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Look, I get that people want these bikes to be able to eliminate the noise problem in some places. That's wishful thinking....because once the noise is abated, they'll be coming after bikes for destruction of the environment.
As they have been doing for decades here in California.
For me, the sport will have deviated too far from what it was for me to continue being interested.
Honestly, I don't really like 4-strokes either, but at least you get all the sensory input of the racing.
Man...I wish this board had a multi-quote so we didn't have to do multiple posts when responding to multiple people....ML...you listening?
By that, listen to the noise of the wheel(s) slamming into the Whoops, and some jump landings. It's Not that the Stark Vargs suspension is noisy - it's what goes on with every bike.
Then, give thought to that with 20 / 22 bikes out there.
It Will be different, and it may well sound "like ass" to many, but people, especially the casual, non riding spectators, might (finally) 'get' the brutality to both Machine and Man that a track delivers. Cripes, the blood thirsty arseholes among them will be able to hear the broken bones, snapping of ligaments, and the screams of pain of the injured - sadly, when I look around me at SX races, I see far too many people like that.
And, you'll have the noise of the E motors, too. Hell, by the time - and it Will be a long time - that they are all E bikes out there, most of we ICE riders will be dead and buried. Already, I think the vast majority of youngsters relate far more to the "Ty Fighter / Video Game" sounds than an ICE engine.
Me, I'll keep my ICE Bikes, forever, especially my 500 2T, but I look forward to when we have The Major Companies make full on, non Foo Foo E Dirt Bikes. As I've written many times, I feel Stark doing a Real, High End Competition level E bike, at what is a reasonable price, will force the Major Manufacturers to pull their bloody fingers out, and make an E Bike I want to buy.
As for those so butt hurt by the thought of E Bikes that the sport will be "dead to them" - fair enough, enjoy your life with whatever you choose to get into. But, there'll be plenty of ICE Motorcycle racing, for a long time, so you should be able to postpone your cross over to Tiddly Wink flipping, for some time.
Wish people would get out of fantasy land. Cool bike and cool technology sure, but we do not have the resources to power these things and pretty soon if we keep going down this path, trying to survive will be our only worry, not attending a SX.
Anyone see the short Instagram clip of Kenny talking about the Varg? He said all the bumps disappeared just like on a light 125.
The Varg and electric will catch on if only for performance. Who doesn't want an 80hp 125 where you never have to change a top end?
It’s only a matter of time, short time at that where the electric dirt bikes will be the same way.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/electric-vehicle-…
Same thing with Stark in my opinion. Looking at their Instagram they seem to be more focused on the "state of the art" factory and marketing videos around computer programs vs providing content on the actual bike.
Cool bike and all for additional options for consumers, I just don't want anyone, like the government, shoving this electric dream down our throats.
Pit Row
Nicholas Tesla and the future.
This is a great topic to research.
An open mind is always rewarded.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=nikola+tesla+free+energy&va=b&t=hc&ia=web
Did Anton Wass bang your girlfriend or are you afraid that you‘ll soon get passed a lot by eMXs?
However, all of you shitting on people that don’t want an EB because of the sounds and smells, well, isn’t that why people still ride two strokes? Heck take a look at the entries that vintage races are pulling in.
4 strokes surpassed two strokes in performance close to 20 years ago, yet on the local level 2 strokes still have a huge presence. Why? Maybe because people like that experience better and don’t care about the performance advantages of a new Factory Edition.
I think there’s a place for these and one day they’ll probably be better than ICE’s but dirt bike riders are stubborn…
Oddly enough Tesla is still around and still changing the world through EV.
Why else is every manufacturer; automotive, agriculture, semi’s, mining, motorsports, boats now building EV. These industries don’t make this type of investment without thorough business cases…
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