Your Moto Identity

zman721
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10/12/2022 4:21am
The guy on the clapped out looking 2 stroke is either going to be one of the fastest guys on the track or one of the slowest. There is no in between.
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10/12/2022 4:46am
Mid pack starts build character and Scott boots were the coolest
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TheRookie
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10/12/2022 5:19am
ML512 wrote:
I'll give it a go... - Seat bouncing is a real thing but not in the way Teefus was arguing it... - If a rhythm has...
I'll give it a go...


- Seat bouncing is a real thing but not in the way Teefus was arguing it...
- If a rhythm has a single, then table-top, then a single...and the table can be used as a on-off or a full landing, it can be considered a quad.
- Only people arguing what is and isn't a quad are the guys not even doing them.
- Two strokes, four strokes, electric, pedal power, etc are all fun. None suck, they all have their time..place and enjoyment factor.
- Wheelie boys are horrendous for our sport / industries reputation and look.
- More races for pros to race is a good thing. If they don't want to do all of them, then they can make that choice.
- Vice champion just means you were second place...just say you were second place. You're not a champion.
- Social media (IG, Twitter, and Facebook) comment sections for any sport, politics, or religion is just a waste of valuable time on this earth. Laughing
- Wheelie boys are horrendous for our sport / industries reputation and look.

^^^ THIS ^^^

It has given those who ride an awful reputation in my area. Don't see an end in sight for it either, at least not one that ends well for everyone else...

Baltimore sucks
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sandman768
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10/12/2022 7:05am
Overcoming your fears….

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HonDawg17
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10/12/2022 7:29am
Teejay wrote:
Just because you prefer another brand of motorcycle, it doesn’t mean all the others are shit and a waste of money.
I used to be very guilty of this. Then my moto buddy straightened me out when talking to a kid that wanted to get into motocross. Best reality check for perspective at that time.
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Falcon
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10/12/2022 8:47am
[YM] wrote:
I agree with almost everything you say but I can't get behind ignoring the fact that a Single- Table- Single has 4 options. Same as a...
I agree with almost everything you say but I can't get behind ignoring the fact that a Single- Table- Single has 4 options. Same as a Single- Single- Single- Single, same distance. Look at a track map and measure. Not someone having to draw multiple sketches on a napkin or something to prove their point.

What verbiage would you use to describe each option that this presents?

Step on- Step off. 1+1+1+1= 4. Period. Hill I'm willing to die on. Smile

More curious where you stand on Oxford Comma's... lol
Falcon wrote:
This is not a thread to argue, so I don't even want to start stating my points. We can just disagree about the quad. However, since...
This is not a thread to argue, so I don't even want to start stating my points. We can just disagree about the quad.

However, since both my parents were English teachers, and I take much of my instruction from them, I prefer the Oxford comma. It just makes sense to me.
For example, there is a YZ250, two RM85s, and a PW50 in my garage. Cool Wink
[YM] wrote:
Fair enough. I'd consider this a discussion. Sorry if you felt as if it were an argument. My question was to help me have a better...
Fair enough. I'd consider this a discussion. Sorry if you felt as if it were an argument. My question was to help me have a better understanding of your theory on the triple. I've read a few examples of why it's a quad. Those make sense. I haven't come across anything about a triple that has any logic behind it. You seem like a pretty logical guy and if you were able to convey why it's a triple I'd have no problem accepting that and changing my stance.

My neighbors couldn't believe that I would change the oil in our bikes without starting them first. That's probably my hottest take. Cold oil changes lol
No offense taken; I just originally posted for this thread not to be an argument thread, so I don't want to take it there myself! Laughing Cool


To understand my point on triples vs. quads, please check out the other "quad" threads. Basically, I'm of the opinion that there must be four total mounds of dirt for something to be called a quad.
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[YM]
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10/12/2022 9:03am
Falcon wrote:
This is not a thread to argue, so I don't even want to start stating my points. We can just disagree about the quad. However, since...
This is not a thread to argue, so I don't even want to start stating my points. We can just disagree about the quad.

However, since both my parents were English teachers, and I take much of my instruction from them, I prefer the Oxford comma. It just makes sense to me.
For example, there is a YZ250, two RM85s, and a PW50 in my garage. Cool Wink
[YM] wrote:
Fair enough. I'd consider this a discussion. Sorry if you felt as if it were an argument. My question was to help me have a better...
Fair enough. I'd consider this a discussion. Sorry if you felt as if it were an argument. My question was to help me have a better understanding of your theory on the triple. I've read a few examples of why it's a quad. Those make sense. I haven't come across anything about a triple that has any logic behind it. You seem like a pretty logical guy and if you were able to convey why it's a triple I'd have no problem accepting that and changing my stance.

My neighbors couldn't believe that I would change the oil in our bikes without starting them first. That's probably my hottest take. Cold oil changes lol
Falcon wrote:
No offense taken; I just originally posted for this thread not to be an argument thread, so I don't want to take it there myself! :laugh...
No offense taken; I just originally posted for this thread not to be an argument thread, so I don't want to take it there myself! Laughing Cool


To understand my point on triples vs. quads, please check out the other "quad" threads. Basically, I'm of the opinion that there must be four total mounds of dirt for something to be called a quad.
You posted a thread on Vital NOT to be an argument thread?? That's optimistic! lol
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TeamGreen
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10/12/2022 12:31pm
luke11 wrote:
I love to see any body riding regardless of gear, roached bike or whatever. I’m the first guy to go and talk to the newbies at...
I love to see any body riding regardless of gear, roached bike or whatever. I’m the first guy to go and talk to the newbies at the track with an 06 rmkxzf, howeverrr for me personally half the fun of riding is looking good. I enjoy making the bike look good and shopping for gear almost as much as riding, just is what it is.
What is it about the kid in the old Toyota with the 2002 CR250R and older than believable gear that makes me…us…so stoked?

Oh, yeah, that’s right! We realize he’s there for ALL the right reasons.
Grinning
As far as showing up at the local track and looking good? Well, for me?
I love showing up for an MX race on my CRF450X or FE350S…or, every now and then, my beautiful 2007 RM125..
All the while wearing whatever TLD stuff I wore on The Rip.

Yes, I’m an old guy! Grinning
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DerickYZ
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10/12/2022 12:36pm
- Doesn’t matter if you’re a A class rider or D class rider, be humble and enjoy the sport.

- A 125 2 stroke is the best bike ever made, period.

- Always willing to help the new riders at the track because I was a beginner before and no one would even spare a screwdriver to me and my dad
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braaap
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10/12/2022 1:06pm
I never met a motocross bike I didn’t like!
10/12/2022 1:17pm
Something that really bothers me about our sport is that it seems that the powers in charge desperately want us to be similar to car and street bike racing…imo those sports are as different to ours as football and basketball are. Our sport is an “extreme” or “action” sport. Much closer to skateboarding, snowboarding, bmx, surfing, and mountain biking. Much like those sports we can hop on our bikes and do it pretty much anywhere casually. Most of us do one of those aforementioned activities in our spare time as well.
Falcon
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10/12/2022 3:28pm
[YM] wrote:
Fair enough. I'd consider this a discussion. Sorry if you felt as if it were an argument. My question was to help me have a better...
Fair enough. I'd consider this a discussion. Sorry if you felt as if it were an argument. My question was to help me have a better understanding of your theory on the triple. I've read a few examples of why it's a quad. Those make sense. I haven't come across anything about a triple that has any logic behind it. You seem like a pretty logical guy and if you were able to convey why it's a triple I'd have no problem accepting that and changing my stance.

My neighbors couldn't believe that I would change the oil in our bikes without starting them first. That's probably my hottest take. Cold oil changes lol
Falcon wrote:
No offense taken; I just originally posted for this thread not to be an argument thread, so I don't want to take it there myself! :laugh...
No offense taken; I just originally posted for this thread not to be an argument thread, so I don't want to take it there myself! Laughing Cool


To understand my point on triples vs. quads, please check out the other "quad" threads. Basically, I'm of the opinion that there must be four total mounds of dirt for something to be called a quad.
[YM] wrote:
You posted a thread on Vital NOT to be an argument thread?? That's optimistic! lol
Hahaha, right? Laughing
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FreshTopEnd
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10/12/2022 9:26pm
Anywhere to ride is better than nowhere. Almost always.

Hills are better than flat, but sand or good soil can make up the difference.

Premier outdoor US motocross should run in the fall or spring (I know that it can't).

Motorcycles, motorcycle racing, watching motorcycle racing, bench racing, is supposed to be fun. Most of us don't have a lot at stake in this beyond not getting hurt.

There is nothing like the first bikes coming around the track at the beginning of morning practice on race day at a top level national or GP.



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Dirt.Squirt
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10/12/2022 10:27pm Edited Date/Time 10/12/2022 10:29pm
Mismatch gear is not okay
Yes it is.

People that poke fun at or shame others just because they don’t look the part is what’s not okay.

“Cool guy” mentality is not okay

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kNewc
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10/14/2022 1:55pm Edited Date/Time 10/14/2022 1:56pm
1. 4-Wheelers don't deserve space on a motocross track. Keep them in the woods or fields.
2. I do mind when it get's to a perfect degree of dryness and the track decides it's watering time
3. It's always a good time to water the track, even if I don't believe it is
4. Schools and videos will never replace seat time
5. Race gas is worth it
6. Good gear is worth it
7. Anyone at the track is treated like a good friend. Regardless of bike, gear, race, etc...


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10/14/2022 2:46pm
I will always die on the hill that the people you meet in motocross are the best in so many ways. I’ve met so many nice, and damn cool people because of this sport.
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Flatliner
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10/14/2022 4:28pm
kage173 wrote:
500s are of the devil We are in the golden age of moto Electric will elevate moto exponentially. Tables count as 2 Ryan Dungey is the...
500s are of the devil

We are in the golden age of moto

Electric will elevate moto exponentially.

Tables count as 2

Ryan Dungey is the most underrated rider ever

Mix and match your gear. Ride roached out bikes. Get on two wheels however you can. Moto is expensive. If the cool kids make fun of you, you can pit with me.

The people hating on wheelie boys are no different than the people shutting down public lands for the environment and shutting down tracks for being too loud. Live and let live.

Track owners catch way too much shit for the little $ they make

The 93-95 KX line are the best looking bikes ever and will never be matched.

HRC hasn't won a premier series championship in Jett Lawrence's lifetime and that is pathetic.








90's , early 2000's was the golden age. Its when it made the biggest jump in popularity, and more people rode, but not necessarily raced at the local level. Races were shown on ABC wide world of sports. MC-RC-Pastrana on leno.

Wheelie boys put lives at risk on the street who don't expect a pack of bikes or quads in an urban setting. Many of the bikes they ride are stolen.

Electric wont change anything, if it's not noise complaints it will be dust, already a huge divide between regular mountain bikes and electric.

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MotoxTodd
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10/14/2022 5:01pm
I was in the Lead……….tell the gate dropped
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10/14/2022 9:35pm Edited Date/Time 10/14/2022 9:40pm
I'm in my late 30s, the 1998 yz80 with NStyle graphics and seat cover was the coolest with a Bill's pipe....first and last bike I bought new working all year. I wish my dad had the foresight that I would put on 50lbs and grow 8 inches that summer. Sold for a 96 RM 125, got stolen 2 years later. Bought a 2000 RM 125, got flooded in a hurricane, put it outside to dry before tearing it down, stolen that night. Moved my focus to bmx street riding, much easier in an urban enviroment. Havent ridden a bike in 20 years or bought anything moto related. Religiously watch/follow the sport, dont know anyone personally who knows it's a sport....ooooooof long post.

P.S. also wore whatever gear was thrown in by the previous owner, had some sweet axo gear with alpine star tech 1s that got melted next to a campfire after a mudrace
Motoxdoc
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10/14/2022 10:29pm Edited Date/Time 10/15/2022 11:38am
-You don't quit racing MX because you get old....you get old because you quit racing MX.

-If you have taken a MX gate drop in 6 different decades (including rubberband, single forewords falling and individual backwards falling gates), you should have "Vital clip protection."

PS - I just saw the "PS" above and felt compelled to add…In my avitar pic I'm wearing Jeff Matiasevich's hand-me-down pants and gloves, a Premier Yamaha Jersey from my mini days in 1978, a friends 2 sizes too big AXO boots, a Honda line helmet that I won from one of the first contingency races that the manufacturers ever did, and I'm throwing it flat on a 1987 CR 250 which I holeshot Mammoth on, twice, in 1991......I guess another one of my identities would be, function before form. If it works - Run what you fuckin brung!
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10/15/2022 4:16am
-Mike Larocco would be a multi-time SX champion if 20-Minute mains were around during his career
Doubtful. I would venture to guess most main events in his time were 17-18 minutes. 2 or 3 more laps wouldn't have made a difference.
Wahtash
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10/15/2022 5:49am
I'll go as fast as I want to.
I will jump whatever and whenever I want to.
"Woods" riding is what I did when I was 12 and had nothing better to do.
Clean bikes are easier and more fun to ride.
Motoxdoc
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10/15/2022 8:48am
-Mike Larocco would be a multi-time SX champion if 20-Minute mains were around during his career
That would be Larocco’s identity, not yours.
Flatliner
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10/15/2022 10:33am
Occasionally I still wear baggies when trail riding.
Whoops are perfectly safe on a motocross track if they are built properly, big jumps are more dangerous.
If your fast in sand, you can ride any terrain.
The 98' CR250 had an excellent motor, just vibrated too much.
luke11
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10/15/2022 10:52am
luke11 wrote:
I love to see any body riding regardless of gear, roached bike or whatever. I’m the first guy to go and talk to the newbies at...
I love to see any body riding regardless of gear, roached bike or whatever. I’m the first guy to go and talk to the newbies at the track with an 06 rmkxzf, howeverrr for me personally half the fun of riding is looking good. I enjoy making the bike look good and shopping for gear almost as much as riding, just is what it is.
TeamGreen wrote:
What is it about the kid in the old Toyota with the 2002 CR250R and older than believable gear that makes me…us…so stoked? Oh, yeah, that’s...
What is it about the kid in the old Toyota with the 2002 CR250R and older than believable gear that makes me…us…so stoked?

Oh, yeah, that’s right! We realize he’s there for ALL the right reasons.
Grinning
As far as showing up at the local track and looking good? Well, for me?
I love showing up for an MX race on my CRF450X or FE350S…or, every now and then, my beautiful 2007 RM125..
All the while wearing whatever TLD stuff I wore on The Rip.

Yes, I’m an old guy! Grinning
Id love to see you turn up at the track too. But there is no ‘right’ reason for being at the track. It’s just important that people are at the track. The sport lives off the posing vet guy with the 20k bike and 5 sets of gear who does one session on the track and 4 sessions chatting shit.
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10/15/2022 11:35am
Kawboy14! wrote:
Your opinion matters to you and my opinion matters to me …..but both are correct so why argue over it?
Well, being correct and thinking you're correct is not always the same right?
That's why we converse over it.
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10/15/2022 6:38pm Edited Date/Time 10/15/2022 8:34pm

What ever it is...+ 50 84 CR500.
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10/16/2022 7:20am
- 450 four-strokes are way too powerful.

- Designing electric bikes to beat 450s is a huge mistake.

- If fighting in professional racing was allowed, Barcia would have cleaned up his act about a decade ago.
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davis224
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10/16/2022 7:45am
10000hrs wrote:
Jumps are ranked based on how many faces you can case it on: no faces ... its a single one face ...its a double two faces...
Jumps are ranked based on how many faces you can case it on:

no faces ... its a single
one face ...its a double
two faces ... its a triple
three faces ... its a quad

a table top is a single

sinlge-table-single is a triple

etc
You can come up short to the face of the table and come up short of the downside.
PFitzG38
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10/17/2022 9:25pm
Motoxdoc wrote:
-You don't quit racing MX because you get old....you get old because you quit racing MX. -If you have taken a MX gate drop in 6...
-You don't quit racing MX because you get old....you get old because you quit racing MX.

-If you have taken a MX gate drop in 6 different decades (including rubberband, single forewords falling and individual backwards falling gates), you should have "Vital clip protection."

PS - I just saw the "PS" above and felt compelled to add…In my avitar pic I'm wearing Jeff Matiasevich's hand-me-down pants and gloves, a Premier Yamaha Jersey from my mini days in 1978, a friends 2 sizes too big AXO boots, a Honda line helmet that I won from one of the first contingency races that the manufacturers ever did, and I'm throwing it flat on a 1987 CR 250 which I holeshot Mammoth on, twice, in 1991......I guess another one of my identities would be, function before form. If it works - Run what you fuckin brung!
hell yeah!! Thats what I'm talking about boomer

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