve comes into the comments and says “We did the test and all good.” “The reason we refused … is to make sure proper protocol is followed.” “Ken Roczen never refused, I did…”

 

Ping goes: “So you took the test or refused? You’ve just claimed both.”

Here’s where Ping starts to not back away from understanding that both statements can be true because they initially said no but ultimately still took the test.

Steve goes: “We did the test. Let’s go on a podcast to discuss this further.”

Ping: “Are you drinking? What did we say that wasn’t accurate? If we’re wrong, let me now. Otherwise piss off.”

Steve: “Inaccurate is we refused to take a test. Period we took the test. I just challenged protocol and process.”

Ping goes on to not understand both statements can be true again by saying: “@steve_astephen "the reason we
refused.." yet "we submitted" One things for sure, you're not doing a very good job representing your clients side of the story”

Ping today: “Steve stated they refused the test right before deleting his contradictory statements! Now they look even more suspect.”

Steve: “you’re taking things out of context.”

Ping: “You’re making contradictory statements and can’t keep your facts straight!”

Steve: “He did get tested and he did take the test.”

So to people asking “Where’s the clickbait?” I believe it’s the part where Ping says KTM decided to pass on Roczen for refusing to take a drug test. Roczen appears to have taken every drug test he’s needed to, his agent just initially put up a stink due the the FIM doing their goofy shit again before Ken took the test. 

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MO 23 wrote:
Remember all of those times when agents and media from mainstream sports went at it in IG comments? Yeah me neither. As much as I love...

Remember all of those times when agents and media from mainstream sports went at it in IG comments? Yeah me neither.

As much as I love this sport, sometimes we are reminded how bush league it is.

Astephen has been an agent for over 20 years with athletes in lots of pro sports and other fields. It's really surprising he went at it on Instagram like this.

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11/30/2022 6:13pm
aeffertz wrote:
  Looks like we get the full story tomorrow! Ping still popping off like an unhinged conspiracy nut in the comments on both of his accounts...

 

Looks like we get the full story tomorrow! Ping still popping off like an unhinged conspiracy nut in the comments on both of his accounts. Grinning

Ping sounds like either an idiot or an asshole. I’m thinking asshole because surely he’s not as dumb as these comments seem. Saying he initially refused but later took the test is obviously not contradictory. 

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11/30/2022 6:19pm

No one in here actually think athletes in other sports aren't on PEDs right? NFL players are super soldiers for Christ's sake. 

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11/30/2022 6:37pm
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Ping has always been a bitter asshole. I've never been able to stand the guy, dude buys into some ridiculous shit.  His sarcasm just screams insecurity. ...

Ping has always been a bitter asshole. I've never been able to stand the guy, dude buys into some ridiculous shit. 

His sarcasm just screams insecurity. 

And his feud with Matthes says a lot about him. I'm sure we all have friends on both sides of the political spectrum (I sure do), and we're able to set those differences aside, and just not discuss it. We all know where Matthes stands, though he rarely brings it up. Ping always has to slide in quick little smart ass political quips, and it doesn't matter if I agree with him, it still comes off as completely immature and out of place.

 

Most fire departments were trying to force their employees to get the jab. Nurses and firefighters/first responders were being fired for not getting the vaccine that didn’t end up working. Sometimes when your career of over 20 years( I know Ping wasn’t a firefighter for 20 years) is being held over your family it gets a LITTLE political. He more than likely found the social experiment controversial and political and that carried over into his viewpoints. I know it did in my family.  My unvaccinated RN wife was such a health hazard that she should be fired by October 2021, but a simple religious exemption allowed her to still work and care for patients, huge health risk for patients ALLEGEDLY. 

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11/30/2022 6:46pm
tyler113 wrote:
Ping has always been a bitter asshole. I've never been able to stand the guy, dude buys into some ridiculous shit.  His sarcasm just screams insecurity. ...

Ping has always been a bitter asshole. I've never been able to stand the guy, dude buys into some ridiculous shit. 

His sarcasm just screams insecurity. 

And his feud with Matthes says a lot about him. I'm sure we all have friends on both sides of the political spectrum (I sure do), and we're able to set those differences aside, and just not discuss it. We all know where Matthes stands, though he rarely brings it up. Ping always has to slide in quick little smart ass political quips, and it doesn't matter if I agree with him, it still comes off as completely immature and out of place.

 

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Most fire departments were trying to force their employees to get the jab. Nurses and firefighters/first responders were being fired for not getting the vaccine that...

Most fire departments were trying to force their employees to get the jab. Nurses and firefighters/first responders were being fired for not getting the vaccine that didn’t end up working. Sometimes when your career of over 20 years( I know Ping wasn’t a firefighter for 20 years) is being held over your family it gets a LITTLE political. He more than likely found the social experiment controversial and political and that carried over into his viewpoints. I know it did in my family.  My unvaccinated RN wife was such a health hazard that she should be fired by October 2021, but a simple religious exemption allowed her to still work and care for patients, huge health risk for patients ALLEGEDLY. 

Congrats on surviving the biggest psychological warfare exercise in american history. We made it.

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11/30/2022 6:53pm

Please do not bring your conspiracy theory bs into this thread 🤢

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Please do not bring your conspiracy theory bs into this thread 🤢

but bro... what about the amnesty? 

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11/30/2022 7:04pm
Flatliner wrote:
Moto guys are lucky they don't treat them like wada does the ufc guys.  Show up anytime anywhere and take urine or blood ,  no refusals...

Moto guys are lucky they don't treat them like wada does the ufc guys.  Show up anytime anywhere and take urine or blood ,  no refusals.

I enjoy ping, his bike reviews done with both racer x and vital are solid.

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I believe both Anderson and Roczen have had people randomly show up at their place to test them in the past. 

The "where-abouts" program. Where WADA can test you outside of competition, at random, multiple times a year by just showing up at your house. You have to give WADA a schedule every two weeks or roughly where you'll be. They show up and if you're not at your described location within a certain time-frame, they leave and you get a point against the program. Get three points and you're automatically sanctioned / penalized.

From what I heard, there was usually two riders a year selected for the program. I believe these riders have been on it and there's more I'm not aware of.

Chad Reed

Ryan Villopoto (he's mentioned almost getting sanctioned for not being somewhere on time)

Jason Anderson

Ryan Dungey

Trey Canard

Andrew Short

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11/30/2022 7:05pm
yak651 wrote:

Well with Uptite, only if it involves Aldon

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Aldon wouldn’t be the only one who uses PEDs 

Pretty amazing this sport has been able to cover up an alleged PED ring for 20 years - not even Lance had that much pull.  ...

Pretty amazing this sport has been able to cover up an alleged PED ring for 20 years - not even Lance had that much pull.

 

Ped ring? Who said there was a ped ring? 
 

 But what’s more amazing, is how slightly pudgy average dudes with zero athletic abilities become world class endurance athletes. 

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11/30/2022 7:05pm

Didn't this start out as a Sexton to KTM thread?

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11/30/2022 7:12pm

A few things here.

On Ping. There's two Pings. There's WTS Ping, which he's quite good at and we like that Ping. Then there's middle school mean girl clique Ping, the Moto version of a Valley Girl from Florida, that's the irritating Ping. Sometimes Ping forgets where he is and goes into the wrong role.

Honda. Honda lives in the future. They'll gladly trade a Championship today for a possible Championship in the future.

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11/30/2022 7:13pm
UpTiTe wrote:

Aldon wouldn’t be the only one who uses PEDs 

Pretty amazing this sport has been able to cover up an alleged PED ring for 20 years - not even Lance had that much pull.  ...

Pretty amazing this sport has been able to cover up an alleged PED ring for 20 years - not even Lance had that much pull.

 

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Ped ring? Who said there was a ped ring?     But what’s more amazing, is how slightly pudgy average dudes with zero athletic abilities become world...

Ped ring? Who said there was a ped ring? 
 

 But what’s more amazing, is how slightly pudgy average dudes with zero athletic abilities become world class endurance athletes. 

Even more interesting that KTM would require pre employment testing before sending their investments down to Aldons Alleged PED Farm. Wild story, big if true. 

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11/30/2022 7:39pm
Pretty amazing this sport has been able to cover up an alleged PED ring for 20 years - not even Lance had that much pull.  ...

Pretty amazing this sport has been able to cover up an alleged PED ring for 20 years - not even Lance had that much pull.

 

UpTiTe wrote:
Ped ring? Who said there was a ped ring?     But what’s more amazing, is how slightly pudgy average dudes with zero athletic abilities become world...

Ped ring? Who said there was a ped ring? 
 

 But what’s more amazing, is how slightly pudgy average dudes with zero athletic abilities become world class endurance athletes. 

Even more interesting that KTM would require pre employment testing before sending their investments down to Aldons Alleged PED Farm. Wild story, big if true. 

Interesting that you believe that. 

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11/30/2022 7:44pm

Sexton has been so superb on the Honda, the switch isn’t something I expected. Was it known early on he might leave HRC? How much does this have to do with Lawrence being the presumed future of the brand? Then again, with Sexton as successful as he’s been, who’s to say even Lawrence would stay after the first couple years. Honda made a mistake losing Chase imo.

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11/30/2022 7:50pm

Maybe no one likes the new hondas?

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11/30/2022 8:10pm
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Okay, I re-read through the initial post and replies and I don’t think there ever was a KTM drug test that was refused like some in...

Okay, I re-read through the initial post and replies and I don’t think there ever was a KTM drug test that was refused like some in here are suggesting. However, I can see where people may come to that conclusion based on what Ping’s initial comment implies.

”We've also been told that the KTM group had @kenroczen94 in their sights, but have moved on to other prospects after his refusal to submit to drug testing after the final round of WSX.”

Steve comes into the comments and says “We did the test and all good.” “The reason we refused … is to make sure proper protocol is followed.” “Ken Roczen never refused, I did…”

 

Ping goes: “So you took the test or refused? You’ve just claimed both.”

Here’s where Ping starts to not back away from understanding that both statements can be true because they initially said no but ultimately still took the test.

Steve goes: “We did the test. Let’s go on a podcast to discuss this further.”

Ping: “Are you drinking? What did we say that wasn’t accurate? If we’re wrong, let me now. Otherwise piss off.”

Steve: “Inaccurate is we refused to take a test. Period we took the test. I just challenged protocol and process.”

Ping goes on to not understand both statements can be true again by saying: “@steve_astephen "the reason we
refused.." yet "we submitted" One things for sure, you're not doing a very good job representing your clients side of the story”

Ping today: “Steve stated they refused the test right before deleting his contradictory statements! Now they look even more suspect.”

Steve: “you’re taking things out of context.”

Ping: “You’re making contradictory statements and can’t keep your facts straight!”

Steve: “He did get tested and he did take the test.”

So to people asking “Where’s the clickbait?” I believe it’s the part where Ping says KTM decided to pass on Roczen for refusing to take a drug test. Roczen appears to have taken every drug test he’s needed to, his agent just initially put up a stink due the the FIM doing their goofy shit again before Ken took the test. 

Thanks for the translation. I feel like I showed up a party after everyone was hammered and were arguing about something. Meanwhile I am still sober trying to piece together wtf this incoherent rambling argument is about. 

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11/30/2022 8:24pm

Noone has asked the real question here....

Does ping have Doc-u-men-tation?

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11/30/2022 8:33pm
A few things here. On Ping. There's two Pings. There's WTS Ping, which he's quite good at and we like that Ping. Then there's middle school...

A few things here.

On Ping. There's two Pings. There's WTS Ping, which he's quite good at and we like that Ping. Then there's middle school mean girl clique Ping, the Moto version of a Valley Girl from Florida, that's the irritating Ping. Sometimes Ping forgets where he is and goes into the wrong role.

Honda. Honda lives in the future. They'll gladly trade a Championship today for a possible Championship in the future.

I've lived in Florida since 2005, if there is a valley no one ever told me about it. 

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11/30/2022 10:12pm
Sexton has been so superb on the Honda, the switch isn’t something I expected. Was it known early on he might leave HRC? How much does...

Sexton has been so superb on the Honda, the switch isn’t something I expected. Was it known early on he might leave HRC? How much does this have to do with Lawrence being the presumed future of the brand? Then again, with Sexton as successful as he’s been, who’s to say even Lawrence would stay after the first couple years. Honda made a mistake losing Chase imo.

Exactly. I give 2 shits about al the other drama. My mind is blown that, from what it sounds like, HRC is just going to let Chase walk? There has be something else going on behind the scenes that is being kept on the down low if that's the case. Jett might or might not be the future, but Chase is the now. It doesn't make a bit of sense to me. I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. Also how is this info being leaked a month prior to the season starting? It's just baffling to me. 

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